NOF 2013 page view on left .... IE in middle, FF on right .... Style size set and matches what I see in NOF ... Text size set in browsers to default medium.
NOF 2013 page view on left .... IE in middle, FF on right .... Style size set and matches what I see in NOF ... Text size set in browsers to default medium.
Last edited by darrincates; 09-09-2013 at 09:42 PM.
And the URL is ...?
What settings are you using in NoF for text size? points? Pixels? ???
No URL yet .. just getting started ... I have the font set to Verdana size 10 in the sites style, and on the page view the font is set to Verdana 10 pt as well, but when viewed in any browser, it comes out looking like size 8 ... Picture from my 1st post above shows NOF 13 page view on the left showing Verdana size 10, then IE in the middle showing a smaller font when published, and far right is FF showing a smaller font size when published. Is there some type of other style / CSS setting somewhere new in 2013 that I am missing? I guess my question is why wouldn't it come out looking like it does in NOF? Why would NOF change the font size on publish from what I see in page view? I gave up and did the whole site in NOF 7 because when I set a font size in NOF 7, I get it on publish .... www.mainecustomdesign.com/~mainemon was done in NOF 7 .. thanks for any tips! - Darrin
Don't set text properties in the Text Properties panel. Let the selected style take care of it. Make sure to define ALL properties for each type of text element in your SiteStyle.
See my long-winded rant here.
First, don't set the font size in points. Points is a print measure and defined several centuries before even the most basic CRT screens came out. Always use pixels (or ems or % if you know what you're doing, which you clearly don't at this stage - no offence, just a statement of fact).
Second, understand that the web is not, never has been and isn't designed to be like a hard copy printing medium. The point of html is to define what certain elements are so that they can be styled according to the style sheet. While it would be nice for everything to appear the same in ever browser, it won't. It is the browser that renders the display by interpreting the html; again, it's not like print; you will get variations (although nothing like we used to a decade or so ago).
Points and pixels will both differ in appearance depending on the resolution of the screen (and, indeed, its make). In the same way that no two monitors will display colours the same. Some displays are now coming out as double-pixel displays (eg, Apple's Retina display) which give a higher resolution for the screen size.
NoF (and indeed all other similar programs) are not true wysiwyg for the reasons I've just outlined. Just accept them as a guide, publish and test, test, test before going live. This has always been the way to do it; just because our tools are getting more sophisticated doesn't mean that the need for testing has been obviated.
Finally, don't take this as criticism or a rant; asking questions here is always a good thing to do. Don't be afraid to ask.
Hi Ray, thanks for the reply & help .... I went into Style view, set all types of text to be Verdana 10pt and they got real small:
Then I went to page view and set the text properties to automatic which produced large text that ran over objects, but I publised any way and it came out right:
(NOF 13 page view on left, published browser view on right .... )
So to get the font to be correct on publish, I need to put up with layout overlapping? .. I must be doing something wrong .... at least in NOF 7 I can set the font size in the pageview and thats excactly what I get when I publish .... why is this not the case in NOF 13? - Thanks Ray!
Frustrated with NOF13, I ended up developing the whole site in a couple hours in NOF7 last night ... with no problems of CSS or text size: www.mainecustomdesign.com/~mainemon ...
It should be as easy in NOF13 as it was in NOF7, but it seems that there are more functional hoops to jump through in NOF13.
Last edited by darrincates; 09-11-2013 at 09:35 PM.
Jesusonapogostick, Darrin. You get answers, good, helpful answers, but not the answers you wanted, so you shoot the messenger. Come on, we are all here, reading and answering posts as a community. We get no cash reward for doing so, just (for me, anyway) the occasional satisfaction of helping someone out, or even learning something new myself.
Back the truck up a bit - if NoF 13 worked just like NoF 7 why bother with the upgrade? Things change, get used to it. And take the time to learn about the changes, or stick with an outdated product.
more functional hoops to jump through in NOF13 actually means that 13 is an updated and improved product that you don't seem bothered to learn.
/rant
hi darrincates, I was having the same problem as you but discovered the solution...double click on the text, then click the CLEAR button on the Text properties box.
Then 'select' all the text, and then increase the size by 1 pt which increases the text to the same size as your original text (when you upload)...give it a test trial and you will soon resolve the issue...hard to explain but \I finally got it to upload and display at the desired size. Cheers.
Last edited by gazzaly; 09-12-2013 at 06:03 AM.