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    JWebStuff
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    Whew! Thanks for the info! I don't believe it's been running at startup but,
    regardless, there will be an uninstall coming up next.
    Thanks again,
    Janice


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    news:i56vim$gkh$1@DailyPlanet.news.netobjects.com. ..
    > In news:i56j0v$9rl$1@DailyPlanet.news.netobjects.com,
    > JWebStuff <JWebStuff@@geeeeeeeeeemail.com> typed:
    >> ACK!! With Xampp.. "You're wide open to the outside unless
    >> you mod the defaults." I downloaded and installed this
    >> months ago when I had a crazy thought that I could do local
    >> testing on some such thing but never really got very far. I
    >> haven't paid a bit of attention to it since. In fact, I
    >> don't even remember how to access it any longer. Would you
    >> mind elaborating on what settings I should have changed to
    >> protect my security? Sigh, I wish this sort of thing came
    >> with warning labels for those of us who dabble in
    >> pretending we know what we're doing. Janice

    >
    > Hi Janice,
    >
    > I know the feeling well! Been there, done that! Etceterra, etceterrra!
    >
    > If you don't plan to use it, I'd just uninstall it. It's out of date now
    > anyway so even if you did decide to use it, you'd want the latest &
    > greatest anyway. That way you'll get all the instructons in sequence,
    > etc.. They now mention the defaults and how to close things up.
    >
    > If you aren't loading it or running it as a service, you're OK too. In
    > C:\XAMPP, there is a file called XAMPP_Stop.exe: Just run that and it'll
    > stop it from running if it is running.
    >
    > Open the control panel and make sure it's not set to run as a service -
    > and if it is, turn that off. That way it won't start when your computer
    > starts.
    > Oh: The control panel can be started from the same directory: It's
    > called XAMPP-control.exe. Run it, and if there's a tick anywhere in any of
    > the possible services, just remove them.
    > Uninstall is in the same directory, too. Don't recall whether it's in
    > add/remove or not.
    > Anyway, like I said, I'd recommend just uninstalling it. You'll want
    > the latest rev anyway if you decide you want to use it and the
    > documentatiion has improved with this latest rev.
    >
    > HTH,
    >
    > Twayne`
    >
    >
    > ...
    >
    >




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    Quote Originally Posted by JWebStuff View Post
    ACK!! With Xampp.. "You're wide open to the outside unless you mod the
    defaults." I downloaded and installed this months ago when I had a crazy
    thought that I could do local testing on some such thing but never really
    got very far. I haven't paid a bit of attention to it since. In fact, I
    don't even remember how to access it any longer. Would you mind elaborating
    on what settings I should have changed to protect my security? Sigh, I wish
    this sort of thing came with warning labels for those of us who dabble in
    pretending we know what we're doing.
    Janice
    Janice,

    I'm sure Twayne's advice is good -- he's a smart guy.

    As an alternative, I use MoWes Portable. It's a complete, self-installing, self-contained WAMP system.

    I was always intimidated by trying to set up and configure Apache, then SQL, etc, and messing up my Windows System in the process.

    What I did with MoWes was install it on a USB key, which can then run as a mini (rea-a-a-lly mini) server. When I want to use it, I plug in the USB key, launch the program on the key, then publish my site to the /www/ folder on the key.

    I don't use it as much as I probably should. I have way too many miscellaneous 'test' folders on my web server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayC View Post
    As an alternative, I use MoWes Portable. It's a complete, self-installing, self-contained WAMP system.
    Nice! Where were you when I uninstalled WAMP in favour of XAMPP? I expect to see this in YOUR list of tools!!
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    I think a lot of people will get a great deal of value from this thread, well the tools part anyway. Maybe a MOD could lift the tools related posts and dump them into CHIT-CHAT as a new thread - is that possible?

    @RayC :
    CoreDraw6...yeah sounds silly but I've used CorelDraw since version 1 and by the time I got to version 9 I decided v6 did everything I wanted. I don't use any of the rest of the suite now, not even installed, and I decided to uninstall Adobe Illustrator in favour of CDv6. If it aint broke don't upgrade it I say!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adendum View Post
    I think a lot of people will get a great deal of value from this thread, well the tools part anyway. Maybe a MOD could lift the tools related posts and dump them into CHIT-CHAT as a new thread - is that possible?
    Yes, it is posable: http://forums.netobjects.com/showthr...ols-people-use

    Quote Originally Posted by Adendum View Post
    CoreDraw6...yeah sounds silly but I've used CorelDraw since version 1 and by the time I got to version 9 I decided v6 did everything I wanted. I don't use any of the rest of the suite now, not even installed, and I decided to uninstall Adobe Illustrator in favour of CDv6. If it aint broke don't upgrade it I say!
    My first look at Corel was this newest release CorelDRAW Graphic Suite X5 I was using Photoshop CS5 until I got the Corel product
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    Mike,

    Thanks for the move...you clever man you! Twayne will be gutted!!!

    OK, I'll take a look at CorelDRAW Graphic Suite X5...but I'm amazed you walked away from CS5.
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    Well it never even occured to me that installing Apache could mess up my
    Windows system. I like your much safer option.
    Thanks!
    Janice

    "RayC" <RayC.4gcuez@no-mx.forums.netobjects.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > JWebStuff wrote:
    >> ACK!! With Xampp.. "You're wide open to the outside unless you mod the
    >> defaults." I downloaded and installed this months ago when I had a
    >> crazy
    >> thought that I could do local testing on some such thing but never
    >> really
    >> got very far. I haven't paid a bit of attention to it since. In fact,
    >> I
    >> don't even remember how to access it any longer. Would you mind
    >> elaborating
    >> on what settings I should have changed to protect my security? Sigh, I
    >> wish
    >> this sort of thing came with warning labels for those of us who dabble
    >> in
    >> pretending we know what we're doing.
    >> Janice
    >>

    >
    > Janice,
    >
    > I'm sure Twayne's advice is good -- he's a smart guy.
    >
    > As an alternative, I use 'MoWes Portable'
    > (http://www.chsoftware.net/en/mowes/m...able/mowes.htm). It's a
    > complete, self-installing, self-contained WAMP system.
    >
    > I was always intimidated by trying to set up and configure Apache, then
    > SQL, etc, and messing up my Windows System in the process.
    >
    > What I did with MoWes was install it on a USB key, which can then run
    > as a mini (rea-a-a-lly mini) server. When I want to use it, I plug in
    > the USB key, launch the program on the key, then publish my site to the
    > /www/ folder on the key.
    >
    > I don't use it as much as I probably should. I have way too many
    > miscellaneous 'test' folders on my web server.
    >
    >
    >
    > Ray Cambpell
    > Sounds In Sync
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    Ooops,

    Allison, the MODS very kindly moved the 'tool set' part of this thread into it's own thread in the Chit-Chat forum. I'm sure they will move your post too.
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    This is probably the most concise information about Netobjects, ...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetObjects_Fusion

    Also, it's been updated more recently than the Netobjects website.

    Cheers,

    Merle

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    > Another fabulous application languishes. Who even owns it now? Web.com
    > says nothing about it on their web site.
    >
    > While it is still a great program, it was last updated in 2008 which is
    > eons ago in software age. There is virtually no support provided, and
    > there's been absolutely no information of any new development.
    >
    > What a shame!
    >
    > Are there any good alternatives out there?
    >
    > Marty




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    Quote Originally Posted by Allison Moore View Post
    > ... I would much
    > prefer to have NOF12 come as a basic WYSIWYG html generator and
    > EVERYTHING else to be installed as options - no poor image editing, none
    > of those totally useless flash components, no templates and an option to
    > install on demand BY SITE things like NOF Email component, the security
    > component...all of them. And when they introduce new features
    > (components) that they are all installable on demand (by site).


    Sounds good to me.

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