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    Default Accessing sites

    Just installed Vs 11 on new laptop, restored sites from backup. When I try and access them it says "this file was created by a later version and cannot be opened.

    I know these were created with Vs11, and yes, I have installed all the upgrades.

    Any ideas???

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    Ian
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    Default Re: Accessing sites

    That normally happens when you try and open the .nod file. What happens when
    you try to open one of the template files you exported them as for backup
    and transfer to your new machine? The templates should work cross version?

    Ian

    "Ozkay" <Ozkay.4qqcg6@no-mx.forums.netobjects.com> wrote in message
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    > Just installed Vs 11 on new laptop, restored sites from backup. When I
    > try and access them it says "this file was created by a later version
    > and cannot be opened.
    >
    > I know these were created with Vs11, and yes, I have installed all the
    > upgrades.
    >
    > Any ideas???
    >
    >



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    Default No template available

    I use backup software/tape library for backup and don't have template files. eek

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    Well, you should start to make some.
    A template is the only way to transfer a site from one computer to another.
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  5. #5
    Ian
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    Oh! Dear.

    Like Mia says "the only safe way".

    When NOF creates it's nod files it uses explicit addressing for the location
    of any asset source (for example). A template saves the assets in the
    template and puts them where it needs them directly into its own assets fold
    and uses them from there.

    If you use a backup tape and do a file restore instead of a full system
    restore then you must recreate the exact file structure on the system that
    was there when you made the backup.

    So if you inserted a picture into a project from d:/mypictures/project
    1/pictures/image.jpg then you have to restore that image to that exact path
    on the system with a restore, you cant put it back to d:/2nd
    attempt/mypictures/project 1/pictures/image.jpg because NOF isn't going to
    look for it there it's going to try to find it in the original location and
    come up with a missing asset.

    This is just one of the problems of not working from a template as backup.
    That's one of the main reasons the templates are there.

    There's an old (written for V9 but still very valid) discussion I did years
    ago here http://www.1ahost.co.uk/html/backups.html I know it won't help you
    much now. I think you may have to contact NOF or somebody with a much better
    knowledge of the internals of the nod file for help or rebuild the site from
    the copy on the web.

    Sorry

    Ian


    "mia" <mia.4qrkvu@no-mx.forums.netobjects.com> wrote in message
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    > Well, you should start to make some.
    > A template is the only way to transfer a site from one computer to
    > another.
    >
    >
    >
    > mia - Global Moderator im deutschen NOF-Forum
    > http://www.nof-forum.de
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    Thanks for your help Ian.

    Where I can find info about restoring a site from an uploaded site?

    Cheers Kay

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    Ian
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    Unfortunately there is no quick and easy method for this.

    You can use various bits of software to download a site from the web -
    something like HTAccess, however, if it's your site and you have FTP access
    then I would recommend that you copy the entire site from the server to your
    local machine. This will give you all original components for the site.

    You could then fire up NOF and create a basic structure for the site without
    content. Create a working page with zero margins and try importing each
    locally stored page, one at a time, into that page (function of NOF - import
    html page), get the format/layout right and then copy it to the layout area
    of the correct page in your blank site. This way you won't have to worry
    about Master borders and messing them up all the time you'll just be working
    on the actual content for each page. Delete the content from the zeromargin
    page and move onto the next page on the local machine that you want to
    recreate and repeat the process.

    You'll have to do some reformatting of content, I'm sure, but it's the best
    way. Hope you don't have too many pages.

    One other thing I would suggest is that you start off creating your site in
    NOF as Site-name-001 and make a start. When you have got so far do a save as
    Site-name-002 and continue working. Then a bit later save as Site-name-003
    and so on. This way, if you really mess something up you have got a recent
    backup copy to go back to and start again from there. You don't lose
    everything. This is also worth doing (or create a template of an unchanged
    site) before making any major changes/updates to any site.

    Hope this helps a bit.

    Best of luck with your recreation,

    Ian



    "Ozkay" <Ozkay.4qvhc9@no-mx.forums.netobjects.com> wrote in message
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    > Thanks for your help Ian.
    >
    > Where I can find info about restoring a site from an uploaded site?
    >
    > Cheers Kay
    >
    >



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    Twayne
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    In news:Ozkay.4qvhc9@no-mx.forums.netobjects.com,
    Ozkay <Ozkay.4qvhc9@no-mx.forums.netobjects.com> typed:
    > Thanks for your help Ian.
    >
    > Where I can find info about restoring a site from an
    > uploaded site?
    >
    > Cheers Kay


    This is about the only place I've seen info for NOF like that.
    I done it by using FileZilla to download the site & structure to disk, and
    then NOF's 'Open from Existing Site' - you point it at the index, default,
    whatever the Home Page is called file you just downloaded.
    IIRC Master Borders will be borked, but everything else is OK that way.
    Then you have the web site plus the NOF read of the site on the hard
    drive to compare to be sure things are right.
    Once you have it setup, then delete the site from the web and rePublish.

    Seems like I might have spent a total of abour 1 1/2 hours on the
    recreation. Worked out well. Don't forget NOF has a global find/replace for
    things that need to be changed in the content.

    HTH,

    Twayne`



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