Image Display Issues in Internet Explorer

[Joe Rotello]

On 2/14/2013 12:50 PM, brownmil29 wrote:
> Greetings All,
>
> I apologize if this is a repeat question, however, I have been away
> from things from awhile and times have changed. I was developing in
> NetObjects v10 and have since updated to v12.
>
> I have started developing my new site and since I use Chrome as my
> default I checked the site as I moved forward and all was fine. As I
> was closing in on finishing the initial draft of the site, I started
> testing in all browsers as would be prudent. To my horror, all of the
> images showed the RED X in Internet Explorer V8. The pages showed
> perfectly in all other browsers, Chrome and Firefox.
>
> I have polled my test market and the larger percentage will be viewing
> the site in IE so thus I must solve this problem.
>
> I have cleared the IE history, cache, etc to no avail.
>
> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. I am hoping to launch the
> new website at the beginning of next week.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Keith
>
>
Advise ALL users, designers, etc. to get rid of IE 8, and especially on
later versions of Windows, upgrade to IE 9, and soon, IE10 for Windows 7.

It's been known for a few years now that IE8 is a defective browser, and
even Microsoft pleads with users and techs of all levels to rid
themselves of it, and upgrade at least to IE9.

Notice in all these replies the very low percentages of user
satisfaction and performance with IE8 ?? And the fact that very few if
anyone seems to be having any troubles with NOF 12 using IE 9 ?

There's a good reason for it.

Joe

[franko]

Oh dear, don't tell me you didn't resize them and optimise them for the web? If you had, in whatever program, the colour space would have been changed to sRGB.

[RayC]

Advise ALL users, designers, etc. to get rid of IE 8, and especially on
later versions of Windows, upgrade to IE 9, and soon, IE10 for Windows 7.

It's been known for a few years now that IE8 is a defective browser, and
even Microsoft pleads with users and techs of all levels to rid
themselves of it, and upgrade at least to IE9.

Well, Joe, as web designers it's a little self-defeating to take a stance like that.

Last I checked, IE7 (yes, "7") and IE8 had about 25% of the browser market in usage stats. That's a big chunk of the pie. A great many of those would be corporate users since a lot of corporations still use Windows XP and Windows 2000. So if corporate users are anywhere in your target audience, you'd best be compatible with IE8, at least.

And as web designers, we do our clients a disservice if we exclude 25% of the population based on our own personal bias. This is also why I shy away from HTML5 and CSS3. Sure, it's cool, and I'd love to take advantage, but until the incompatible browser usage is in the single digits, I can't recommend it to my clients.

And I thought IE9 was the Frankenstein browser. Wasn't simply installing IE9 cause for NOF to fail in many unflattering ways? I don't even have IE9 installed for that very reason.

[Joe Rotello]

I respect your reply and stand, Ray.

However, the finality still stands:

Get RID of IE8, and replace it with IE9.

The vast majority of NOF 12's troubles with IE8 stem directly from
faults in IE8.

There is no sense in having to change, alter or dissect NOF 12 problems
with IE8 when the major fault lies not in NOF 12 -- it lies in IE8.

IE9 is recommended by Microsoft, by knowledgeable long-term NOF users,
and finally by NOF end-users who have finally realized the uselessness
of IE8...starting three+ years ago now.

Users of IE8 do so at their own peril.

Joe

On 2/15/2013 10:28 PM, RayC wrote:
> Joe Rotello wrote:
>>
>> Advise ALL users, designers, etc. to get rid of IE 8, and especially on
>> later versions of Windows, upgrade to IE 9, and soon, IE10 for Windows
>> 7.
>>
>> It's been known for a few years now that IE8 is a defective browser,
>> and
>> even Microsoft pleads with users and techs of all levels to rid
>> themselves of it, and upgrade at least to IE9.
>>
>
> Well, Joe, as web designers it's a little self-defeating to take a
> stance like that.
>
> Last I checked, IE7 (yes, "7") and IE8 had about 25% of the browser
> market in usage stats. That's a big chunk of the pie. A great many of
> those would be corporate users since a lot of corporations still use
> Windows XP and Windows 2000. So if corporate users are anywhere in your
> target audience, you'd best be compatible with IE8, at least.
>
> And as web designers, we do our clients a disservice if we exclude 25%
> of the population based on our own personal bias. This is also why I shy
> away from HTML5 and CSS3. Sure, it's cool, and I'd love to take
> advantage, but until the incompatible browser usage is in the single
> digits, I can't recommend it to my clients.
>
> And I thought IE9 was the Frankenstein browser. Wasn't simply
> installing IE9 cause for NOF to fail in many unflattering ways? I don't
> even have IE9 installed for that very reason.
>
>
>
> Ray Cambpell
> Sounds In Sync
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>

[Maiken]

Hi all, I just changed to NetObjects 12, and my website now looks awful:
www.wissenleben.de
Many pictures do not show and the navigation is all screwed up.
I'd be very happy if you could help me figure this out as I have tried for 3 hours now and am ready to scream.
But please use words that a complete computer idiot can understand as I don't know any of the abbreviations you are using.
Thanks a ton!!!
Maiken

[mia]

Hi Maiken,
you are hijacking somebody's thread.
Why don't you open your own thread with this problem?

You changed to NOF12. How did you transfer your project into the new NOF version?
Did you export your website as a template in Essentials and import it as " Create a new site > from Template"?
If you just opened your site in NOF12 that might be the reason why everything is messed up.

Did you install Update #3? You should do, because the transparency problem ( navigation buttons) has been fixed with this update.

Und nun nochmal in einfachen Worten eine Kurzempfehlung.
Die Übernahme eines Projektes in eine höhere NOF Version sollte immer nur per Vorlage erfolgen.
In Essentials erstellst du eine Vorlage, wie's geht steht hier:
http://www.nof-community.de/index.php/topic,53.0.html

Und in NOF 12 erstellst du dann eine "Neue Site > aus Vorlage", suchst auf deinem Rechner die gespeicherte .zip Datei, vergibst einen Namen und fertig.
Das Upate #3 behebt die Transparenz Probleme. Deine Navigation scheint davon betroffen zu sein.

Gruss
Mia

[Maiken]

and sorry for hijacking. I thought it's better to have posts on the same principal issues together.
I've got work to do. Cam't remember how I did this. But I do know that my old version is screwed up as well. Oh well.

Just one more question: where do I find update 3? I just had bought the version 12 3 weeks ago. Do I have to pay yet again for another update? Sorry, I am really sick and can't spend much time here as my head kills me. But I'v got to fox my webpage..thanks for any help!

[RayC]

http://netobjects.com/html/downloads.html

No, you don't have to pay for the updates if you own V.12. You may already have the latest, but it's worth checking.

[brownmil29]

Greetings Ray,

How do I make that change? While I understand conceptually what you are talking about, I am not familiar with the program enough on how to make that change.

I do value your assistance in resolving this issue.

Respectfully,

Keith

[brownmil29]

I agree with Ray. Having worked in DoD before being medically retired, while the rest of the world was using Microsoft Vista, most of DoD was still using XP and many applications had not been updated to use the new OS. Given the target audience that I am looking at, most inside DoD, I have to make sure that the website will display under IE8 correctly.

It is critical that the web designer understand the target audience and thus Ray's comments were spot on.

Well Done Ray.