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    Default [Bug] Site Structure View — Required Resource Not Available

    When switching to site structure view on my very large site (3,880 pages), I see an error message "Required resource not available). The page icons are drawn, but the page numbers are blank.

    If I switch to outline view, there is no problem.

    If I try to access the Zoom icon to zoom out while in structure view, the program crashes.
    Last edited by Bhikkhu Pesala; 09-21-2012 at 11:13 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhikkhu Pesala View Post
    When switching to site structure view on my very large site (3,880 pages), I see an error message "Required resource not available). The page icons are drawn, but the page numbers are blank.

    If I switch to outline view, there is no problem.

    If I try to access the Zoom icon to zoom out while in structure view, the program crashes.
    Hi Bhikkhu,

    Wow, that is an impressive number of pages!

    Optimization steps are below. I have a few questions before we get to that though:

    1. Can you trim this site at all? Are there old pages that can be archived/removed?
    2. Are you using many catalogs or photo galleries? If so, do you have an approximate number?

    Please follow these steps exactly:

    Save a backup copy and re-optimize your existing site:
    Open your site in NetObjects Fusion.
    Save a back-up copy of your existing site (File > Save site as).
    From the Tools menu, choose Re-Optimize.
    From the File menu, choose Save to ensure that the re-optimized site is saved.

    We can create a template to centralize any assets used for the site. Although these steps are optional, I would suggest following them (remember, your original site files are still there, this should be a copy we're working with).

    Export your site as a Template:
    Switch to the Assets view to display all of the sites file assets.
    From the Assets menu, select Verify All File Assets.
    Remove unused file assets from your site, from the Assets menu select Delete All Unused File Assets. (This is recommended for optimum performance.)
    Switch to the Site view to show the site structure.
    From the File menu, choose Export as Template > Entire Site.
    In the dialog that appears, navigate to your Templates folder or any folder that you would like to use and save your template file.

    Import your template back into Fusion:
    From the File menu, select New Site > From Template.
    In the dialog that appears, navigate to the folder where you saved your exported template.
    Click on the template that you wish to import and choose a name for your imported site.

    Please check your pm's, I have sent one to you for something unrelated to this.
    Adam
    NetObjects Technical Support

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    Default Re: [Bug] Site Structure View =?windows-1252?Q?=97_Required_?==?windows-1252?Q?Resource_Not_Available?=

    On 9/21/2012 7:09 AM, Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
    > When switching to site structure view on my very large site (3,870
    > pages), I see an error message "Required resource not available). The
    > page icons are drawn, but the page numbers are blank.
    >
    > If I switch to outline view, there is no problem.
    >
    > If I try to access the Zoom icon to zoom out while in structure view,
    > the program crashes.
    >
    >
    >
    > AMD 64 3500 • 1 Gbyte RAM • onboard GeForce graphics Windows XP Home SP3
    >
    > 'NetObjects Fusion Web Site' (http://www.aimwell.org/index.html)
    >


    Greetings...
    Long time, no see, Bhikkhu Pesala...

    One would be VERY well advised to trim down that huge site, especially
    if the page count you mentioned is actual active pages, not inclusive of
    data-based pages.

    If not, that NOF site will most certainly self-destruct, and likely
    "ruin" the .nod backup's as well.

    Sectioning the site off into multiple .nod's can be hugely helpful.

    Joe

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    The DPPN site is very big, but its mostly only text, and many of the pages are very small. I have been working on it for several months using NetObjects Fusion Essentials without this problem. The size on disk is about 77 Mbytes.

    It was only when I added one more child page to this page that I first noticed the problem in NetObjects Fusion XII.

    Splitting the site is not something I want to do — it would make it harder to create links between pages.

    I managed to save it as a template, and created a new site from that. The same problem persists in Site Structure view.
    Last edited by Bhikkhu Pesala; 09-21-2012 at 05:34 PM.
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    Working on such large sites is risky — I had to back-track to a backup copy recently — but the downsides of splitting the site are enormous. I worked on the site at more or less its current size for months without any issues in NetObjects Fusion Essentials, and it still seems to be stable enough.

    Even after the error dialogue, I found that I could continue and switch to outline view. If I collapse all but one of the tree branches, and switch back to the one of interest, I can then move pages after dismissing the error dialogue. This is not ideal, but it does work, and lets me add new pages.

    There are now 3,885 pages. I hope I can finish and publish the project before it suffers a terminal failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhikkhu Pesala View Post
    The DPPN site is very big, but its mostly only text, and many of the pages are very small. I have been working on it for several months using NetObjects Fusion Essentials without this problem. The size on disk is about 77 Mbytes.

    It was only when I added one more child page to this page that I first noticed the problem in NetObjects Fusion XII.

    Splitting the site is not something I want to do — it would make it harder to create links between pages.

    I managed to save it as a template, and created a new site from that. The same problem persists in Site Structure view.
    Hi Bhikkhu,

    I've tried some tricks without success, the site has been passed on the our development team. They have asked if you have a copy of the site in Essentials, prior to it being moved over to XII? If so, can you send that one to me as well?
    Adam
    NetObjects Technical Support

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    Yes, I still have a copy of the previous version that works fine in Site Structure view in Essentials.

    I have created a template as instructed in your earlier post and have sent you a PM with a link to it.

    If I open the site in NetObjects Fusion XII and try to use Site Structure view, I get the same problem as before.
    Last edited by Bhikkhu Pesala; 09-28-2012 at 06:25 PM.
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    As requested, I sent a link to the NOF Essentials version of the site a week ago, but I haven't received any reply yet. Did you get the file yet?
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    Joe Rotello
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    Default Re: [Bug] Site Structure View =?windows-1252?Q?=97_Required_?==?windows-1252?Q?Resource_Not_Available?=

    On 10/8/2012 4:09 AM, Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
    > As requested, I sent a link to the NOF Essentials version of the site a
    > week ago, but I haven't received any reply yet. Did you get the file
    > yet?
    >
    >
    >
    > AMD 64 3500 • 1 Gbyte RAM • onboard GeForce graphics Windows XP Home SP3
    >
    > 'My Web Site' (http://www.aimwell.org/index.html) • 'A Brief NetObjects
    > Fusion XII Review' (http://www.softerviews.org/NOF%20XII.html)
    >

    Bhikkhu Pesala, I do note that you are using an XP system apparantly
    running only 1GB RAM memory.

    Fair warning from many an XP and now Win 7 user...1GB RAM is not
    anywhere near enough RAM for "power software" such as you are running.
    That includes any MS Office, NOF 12, and any other graphics or data
    intensive applications.

    You WILL endure NOF crashes, OS crashes, massive speed slow-downs,
    wildly excessive hard drive activity, etc. with only 1GB RAM present.

    XP was and still is a very flaky, unstable system with only 1GB RAM
    hosting both it and the applications.

    Only recommendation is to try to raise system RAM to at least 2GB, and
    to 4GB if possible.

    Just a word to the wise, but based on many years running both our now
    older systems and being admin to many others when we used XP and
    especially when using XP with NOF 9, 10, 11, and now NOF 12 being seen
    by our users still running XP.

    Regardless of your history and expectations, XP + 1GB RAM + NOF anything
    + other apps that you ARE running = a very data and work dangerous
    situation.

    Joe



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    To be frank, that's a load of FUD.

    NOF runs quite happily in 1 Gbytes with very few crashes and if it does stop responding and I have to terminate it, it always recovers without signficant loss of changes. It does sometimes crash if I do a Find and Replace of the entire site a few times.

    Current memory use with my 3,884 page site is 63 Mbytes with 50 Mbytes VM used.

    I wouldn't touch MS Office if someone donated me a free copy. I frequently run four or five applications at the same time, and rarely experience slow-downs. Heavy use of Opera is the most likely culprit. I can open both of my big sites in two copies of NOF without problems.
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