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  1. #11
    Adendum
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    Default Re: What is causing the behaviour change?

    Andrew,

    Could be useful - but does it show how a page reacts, viz a vie, these
    popups when hovering?

    Paul

    On 22/03/2010 22:46, Technology Ideas wrote:
    > Just a tip for you, try downloading the free Microsoft Super Preview. That
    > will show you what pages look like in IE6& 7. Quite handy I've found.
    >
    > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
    >


  2. #12
    Adendum
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    Default Re: What is causing the behaviour change?

    Andrew,

    No it doesn't - just how it looks, not reacts/performs.

    On 22/03/2010 22:49, Adendum wrote:
    > Andrew,
    >
    > Could be useful - but does it show how a page reacts, viz a vie, these
    > popups when hovering?
    >
    > Paul
    >
    > On 22/03/2010 22:46, Technology Ideas wrote:
    >> Just a tip for you, try downloading the free Microsoft Super Preview.
    >> That
    >> will show you what pages look like in IE6& 7. Quite handy I've found.
    >>
    >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
    >>
    >>


  3. #13
    Technology Ideas
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    Default Re: What is causing the behaviour change?

    OK. Try hitting F12 in IE8 and then Document Mode: menu, then click IE7
    compat or Quirks mode and it will display what you are after.

    Better?

    --
    Andrew Baker
    Technology Ideas
    http://www.technologyideas.com.au
    Australia

    "Adendum" <Adendum@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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    > Andrew,
    >
    > No it doesn't - just how it looks, not reacts/performs.
    >
    > On 22/03/2010 22:49, Adendum wrote:
    >> Andrew,
    >>
    >> Could be useful - but does it show how a page reacts, viz a vie, these
    >> popups when hovering?
    >>
    >> Paul
    >>
    >> On 22/03/2010 22:46, Technology Ideas wrote:
    >>> Just a tip for you, try downloading the free Microsoft Super Preview.
    >>> That
    >>> will show you what pages look like in IE6& 7. Quite handy I've found.
    >>>
    >>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
    >>>
    >>>




  4. #14
    Technology Ideas
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    Default Re: What is causing the behaviour change?

    Looking as well, you have reference to two jquery.js

    --
    Andrew Baker
    Technology Ideas
    http://www.technologyideas.com.au
    Australia

    "Technology Ideas" <info@(remove)technologyideas.com.au> wrote in message
    news:ho8tnc$8ta$1@DailyPlanet.news.netobjects.com. ..
    > OK. Try hitting F12 in IE8 and then Document Mode: menu, then click IE7
    > compat or Quirks mode and it will display what you are after.
    >
    > Better?
    >
    > --
    > Andrew Baker
    > Technology Ideas
    > http://www.technologyideas.com.au
    > Australia
    >
    > "Adendum" <Adendum@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:ho8t3a$8es$1@DailyPlanet.news.netobjects.com. ..
    >> Andrew,
    >>
    >> No it doesn't - just how it looks, not reacts/performs.
    >>
    >> On 22/03/2010 22:49, Adendum wrote:
    >>> Andrew,
    >>>
    >>> Could be useful - but does it show how a page reacts, viz a vie, these
    >>> popups when hovering?
    >>>
    >>> Paul
    >>>
    >>> On 22/03/2010 22:46, Technology Ideas wrote:
    >>>> Just a tip for you, try downloading the free Microsoft Super Preview.
    >>>> That
    >>>> will show you what pages look like in IE6& 7. Quite handy I've found.
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
    >>>>
    >>>>

    >
    >




  5. #15
    Technology Ideas
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    Default Re: What is causing the behaviour change?

    Looking at it here, I can't see the jumping that you've mentioned.

    When looking in IE7 or IE8 mode, the following becomes an error with the
    AllWebMenus script line as well.

    Message: Object expected
    Line: 36
    Char: 1
    Code: 0
    URI: http://www.test.adendum.co.uk/client...d_choices.html

    --
    Andrew Baker
    Technology Ideas
    http://www.technologyideas.com.au
    Australia

    "Technology Ideas" <info@(remove)technologyideas.com.au> wrote in message
    news:ho8tsf$8up$1@DailyPlanet.news.netobjects.com. ..
    > Looking as well, you have reference to two jquery.js
    >
    > --
    > Andrew Baker
    > Technology Ideas
    > http://www.technologyideas.com.au
    > Australia
    >
    > "Technology Ideas" <info@(remove)technologyideas.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:ho8tnc$8ta$1@DailyPlanet.news.netobjects.com. ..
    >> OK. Try hitting F12 in IE8 and then Document Mode: menu, then click IE7
    >> compat or Quirks mode and it will display what you are after.
    >>
    >> Better?
    >>
    >> --
    >> Andrew Baker
    >> Technology Ideas
    >> http://www.technologyideas.com.au
    >> Australia
    >>
    >> "Adendum" <Adendum@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
    >> news:ho8t3a$8es$1@DailyPlanet.news.netobjects.com. ..
    >>> Andrew,
    >>>
    >>> No it doesn't - just how it looks, not reacts/performs.
    >>>
    >>> On 22/03/2010 22:49, Adendum wrote:
    >>>> Andrew,
    >>>>
    >>>> Could be useful - but does it show how a page reacts, viz a vie, these
    >>>> popups when hovering?
    >>>>
    >>>> Paul
    >>>>
    >>>> On 22/03/2010 22:46, Technology Ideas wrote:
    >>>>> Just a tip for you, try downloading the free Microsoft Super Preview.
    >>>>> That
    >>>>> will show you what pages look like in IE6& 7. Quite handy I've found.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
    >>>>>
    >>>>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    >




  6. #16
    Adendum
    Guest

    Default Re: What is causing the behaviour change?

    Andrew,

    I have but they are different versions in different folders. The
    glossary section needs to come first (it says) so I wasn't keen to
    further modify that or AWM. But if you think that makes a difference I
    can experiment.

    Paul

    On 22/03/2010 23:12, Technology Ideas wrote:
    > Looking as well, you have reference to two jquery.js
    >


  7. #17
    Adendum
    Guest

    Default Re: What is causing the behaviour change?

    Andrew,

    Yeah done that.
    Quirks mode damages the format of the 250px wide css pop-up,
    IE7 Standards does what the client see - jumping.
    IE8 is OK.

    Paul

    On 22/03/2010 23:09, Technology Ideas wrote:
    > OK. Try hitting F12 in IE8 and then Document Mode: menu, then click IE7
    > compat or Quirks mode and it will display what you are after.
    >
    > Better?
    >


  8. #18
    Technology Ideas
    Guest

    Default Re: What is causing the behaviour change?

    I guess the point is, and it will be a bit of a nightmare sorting it out
    which isn't what you want to hear, but you will have conflicts as jquery is
    a JavaScript library and therefore having two references to the same
    language library will inevitably cause problems, especially if they are two
    different versions. It depends how it's referencing the jquery.js but you
    may find just removing that hand-placed version won't break it. It's
    placement may be critical for the Tooltips, but the NOF version is auto
    placed and therefore maybe part of the problem. Unfortunately the jquery
    that comes with NOF is old and maybe Charles can help here, but I'm not sure
    that can be updated without breaking other things in NOF.

    I would peel this back to the thing that broke it all, and find another
    solution if that's at all possible.

    I've looked through your code and it just has a lot going on with external
    scripts that are all plugged in, therefore I think it has finally snapped.

    Or, bring the IE7 people into the IE8 world
    --
    Andrew Baker
    Technology Ideas
    http://www.technologyideas.com.au
    Australia

    "Adendum" <Adendum@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:ho8ud9$95q$1@DailyPlanet.news.netobjects.com. ..
    > Andrew,
    >
    > I have but they are different versions in different folders. The glossary
    > section needs to come first (it says) so I wasn't keen to further modify
    > that or AWM. But if you think that makes a difference I can experiment.
    >
    > Paul
    >
    > On 22/03/2010 23:12, Technology Ideas wrote:
    >> Looking as well, you have reference to two jquery.js
    >>

    >




  9. #19
    Adendum
    Guest

    Default Re: What is causing the behaviour change?

    Andrew,

    OK, makes sense. I'll start with the glossary references to jquery and
    see what that does but, as you say, the AllWebMenu's jquery may be
    harder to deal with. If NOF is using it too I'm in a heap of trouble!

    I like the last suggestion - send me their email addresses and I'll get
    back to you. There can't be that many IE7 users ..... ha!

    Paul

    On 22/03/2010 23:29, Technology Ideas wrote:
    > I guess the point is, and it will be a bit of a nightmare sorting it out
    > which isn't what you want to hear, but you will have conflicts as jquery is
    > a JavaScript library and therefore having two references to the same
    > language library will inevitably cause problems, especially if they are two
    > different versions. It depends how it's referencing the jquery.js but you
    > may find just removing that hand-placed version won't break it. It's
    > placement may be critical for the Tooltips, but the NOF version is auto
    > placed and therefore maybe part of the problem. Unfortunately the jquery
    > that comes with NOF is old and maybe Charles can help here, but I'm not sure
    > that can be updated without breaking other things in NOF.
    >
    > I would peel this back to the thing that broke it all, and find another
    > solution if that's at all possible.
    >
    > I've looked through your code and it just has a lot going on with external
    > scripts that are all plugged in, therefore I think it has finally snapped.
    >
    > Or, bring the IE7 people into the IE8 world


  10. #20
    Technology Ideas
    Guest

    Default Re: What is causing the behaviour change?

    According to the latest stats from Feb 2010 - 11.0% of all browsers (IE8
    14.7%)
    .....that's going to be a long list!
    --
    Andrew Baker
    Technology Ideas
    http://www.technologyideas.com.au
    Australia

    "Adendum" <Adendum@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:ho8v8m$9hp$1@DailyPlanet.news.netobjects.com. ..
    > Andrew,
    >
    > OK, makes sense. I'll start with the glossary references to jquery and see
    > what that does but, as you say, the AllWebMenu's jquery may be harder to
    > deal with. If NOF is using it too I'm in a heap of trouble!
    >
    > I like the last suggestion - send me their email addresses and I'll get
    > back to you. There can't be that many IE7 users ..... ha!
    >
    > Paul
    >
    > On 22/03/2010 23:29, Technology Ideas wrote:
    >> I guess the point is, and it will be a bit of a nightmare sorting it out
    >> which isn't what you want to hear, but you will have conflicts as jquery
    >> is
    >> a JavaScript library and therefore having two references to the same
    >> language library will inevitably cause problems, especially if they are
    >> two
    >> different versions. It depends how it's referencing the jquery.js but
    >> you
    >> may find just removing that hand-placed version won't break it. It's
    >> placement may be critical for the Tooltips, but the NOF version is auto
    >> placed and therefore maybe part of the problem. Unfortunately the jquery
    >> that comes with NOF is old and maybe Charles can help here, but I'm not
    >> sure
    >> that can be updated without breaking other things in NOF.
    >>
    >> I would peel this back to the thing that broke it all, and find another
    >> solution if that's at all possible.
    >>
    >> I've looked through your code and it just has a lot going on with
    >> external
    >> scripts that are all plugged in, therefore I think it has finally
    >> snapped.
    >>
    >> Or, bring the IE7 people into the IE8 world




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