Form not outputting value for some entries

[David W]

I am trying to create a page that has a form on it and some of the form
items are not outputting a value= for the item.

Some items are labeled in the program in the "text" but some items, such
as the radio buttons, do not have a value= associated with them? Should
they, and if so, why not?

Also, in my area of the form that has name, address. city, state, etc.,
only some of the form items have a value=, and some do not, even though
I put text into the "text" area of the Forms Edit Field Properties
dialog box.

Any insight here? I am not a coder, but I can edit small bits of html if
necessary, which is what I have been doing to add the value= statements
into the areas where NOF is not adding them in.

Thanks,
David

[Hobbes Alive]

Hi David,
I hate to ask the obvious... but have you configured the entire forms
ensemble correctly?

You need the forms manager page as well a the page you designed. Do you
have a confirmation page as well? Have you designated a place on the
server where the files will be stored?

If it's a PHP form, does your ISP support PHP?

I had relatively few problems when I designed mine in NOF9. It ported
over to NOF11 fine. I needed to modify/customize some files/scripts
because I leave the file on the server and receive and e-mail only.
(e.g. images).

My forms page is under "Contact Us" and the page is titled "Request /
Order Form".

BTW, the form will not work locally/published unless you can mimic your
isp's server environment... for lack of a better expression.

HTHS,
- Tom.
--
Tom Germanson
<http://www.germansonarts.com>

On 2/12/2010 1:02 PM, David W wrote:
> I am trying to create a page that has a form on it and some of the form
> items are not outputting a value= for the item.
>
> Some items are labeled in the program in the "text" but some items, such
> as the radio buttons, do not have a value= associated with them? Should
> they, and if so, why not?
>
> Also, in my area of the form that has name, address. city, state, etc.,
> only some of the form items have a value=, and some do not, even though
> I put text into the "text" area of the Forms Edit Field Properties
> dialog box.
>
> Any insight here? I am not a coder, but I can edit small bits of html if
> necessary, which is what I have been doing to add the value= statements
> into the areas where NOF is not adding them in.
>
> Thanks,
> David

[David W]

Tom,

Thanks for asking all of those good questions. However, the only thing I
am doing with the form is creating it in NOF. I do not determine the
confirmation page, the submit button or anything of that sort.

This form is used in an online personalized URL campaign generator. The
online purl application ingests the html file with the form in it and
reads what the actual form items are in the page. The application can
pre-populate the form with data supplied from a database we supply with
mapped fields to form entries. In order to pre-populate the form, we
must have a value= statement in the form for each of the items that will
be used by the purl application.

When I create a simple form edit field, for something such as First
Name, we create a value= stament by putting %%Firstname%% in the "Text"
field in the Forms Edit Field Properties dialog box.

I enter a similar value for each of my forms edit fields, such as
Address, City, State, Zip. For some reason, in this form, the value=
statements are beig put in for Firstname, Lastname, and Address, but not
for City and State. There is nothing different or unique about those
fields. I can edit the html afterwoards, but why should I have to do
that? If I enter the information into NOF, it should appear in the html
file.

Does this make sense? Ask more questions if it doesn't.

Thanks,
David

Hobbes Alive wrote:
> Hi David,
> I hate to ask the obvious... but have you configured the entire forms
> ensemble correctly?
>
> You need the forms manager page as well a the page you designed. Do you
> have a confirmation page as well? Have you designated a place on the
> server where the files will be stored?
>
> If it's a PHP form, does your ISP support PHP?
>
> I had relatively few problems when I designed mine in NOF9. It ported
> over to NOF11 fine. I needed to modify/customize some files/scripts
> because I leave the file on the server and receive and e-mail only.
> (e.g. images).
>
> My forms page is under "Contact Us" and the page is titled "Request /
> Order Form".
>
> BTW, the form will not work locally/published unless you can mimic your
> isp's server environment... for lack of a better expression.
>
> HTHS,
> - Tom.

[Hobbes Alive]

David,
I'm not sure that NOF forms is your solutions then.

I would hope others on the forum would put their "2 cents" in on your issue.

I'm using the forms as designed. I wouldn't know if your modifications
would work or not. If you look closely at each tab for each field,
there's several options.

Plus, you NEED the forms manager page which is a "no navigation" page.
On that forms manager page, you have options to tell the site what to do
next (e.g., if the form was filled out correctly).

Mine goes to a simple "no navigation" Thank You! page. There are links
to continue or to exit the site.

I've read other comments about security with forms. I won't comment
either way as I don't want to invite trouble ;-)

I would hope others would join in.

I think there's a better tool for what you want to do. I just don't know.
Peace always,
- Tom.
--
Tom Germanson
<http://www.germansonarts.com>

On 2/15/2010 2:15 PM, David W wrote:
> Tom,
>
> Thanks for asking all of those good questions. However, the only thing I
> am doing with the form is creating it in NOF. I do not determine the
> confirmation page, the submit button or anything of that sort.
>
> This form is used in an online personalized URL campaign generator. The
> online purl application ingests the html file with the form in it and
> reads what the actual form items are in the page. The application can
> pre-populate the form with data supplied from a database we supply with
> mapped fields to form entries. In order to pre-populate the form, we
> must have a value= statement in the form for each of the items that will
> be used by the purl application.
>
> When I create a simple form edit field, for something such as First
> Name, we create a value= stament by putting %%Firstname%% in the "Text"
> field in the Forms Edit Field Properties dialog box.
>
> I enter a similar value for each of my forms edit fields, such as
> Address, City, State, Zip. For some reason, in this form, the value=
> statements are beig put in for Firstname, Lastname, and Address, but not
> for City and State. There is nothing different or unique about those
> fields. I can edit the html afterwoards, but why should I have to do
> that? If I enter the information into NOF, it should appear in the html
> file.
>
> Does this make sense? Ask more questions if it doesn't.
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
> Hobbes Alive wrote:
>> Hi David,
>> I hate to ask the obvious... but have you configured the entire forms
>> ensemble correctly?
>>
>> You need the forms manager page as well a the page you designed. Do you
>> have a confirmation page as well? Have you designated a place on the
>> server where the files will be stored?
>>
>> If it's a PHP form, does your ISP support PHP?
>>
>> I had relatively few problems when I designed mine in NOF9. It ported
>> over to NOF11 fine. I needed to modify/customize some files/scripts
>> because I leave the file on the server and receive and e-mail only.
>> (e.g. images).
>>
>> My forms page is under "Contact Us" and the page is titled "Request /
>> Order Form".
>>
>> BTW, the form will not work locally/published unless you can mimic your
>> isp's server environment... for lack of a better expression.
>>
>> HTHS,
>> - Tom.
>