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    Default Re: Feedback form won't appear, either in HTML or PHP


    "gotFusion" <gotFusion.4o2qqy@no-mx.forums.netobjects.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > Tinkerer wrote:
    >>
    >> Here goes then, if anyone has
    >> any further advice (like changing the order of fields in the resulting
    >> email
    >> or making it more user friendly) I would welcome it.
    >>
    >> In Action select Form Handler (PHP) or whatever your hosting site
    >> supports.
    >>
    >> Set SMTP server with IP address of your web hosting company's outgoing
    >> email
    >> server (use Ping to get it or ask the company).
    >>
    >> --
    >> Tinkerer

    >
    > If I understand you correctly, you are using your host's form
    > processing script or you are using a 3rd party processing script.
    >
    > If you are using the script that is on your host server you cannot make
    > any changes to it.
    >
    > If you are using a 3rd party script and you are VERY good in the
    > programing language that the script was written in you can edit the
    > script to customize it for your form. Just remember that if you use
    > multiple forms, you are using the 1 script to process them all and you
    > may get "odd" results if the 2 forms are not very close in content.
    >
    > If your host supports the ColdFusion dynamic language you can easily
    > write your own form and processing in less time that it took me to
    > answer this forum post. AND since you are writing it and it is specific
    > to a single form you can customize it to your heart's content.
    >
    > If you want to take a look at a custom formated form email you can run
    > through my CF form processing example that I wrote 8 years ago. The page
    > will ask you to log in but it is available to anyone with a free level
    > membership at gotFusion. I had to set the page to log in as an old
    > friend on a DW group got "spammed" from the form. Turns out it was a
    > mutual friend who was sending form results to his email address
    > (backtracked the IP address to the prankster). The form and processing
    > are hijack proof so I knew it had to be someone running through the form
    > and sending the results to my friend. Don't worry about signing up for a
    > free membership. I have never contacted any one of the 13k + registered
    > users, never used direct mail, and don't plan on it
    >
    > CF form to email processing example is here:
    > http://www.gotfusion.com/tutstd/cfform/
    >
    > It will process your input and send you a formated email so you can see
    > how flexable/customizable ColdFusion form to email processing can be. It
    > will surprise you.


    Thanks for that Mike. I will certainly have a look at the CF form example.
    I am puzzled that you say I must be using the hosts form facility. They do
    have one and I tried it some weeks ago but it involves pasting some HTML
    into the form created with NOF and I could not get it to work so dumped the
    lot, reinstalled my test web site into NOF10 from a template and used the
    method described above. I also cleared out the test web site before
    uploading so none of the previous upload would have been left. As far as I
    can see it was all done using facilities available in NOF10. I certainly
    did not conciously add any of their code unless, by pure coincidence, the
    NOF10 code is compatible. If that is the case then I must apologise for
    misleading people, although if other hosts provide the same facility, it
    could still be useful. Here is the hosts code and instructions, you may be
    able to tell if it is the same as NOF10 produces.

    Copy the following HTML into your document, and add your own textfields
    between the <form> & </form> tag:

    <form method='post' action='http://website-name.org.uk/cgi-bin/FormMail.pl'>
    <input type='hidden' name='recipient' value='info@website-name.org.uk'>
    <input type='hidden' name='subject' value='Form Input'>
    <input type='hidden' name='redirect'
    value='http://website-name.org.uk/private/members'>
    <input type='text' name='name' ><br>
    <input type='text' name='email' ><br>
    <textarea cols='20' rows='10' name='message' ></textarea><br>
    <input type='submit' name='submit' value='Send' >
    </form

    The resulting email from the method I described originally simply contains a
    polite "Dear Sir, Here is your data" at the top and a sign off at the
    bottom. In between, the contents of the input fields are simply listed
    straight down with a blank line for any that were empty. I shall be
    interested to hear what you find.
    --
    Tinkerer



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinkerer View Post
    "gotFusion" <gotFusion.4o2qqy@no-mx.forums.netobjects.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > If I understand you correctly, you are using your host's form
    > processing script or you are using a 3rd party processing script.
    >



    I am puzzled that you say I must be using the hosts form facility.
    Actually I said either hosts script or a 3rd party script

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinkerer View Post
    Here is the hosts code and instructions, you may be
    able to tell if it is the same as NOF10 produces.

    Copy the following HTML into your document, and add your own textfields
    between the <form> & </form> tag:

    <form method='post' action='http://website-name.org.uk/cgi-bin/FormMail.pl'>
    <input type='hidden' name='recipient' value='info@website-name.org.uk'>
    <input type='hidden' name='subject' value='Form Input'>
    <input type='hidden' name='redirect'
    value='http://website-name.org.uk/private/members'>
    <input type='text' name='name' ><br>
    <input type='text' name='email' ><br>
    <textarea cols='20' rows='10' name='message' ></textarea><br>
    <input type='submit' name='submit' value='Send' >
    </form

    The resulting email from the method I described originally simply contains a
    polite "Dear Sir, Here is your data" at the top and a sign off at the
    bottom. In between, the contents of the input fields are simply listed
    straight down with a blank line for any that were empty. I shall be
    interested to hear what you find.
    --
    Tinkerer
    The code they are telling you to insert reveals your email address to spambots by using a hidden field for it. I would advise you to NOT use their form processing if you do not want to reveal your email address to the world. Hidden fields mean that they do not display on the web page. They are still within the html code and harvestable by spam bots. Not good.

    The Fusion formshandler component writes all of this within the script and it is hidden because the script cannot be read, only executed.

    Using ColdFusion everything is also hidden as it is all within the ColdFusion tags that are executed.
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    Default Re: Feedback form won't appear, either in HTML or PHP


    "gotFusion" <gotFusion.4o4m3n@no-mx.forums.netobjects.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > Tinkerer wrote:
    >> "gotFusion" <gotFusion.4o2qqy@no-mx.forums.netobjects.com> wrote in
    >> message
    >> news:gotFusion.4o2qqy@no-mx.forums.netobjects.com......
    >>
    >> >
    >> > If I understand you correctly, you are using your host's form
    >> > processing script or you are using a 3rd party processing script.
    >> >

    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> I am puzzled that you say I must be using the hosts form facility.
    >>

    >
    > Actually I said *either* hosts script *or* a 3rd party script
    >
    > Tinkerer wrote:
    >> Here is the hosts code and instructions, you may be
    >> able to tell if it is the same as NOF10 produces.
    >>
    >> Copy the following HTML into your document, and add your own textfields
    >> between the <form> & </form> tag:
    >>
    >> <form method='post'
    >> action='http://website-name.org.uk/cgi-bin/FormMail.pl'>
    >> <input type='hidden' name='recipient' value='info@website-name.org.uk'>
    >> <input type='hidden' name='subject' value='Form Input'>
    >> <input type='hidden' name='redirect'
    >> value='http://website-name.org.uk/private/members'>
    >> <input type='text' name='name' ><br>
    >> <input type='text' name='email' ><br>
    >> <textarea cols='20' rows='10' name='message' ></textarea><br>
    >> <input type='submit' name='submit' value='Send' >
    >> </form
    >>
    >> The resulting email from the method I described originally simply
    >> contains a
    >> polite "Dear Sir, Here is your data" at the top and a sign off at the
    >> bottom. In between, the contents of the input fields are simply listed
    >> straight down with a blank line for any that were empty. I shall be
    >> interested to hear what you find.
    >> --
    >> Tinkerer

    >
    > The code they are telling you to insert reveals your email address to
    > spambots by using a hidden field for it. I would advise you to NOT use
    > their form processing if you do not want to reveal your email address to
    > the world. Hidden fields mean that they do not display on the web page.
    > They are still within the html code and harvestable by spam bots. Not
    > good.
    >
    > The Fusion formshandler component writes all of this within the script
    > and it is hidden because the script cannot be read, only executed.
    >
    > Using ColdFusion everything is also hidden as it is all within the
    > ColdFusion tags that are executed.


    I think that the NOF10 code must activate the hosts form mailer but is not
    the same as the code generated by the host's site when using their wizard.
    I have looked at the source code from the browser (using view/source as per
    your tutorial http://www.gotfusion.com/tutorials/tut.cfm?itemID=4047
    in the thread "Hidden Email Links to Avoid Spam") and there is no email
    address visible. As I said before, the test version using the hosts code
    was removed from both the NOF10 development site and the host site. Only
    the later version using purely the NOF10 methods I originally detailed was
    uploaded. I think, by pure fluke, it "fits" the host form mailer system
    and works whilst apparently obscuring the email address. I seem to have
    struck lucky. As I said earlier, my apologies for misleading anybody, but
    if their host has a form mailer facility like mine (www.one.com) then this
    method could well work for them as it has for me.
    --
    Tinkerer


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    As the originator of this thread (my first!) I'm both surprised and gratified at the depth of interest created and the solutions it has produced. For the record, I've gone the 123 route and it's working.

    I'm hooked on this message board.

    Derek.

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    Default Re: Feedback form won't appear, either in HTML or PHP


    "Derek-F" <Derek-F.4o68gq@no-mx.forums.netobjects.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > As the originator of this thread (my first!) I'm both surprised and
    > gratified at the depth of interest created and the solutions it has
    > produced. For the record, I've gone the 123 route and it's working.
    >
    > I'm hooked on this message board.
    >



    I recommend that you also get hooked on Mike Turtle's Gotfusion tutorials.
    I have found them indispensable.
    http://www.gotfusion.com/menu/tuts_by_topic.cfm
    --
    Tinkerer



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    Hi Tinkerer, I am so glad I read below this thread and saw your link I can't THANK YOU ENOUGH!!! I didn't know it was that so easy. Thanks again, Ten

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    Default Feedback Form, Contact Us PHP Web Form easy

    I forgot to put the link where I saw your tutorial about webform. Thanks again Tinker

    http://forums.netobjects.com/showthr...t=contact+form

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