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  1. #1
    frank lee
    Guest

    Default NoF to create pure html templates

    Hi guys,

    I've decided to move to Concrete5 as a CMS. I have downloaded it and
    have it running under WAMP so installing under SunOS should be trivial.
    However, I need to create pure html templates to create C5 themes from
    and sinc e I've used NoF for so long I'd prefer to continue using it to
    build the pages (I usually design in Photoshop and then create the site
    in NoF). So I don't want any java/javascript cluttering up the template.
    What is the best way to achieve this in NoF? I'm assuming:

    1. fixed layout
    2. html rather than css

    Is this likely to be the best settings or would I get a cleaner html
    page using, say, semantic markup?

    Advice, anyone?

    TIA
    franko

  2. #2
    gotFusion LLC
    Guest

    Default Re: NoF to create pure html templates

    ...
    If you do not want any javascript stay away from components that generate
    javascript (including nav bars).

    To generate the tightest coding use zeromargins and place all content into a
    single container (textbox or table). Using inline html formatting will
    bloat the html coding. Since CSS is pulled in from separate files and only
    called once as a definition, using it creates smaller size html pages.

    --

    Mike - gotHosting.biz
    FREE Fusion Support with all hosting accounts
    ASP, PHP, ColdFusion Web Hosting
    www.gotHosting.biz www.gotFusion.com


    "frank lee" <frank@unlimitedmarketing.net> wrote in message
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    > Hi guys,
    >
    > I've decided to move to Concrete5 as a CMS. I have downloaded it and have
    > it running under WAMP so installing under SunOS should be trivial.
    > However, I need to create pure html templates to create C5 themes from and
    > sinc e I've used NoF for so long I'd prefer to continue using it to build
    > the pages (I usually design in Photoshop and then create the site in NoF).
    > So I don't want any java/javascript cluttering up the template. What is
    > the best way to achieve this in NoF? I'm assuming:
    >
    > 1. fixed layout
    > 2. html rather than css
    >
    > Is this likely to be the best settings or would I get a cleaner html page
    > using, say, semantic markup?
    >
    > Advice, anyone?
    >
    > TIA
    > franko





  3. #3
    frank lee
    Guest

    Default Re: NoF to create pure html templates

    Thanks Mike. How about the output settings - will semantic markup give
    me cleaner code than fixed or dynamic layout?

    cheers

    franko


    gotFusion LLC wrote:
    > ..
    > If you do not want any javascript stay away from components that
    > generate javascript (including nav bars).
    >
    > To generate the tightest coding use zeromargins and place all content
    > into a single container (textbox or table). Using inline html
    > formatting will bloat the html coding. Since CSS is pulled in from
    > separate files and only called once as a definition, using it creates
    > smaller size html pages.
    >


  4. #4
    Max
    Guest

    Default Re: NoF to create pure html templates

    Hi franko

    Yes, XHTML output will generate code that will validate.

    It does mean that it's necessary to find and use some slightly different
    techniques to lay thing out, though. For example putting one layout
    region within another causes display problems in some browsers, and may
    even confuse Fusion. And Fusion also sometime gets confused over
    vertical positioning - which I've been able to solve every time so far
    by adding an empty vertical layout region from the header to the footer
    (the answer isn't to try to constrain the errant layout by putting it
    within a layout region - that's likely to make things worse as per the
    above). A long as you are prepared to work through these issues it's fine.

    Finally, I get the impression that there aren't too many of us
    outputting to XHTML, so you may not be quite as well supported on this
    forum - though I could be wrong.

    Max

    ----
    frank lee wrote:
    > Thanks Mike. How about the output settings - will semantic markup give
    > me cleaner code than fixed or dynamic layout?
    >
    > cheers
    >
    > franko
    >
    >
    > gotFusion LLC wrote:
    >> ..
    >> If you do not want any javascript stay away from components that
    >> generate javascript (including nav bars).
    >>
    >> To generate the tightest coding use zeromargins and place all content
    >> into a single container (textbox or table). Using inline html
    >> formatting will bloat the html coding. Since CSS is pulled in from
    >> separate files and only called once as a definition, using it creates
    >> smaller size html pages.
    >>


  5. #5
    frank lee
    Guest

    Default Re: NoF to create pure html templates

    Thanks Max. As I mentioned I'll be importing the html template into
    concrete5 so I'm not worried about browser issues - I just want the
    plainest vanilla html to create a template from. I'll try creating one
    in xhtml, fixed and dynamic layouts and examine the code to see which
    gives me the best result for that purpose.

    cheers

    franko

    Max wrote:
    > Hi franko
    >
    > Yes, XHTML output will generate code that will validate.
    >
    > It does mean that it's necessary to find and use some slightly different
    > techniques to lay thing out, though. For example putting one layout
    > region within another causes display problems in some browsers, and may
    > even confuse Fusion. And Fusion also sometime gets confused over
    > vertical positioning - which I've been able to solve every time so far
    > by adding an empty vertical layout region from the header to the footer
    > (the answer isn't to try to constrain the errant layout by putting it
    > within a layout region - that's likely to make things worse as per the
    > above). A long as you are prepared to work through these issues it's fine.
    >
    > Finally, I get the impression that there aren't too many of us
    > outputting to XHTML, so you may not be quite as well supported on this
    > forum - though I could be wrong.
    >
    > Max
    >
    > ----
    > frank lee wrote:
    >> Thanks Mike. How about the output settings - will semantic markup give
    >> me cleaner code than fixed or dynamic layout?
    >>
    >> cheers
    >>
    >> franko
    >>
    >>
    >> gotFusion LLC wrote:
    >>> ..
    >>> If you do not want any javascript stay away from components that
    >>> generate javascript (including nav bars).
    >>>
    >>> To generate the tightest coding use zeromargins and place all content
    >>> into a single container (textbox or table). Using inline html
    >>> formatting will bloat the html coding. Since CSS is pulled in from
    >>> separate files and only called once as a definition, using it creates
    >>> smaller size html pages.
    >>>


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