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  1. #21
    Jim Seavey
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    Default Re: New EZRound Universal Import Tutorial for NOF users

    Charles Edmonds wrote:

    > On 7 Jul 2008 23:21:52 GMT, Jim Seavey wrote:
    >
    > > Not really. That's not what I have done.
    > >
    > > In all instances the images from EZ-Round were copied from the file where
    > > they were placed when generated by EZ-Round onto the Layout of the page
    > > where they are to be used in NOF.
    > >
    > > I then created a 3X3 table. I then dragged and dropped the items into the
    > > table in the order that they came off the stack from the copy.
    > >
    > > Are you telling me that the problem is because the center item comes up on
    > > the stack second from the last that it should be moved to another part of
    > > the page, and after the remaining image is moved into the cell on the table
    > > that the center image then goes into the center cell of the table as the
    > > last image to be put into a table cell?
    > >
    > > In other words, the only way a Layout Region can be used is by placing it in
    > > the last image put into a table.
    > >
    > > I can understand how putting the Layout Region in any cell other than the
    > > center cell will create problems when the table is resized.
    > >
    > > But, I cannot understand why NOF would not allow a Layout Region to be
    > > placed ONLY on a center image in a table and/or only in the last image to
    > > be put into the table. Perhaps I am misunderstanding this.
    > >
    > > I did not use the picture tool to bring the image into the table.

    >
    > Sorry Jim, but the way your doing it is WRONG and it is never going to work
    > for you that way.
    >
    > You have to follow the steps of the tutorial EXACTLY if you want this to
    > work!
    >
    > Here it is one more time:
    >
    > ALL the images EXCEPT the four corners MUST be added to the table cells as
    > BACKGROUND images. The ONLY way you can do that is to do it EXACTLY as the
    > tutorial shows.
    >
    > The four corner slices MUST be added with the picture tool.
    >
    > ALL of them get added from the ASSETS list AFTER you drag/drop the entire
    > lot on a EZRound page (as specified in the tutorial).
    >
    > This really is a simple technique that works every time when you follow the
    > directions in the tutorial.
    >
    > There is simply no room for deviation in how the images are placed or in
    > the sequence of steps if you want it to work.
    >
    > I can setup a new design in about 3 minutes and you can too, but you have
    > to stop fighting the system<g>.
    >
    > ;-)
    >
    > A little background...
    >
    > What makes it all work is the fact that the five images ARE background
    > images (which allows regions and content to be added on them).
    >
    > The four corner images (set as PHOTOS with the picture tool) keep the
    > design from collapsing in on itself.
    >
    > The layout tool (which is possible in the center cell because the center
    > cell does NOT have any other content in it - remember that slice is set as
    > a background image too) then becomes a "canvas" that you can put anything
    > else on that you like.
    >
    > But again I repeat - there is ZERO room for deviation from how we specified
    > this to work.
    >
    >
    > I'm sorry that I didn't catch on sooner that you were not following the
    > steps of the tutorial exactly. If I'd been told earlier that you were
    > doing things your own way, then I could have saved you a lot of
    > frustration.
    >
    > Take care,
    >
    > Charles


    Sorry for the delayed response. I've been out all day and just now am checking
    email, etc., and found your post.

    Geesh. I had no idea I could not just drop them on the table. After copying
    them onto the page that was just the next natural step for me.

    I am very curious as to why they have to be selected from a list of assets. Is
    it because the items dropped onto the page are not the same as the file that is
    an asset? I never really though about this before but it explains some other
    problems I have had if this is indeed the case.

    Mia culpa!

    I am very sorry to have wasted so much of your time. You were more than patient
    and I really feel that I have taken advantage of you for no good reason.

    Thanks for being so patient with me...

    Jim

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    "If Bill Gates had a nickel for every time Windows crashed...Oh, wait, he does!"

  2. #22
    Charles Edmonds
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    Default Re: New EZRound Universal Import Tutorial for NOF users

    On 9 Jul 2008 05:27:59 GMT, Jim Seavey wrote:

    > Sorry for the delayed response. I've been out all day and just now am checking
    > email, etc., and found your post.


    No problem - I figured you were busy.

    > Geesh. I had no idea I could not just drop them on the table. After copying
    > them onto the page that was just the next natural step for me.


    I can see where it would be, but they would all get added to the table with
    the <IMG> tag that way ... and of course they don't work as planned<g>


    > I am very curious as to why they have to be selected from a list of assets. Is
    > it because the items dropped onto the page are not the same as the file that is
    > an asset? I never really though about this before but it explains some other
    > problems I have had if this is indeed the case.


    By taking the recommended step of creating the EZRound page (marked "Do Not
    Publish") and dropping the files there, the files dropped there
    automatically become "assets" that belong to NOF.

    When you add the file slices from the Asset list, then NOF assumes
    responsibility for actually publishing the files.

    This eliminates the need to go into the assets list and mark EACH file as
    "Always Publish" (this was a very time consuming task as you have to do
    them one at a time).

    It also allows the EZRound page to become a "library" for your .NOD file.

    It never get's published (due to the setting above), but it "belongs" to
    NOF and NOF takes care of managing assets on that page.

    Then when you have created the design and COPY/PASTE it onto one (or more)
    pages where you want to use it - NOF takes care of knowing that it needs to
    publish the files (since they are now "in use" on another page).

    We've danced all around this over the years and have obviously tried every
    known way of getting NOF to cooperate<g>.

    This new technique of creating the EZRound page (as specified in the new
    tutorial<g>) works in all versions, it is fast and relatively painless<g>.


    An added benefit is that you can switch to site view, select the EZRound
    page and then use the EXPORT SELECTED PAGE as TEMPLATE to dump your EZRound
    "Library" out to a template.

    Then you go into another website (site view) and use INSERT TEMPLATE to
    pull those designs into a new website without having to recreate your work.

    Once again - since the EZRound files "belong" to NOF, all the dirty work is
    done for you.

    After you insert the EZRound library template into your new site, you
    select the entire table and use COPY/PASTE to put it on other pages where
    you want to use it.

    Does that make sense?



    > Mia culpa!
    >
    > I am very sorry to have wasted so much of your time. You were more than patient
    > and I really feel that I have taken advantage of you for no good reason.


    No worries Jim. Part of our job is to design and build the tools, the
    other is to make sure that people can use them. Usually we can get to the
    bottom of things on the first pass, but sometimes it takes a few extra
    cycles to get there<g>.


    > Thanks for being so patient with me...


    Thanks for hanging in there yourself until we figured out what was going
    wrong for you.


    Obviously our goal is to find a way for any user to be able to easily
    succeed with EZRound (in any version of NOF and with the least amount of
    effort).

    We believe that this new method accomplishes that. We've received over a
    hundred E-mails now from users who have started using the new method and
    have already fallen in love with it (and the "library page" concept), and
    those are just the ones who took the time to write.

    By all means if you have any other problems or questions, let us know.

    Good luck on your projects and thanks for being a customer.

    ;-)

    Charles






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