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  1. #1
    Kitty
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    Default v9 - 10

    Hi guys,

    Were any of you NOT using v.9 (with update), and now going to try v.10?

    I've mentioned before about my reluctance to get into v.9 (not sure
    why), but wondering if I should play around with it more seriously
    before I do v.10?

    Silly me for even asking though - I know I'm probably just going to jump
    into 10.
    ha.
    c'ya later,
    ~Kitty


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  2. #2
    Ali
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    Default Re: v9 - 10

    Hi Kitty

    I buy them all but have been developing in 7.5 until very recently. I like
    it.

    Ten feels completely different. It took me five hours to find out how to
    apply a CSS text style - that's how much it's changed.

    I always buy Fusion - it's a tradition in my family so I bought this, but
    it is taking some getting used to. I didn't beta test so it is all a shock.
    It has a huge amount of new stuff, most of which is entirely relevant to
    taking the product forward, but kind of irrelevant to me, who chews the end
    of her Intuos pen and sticks paper designs on her screen to see what size
    the graphic should be - sometimes. How will it be for designers who like to
    eat peppers while they work?

    I am a designer not a coder, and this is squarely for coders. I say this
    about all programs! I am definitely a geek, but a visual geek. I might spend
    an hour measuring something against the golden mean, or against a color
    scale but the mere thought of PHP makes me go and lie down for a long time.
    This is a fault in my programming, not Fusion's.

    So it is very good - Jeffrey Zeldman would welcome the changes. And if you
    are very into CSS designing in Topstyle or the like, you will feel at home.
    But it is very difficult for a visual designer like me to start seeing
    things from the back end. I am not levelling criticism at Fusion but at the
    world, really. We want to do everything by numbers and not from the heart or
    imagination. And for what? I spend half my life waiting for web pages to
    load from some back end or another, whatever program they were designed in,
    something that NEVER happens to me when I access your pages on the internet!
    Having had a web site since 1996, I struggle to see the progress at times. I
    click out of some of the most expensive sites in the world, because they are
    slow and I am too darned busy. There are more abandoned shopping carts on my
    PC than in any city river.

    So ask me in a couple of months. I think I will like it a lot. I can see the
    point of most of the changes. I am going to make my next site in 10, because
    that is the best motivator for learning a new program.

    I had hoped for a blog tool - clients ask for blogs now, not traditional web
    sites. If there is a blog tool perhaps someone could let me know where.

    There is a Flash photo gallery which is interesting. There are also some
    graphics tools, which might not help us so much but will really help others.
    The sitestyle makers are there, also, but I haven;t checked them out yet. I
    couldn't figure them out before so used to design from the SiteStyle itself.
    Perhaps there will be better instructions or a movie and I will be
    converted. They certainly are an excellent idea.

    You know you will buy it and you will probably love it, especially as you do
    much more web design than I do nowadays.

    Much love from this end of the madness,

    Ali

    Kitty" <ink2art@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:ekj1q9$l8e13@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com. ..
    > Hi guys,
    >
    > Were any of you NOT using v.9 (with update), and now going to try v.10?
    >
    > I've mentioned before about my reluctance to get into v.9 (not sure why),
    > but wondering if I should play around with it more seriously before I do
    > v.10?
    >
    > Silly me for even asking though - I know I'm probably just going to jump
    > into 10.
    > ha.
    > c'ya later,
    > ~Kitty
    >
    >
    > --
    > Ink2Art.com
    > FullMoonGraphics.com
    > ArtBeatStreet.com




  3. #3
    Peter Eisenburger
    Guest

    Default Re: v9 - 10

    Well said.

    Peter


    Ali wrote:
    > Hi Kitty
    >
    > I buy them all but have been developing in 7.5 until very recently. I like
    > it.
    >
    > Ten feels completely different. It took me five hours to find out how to
    > apply a CSS text style - that's how much it's changed.
    >
    > I always buy Fusion - it's a tradition in my family so I bought this, but
    > it is taking some getting used to. I didn't beta test so it is all a shock.
    > It has a huge amount of new stuff, most of which is entirely relevant to
    > taking the product forward, but kind of irrelevant to me, who chews the end
    > of her Intuos pen and sticks paper designs on her screen to see what size
    > the graphic should be - sometimes. How will it be for designers who like to
    > eat peppers while they work?
    >
    > I am a designer not a coder, and this is squarely for coders. I say this
    > about all programs! I am definitely a geek, but a visual geek. I might spend
    > an hour measuring something against the golden mean, or against a color
    > scale but the mere thought of PHP makes me go and lie down for a long time.
    > This is a fault in my programming, not Fusion's.
    >
    > So it is very good - Jeffrey Zeldman would welcome the changes. And if you
    > are very into CSS designing in Topstyle or the like, you will feel at home.
    > But it is very difficult for a visual designer like me to start seeing
    > things from the back end. I am not levelling criticism at Fusion but at the
    > world, really. We want to do everything by numbers and not from the heart or
    > imagination. And for what? I spend half my life waiting for web pages to
    > load from some back end or another, whatever program they were designed in,
    > something that NEVER happens to me when I access your pages on the internet!
    > Having had a web site since 1996, I struggle to see the progress at times. I
    > click out of some of the most expensive sites in the world, because they are
    > slow and I am too darned busy. There are more abandoned shopping carts on my
    > PC than in any city river.
    >
    > So ask me in a couple of months. I think I will like it a lot. I can see the
    > point of most of the changes. I am going to make my next site in 10, because
    > that is the best motivator for learning a new program.
    >
    > I had hoped for a blog tool - clients ask for blogs now, not traditional web
    > sites. If there is a blog tool perhaps someone could let me know where.
    >
    > There is a Flash photo gallery which is interesting. There are also some
    > graphics tools, which might not help us so much but will really help others.
    > The sitestyle makers are there, also, but I haven;t checked them out yet. I
    > couldn't figure them out before so used to design from the SiteStyle itself.
    > Perhaps there will be better instructions or a movie and I will be
    > converted. They certainly are an excellent idea.
    >
    > You know you will buy it and you will probably love it, especially as you do
    > much more web design than I do nowadays.
    >
    > Much love from this end of the madness,
    >
    > Ali
    >
    > Kitty" <ink2art@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:ekj1q9$l8e13@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com. ..
    >> Hi guys,
    >>
    >> Were any of you NOT using v.9 (with update), and now going to try v.10?
    >>
    >> I've mentioned before about my reluctance to get into v.9 (not sure why),
    >> but wondering if I should play around with it more seriously before I do
    >> v.10?
    >>
    >> Silly me for even asking though - I know I'm probably just going to jump
    >> into 10.
    >> ha.
    >> c'ya later,
    >> ~Kitty
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Ink2Art.com
    >> FullMoonGraphics.com
    >> ArtBeatStreet.com

    >
    >


  4. #4
    Kitty
    Guest

    Default Re: v9 - 10

    Ali,

    Being almost one in the same when it comes to NOF, I read your words
    like they were my own - so can pretty much get a good idea of what I'll
    experience!

    I look forward to playing around with it.
    ~K


    Ali wrote:
    > Hi Kitty
    >
    > I buy them all but have been developing in 7.5 until very recently. I like
    > it.
    >
    > Ten feels completely different. It took me five hours to find out how to
    > apply a CSS text style - that's how much it's changed.
    >
    > I always buy Fusion - it's a tradition in my family so I bought this, but
    > it is taking some getting used to. I didn't beta test so it is all a shock.
    > It has a huge amount of new stuff, most of which is entirely relevant to
    > taking the product forward, but kind of irrelevant to me, who chews the end
    > of her Intuos pen and sticks paper designs on her screen to see what size
    > the graphic should be - sometimes. How will it be for designers who like to
    > eat peppers while they work?
    >
    > I am a designer not a coder, and this is squarely for coders. I say this
    > about all programs! I am definitely a geek, but a visual geek. I might spend
    > an hour measuring something against the golden mean, or against a color
    > scale but the mere thought of PHP makes me go and lie down for a long time.
    > This is a fault in my programming, not Fusion's.
    >
    > So it is very good - Jeffrey Zeldman would welcome the changes. And if you
    > are very into CSS designing in Topstyle or the like, you will feel at home.
    > But it is very difficult for a visual designer like me to start seeing
    > things from the back end. I am not levelling criticism at Fusion but at the
    > world, really. We want to do everything by numbers and not from the heart or
    > imagination. And for what? I spend half my life waiting for web pages to
    > load from some back end or another, whatever program they were designed in,
    > something that NEVER happens to me when I access your pages on the internet!
    > Having had a web site since 1996, I struggle to see the progress at times. I
    > click out of some of the most expensive sites in the world, because they are
    > slow and I am too darned busy. There are more abandoned shopping carts on my
    > PC than in any city river.
    >
    > So ask me in a couple of months. I think I will like it a lot. I can see the
    > point of most of the changes. I am going to make my next site in 10, because
    > that is the best motivator for learning a new program.
    >
    > I had hoped for a blog tool - clients ask for blogs now, not traditional web
    > sites. If there is a blog tool perhaps someone could let me know where.
    >
    > There is a Flash photo gallery which is interesting. There are also some
    > graphics tools, which might not help us so much but will really help others.
    > The sitestyle makers are there, also, but I haven;t checked them out yet. I
    > couldn't figure them out before so used to design from the SiteStyle itself.
    > Perhaps there will be better instructions or a movie and I will be
    > converted. They certainly are an excellent idea.
    >
    > You know you will buy it and you will probably love it, especially as you do
    > much more web design than I do nowadays.
    >
    > Much love from this end of the madness,
    >
    > Ali
    >
    > Kitty" <ink2art@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:ekj1q9$l8e13@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com. ..
    >> Hi guys,
    >>
    >> Were any of you NOT using v.9 (with update), and now going to try v.10?
    >>
    >> I've mentioned before about my reluctance to get into v.9 (not sure why),
    >> but wondering if I should play around with it more seriously before I do
    >> v.10?
    >>
    >> Silly me for even asking though - I know I'm probably just going to jump
    >> into 10.
    >> ha.
    >> c'ya later,
    >> ~Kitty
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Ink2Art.com
    >> FullMoonGraphics.com
    >> ArtBeatStreet.com

    >
    >



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