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    Default Host upgrade to PHP 7 crashed website

    I have a large website (started years ago with NOF version 7) that I run for an charity organization. It has a large number of secure pages, hence a lot of PHP pages. I am currently using NOF 13 (1and1 edition).

    I received a notice from the host (1and1) that I should upgrade my service from PHP version 5.6 to the latest PHP version 7, so I went to the 1and1 control panel and upgraded. After I did this, all the website PHP pages showed up as blank pages in the browser. I reverted back to the previous host setup with PHP version 5.6, and everything worked ok again.

    1and1 will only support PHP5.6 for 1 more year, so I need to do something to preserve this 200-plus page website functionality.

    My question: is there a way to upgrade my NOF 13 (1and1 edition) to conform to the latest PHP version 7 recommended by 1and1?

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    In a word... No.

    PHP support in Fusion dates back to PHP 4.x.

    In any case, Fusion 2013 is no longer receiving updates. And don't expect an update to the current version of Fusion (2015) to add PHP 7 support.

    Hopefully, NetObjects will update the PHP generating components in the next version of Fusion to support more recent version of PHP.

    I haven't looked into the reasons for the code generated by Fusion to fail with PHP 7, but it's possible it could be the method used to connect to databases, including the flat CVS files Fusion uses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckj View Post
    In a word... No.

    PHP support in Fusion dates back to PHP 4.x.

    In any case, Fusion 2013 is no longer receiving updates. And don't expect an update to the current version of Fusion (2015) to add PHP 7 support.

    Hopefully, NetObjects will update the PHP generating components in the next version of Fusion to support more recent version of PHP.

    I haven't looked into the reasons for the code generated by Fusion to fail with PHP 7, but it's possible it could be the method used to connect to databases, including the flat CVS files Fusion uses.

    Thanks for the reply.

    Ugh! It looks like I will have to start rebuilding the main part of the website with another program - possibly even Wordpress. It's probably about time to modernize with a responsive website anyway. Too bad NOF didn't step up to the modern world sooner with a responsive web design program.

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    Fixing the PHP code generated by Fusion is relatively trivial.

    I just took a look and yes, it's the database connection functions that need updating.

    Easy fix for NetObjects, once they get to it.
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    Ask 1&1 to move you to a cloud linux box and set your version of PHP back to where you need it to be.

    1&1 is a cloud linux partner.

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    I have been wondering about this 1&1 hosting operation for a long time. They seem bound and determined to annoy all of their customer/clients frequently with dictatorial edicts which will cause a lot of problems for their users.

    Most PHP sites on this earth probably require PHP version 5.3 or below to work. Many PHP sites will flat out fail on PHP 5.6 or above. So why does this hosting company make arbitrary changes that cause difficulty, I have no idea.

    But I am also somewhat puzzled that while many clients of 1&1 are more than upset with the company, they refuse to leave and go to a more supportive company that will supply what their clients need to run their websites. I guess people hate change and get used to crappy treatment.

    Spending a huge amount of time modifying a website to be compatible with another version of PHP instead of just moving to another hosting company is really not understandable.

    Why are people so loyal to companies that don't make web hosting easy?
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    If you're thinking of switching hosts, I totally recommend Superb.net. I've been with them for almost 15 years and their customer support is second to none. They are also conservative in updating technology and only do so once it has been proven necessary, not for the sake of having the latest and greatest. They also have a variety of hosting options. Being located in Australia I have sometimes needed telephone support for a site that while located in the US gets its main traffic in Australian working hours. I have never failed to get to talk to a technician when I needed to and the issue has usually been resolved promptly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick6811 View Post
    I have been wondering about this 1&1 hosting operation for a long time. They seem bound and determined to annoy all of their customer/clients frequently with dictatorial edicts which will cause a lot of problems for their users.

    Most PHP sites on this earth probably require PHP version 5.3 or below to work. Many PHP sites will flat out fail on PHP 5.6 or above. So why does this hosting company make arbitrary changes that cause difficulty, I have no idea.

    But I am also somewhat puzzled that while many clients of 1&1 are more than upset with the company, they refuse to leave and go to a more supportive company that will supply what their clients need to run their websites. I guess people hate change and get used to crappy treatment.

    Spending a huge amount of time modifying a website to be compatible with another version of PHP instead of just moving to another hosting company is really not understandable.

    Why are people so loyal to companies that don't make web hosting easy?
    If you should decide to try another hosting company, READ THEIR TERMS AND CONDITIONS, DO NOT RELY ON WHAT THEY SAY ON THEIR HYPED WEB PAGES. You will find much different information in the terms and conditions which are usually written in a manner that makes it very uninviting to want to read them. They don't want you to read their terms for obvious reasons.

    In the terms and conditions, you will find out what "unlimited" really means and it's not what you think it means. You will also find out that if your web site won't work on their servers, you still have to pay for the term of the contract or agreement you signed up for. In other words, be very careful what you sign before you read or skip the small print.

    Most hosting companies think they have to flat out lie because all the other companies do. Apparently if they tell the truth nobody will want to go with them for hosting or so they think. Not all hosting companies lie. A lot of them will tell you accurately up front what their terms are. They won't try to hide them. Go with them. I would rather do business with honest people.

    When you need clarification about a company's hosting, always use email, never use the phone. Email gives you a written record of what they say.
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    Tsohost are worth considering. They're UK-based, and their support is world-class. I've used them for many years and can highly recommend them.

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