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    I have NOF 2015 - it is very creaky at best with Windows 10[64]. I like using the software, but it is really showing its age. Does anyone know of equivalent software that runs well on Windows 10? I will keep using NOF on an old machine for updating sites etc., but I need something for the updated machines.

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    There is no equivalent.

    Learn your key buzzwords in what you want and search the forum on those. It's been hashed over more times than liberal democracy versus conservative capitalism.

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    I (and many others) use Fusion 15 (2015) on Windows 10 machines with no issues at all.

    Most problems seem to be interactions with anti-virus or non-Microsoft firewalls.
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    Thanks - I'll try with the AV off

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    Quote Originally Posted by lugton View Post
    Thanks - I'll try with the AV off
    Just set the AV to "allow" Fusion in/out permissions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    that release 5 was published in 2000. NetObjects had revenue of $34.2 million for fiscal year 2000 (October 1999 - September 2000) and in 2000 the stock price of NETO (ticker symbol) reached its record high of $45 11/16 USD, making NetObjects worth $1.5 billion.

    those were the glorious days, my friend....
    Where is the dough, $$$, cash, greenbacks???

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    Hi Mike,

    I read almost the entire wikipedia entry.
    Thank you for your contribution!

    The whole episode was exagerated, IMO.
    Too many hands at the pie.

    I personally would NOT have gotten myself (or my company) involved with heavy hitters thinking they would save me, because I know they also could crush me ...

    Everything that goes up does not have to come down. One can graciously bow out if the scene when he is at the top ...

    Why take kicks in the butt at the bottom or on the way down?
    Last edited by Since_v4; 10-15-2017 at 07:11 PM.

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    .. all of which brings us to www.koken.me
    How long will koken be alive and kicking?
    Wanna bet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by franko View Post
    I discarded wysiwyg web builder for the very reason it uses absolute positioning. I know that it can be kludged to create responsive web sites but there are better tools. I'm using Coffee Cup responsive apps (RSD, Foundation Framer, Bootstrap Builder and a few more). Foundation Framer is my choice because Foundation is a mobile first approach to coding. If you can afford it, though Responsive Site Designer is the best choice because it gives you a choice of frameworks - Foundation, Bootstrap and RSD's own framework. Ain't nothing you can't do with these apps as you have complete access to the html, css and javascript. Bit of a learning curve but well worth it.

    You can also turn any site into a responsive site by adding some Bootsrap code. Freecodecamp.org has a good tutorial series on doing this. In fact, it has a whole web coding course that is completely free and I highly recommend it. But go on the site, register and do a search for bootstrap and the appropriate pages should come up.
    Frank,

    I think I shall step into your shoes and go with Coffee Cup's Web Editor.

    Which of Bootstrap or Foundation resembles NOF more than the other?

    (Oh, yeah, I know I can download the two for trial, but I want to be babysat today ...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by franko View Post
    Foundation framer, Bootstrap builder and Responsive Site Designer all have similar interfaces to one another. RSD gives you a choice of the foundation, bootstrap and its own frameworks to choose from. Foundation is a mobile-first framework created by zurb. Bootstrap is a desktop-first framework developed by, I believe, Twitter. The difference is simply whether you choose to create your mobile version first and then your larger versions, or your desktop version first and then your mobile versions. None of them resemble Netobjects Fusion. Nothing does.
    Thanks Frank!
    Coffee Cup's HTML Editor for $29?
    Can I write my text, add a few .png images and insert a web form?

    I want a software that does ONE website that fits mobile and desktops.
    I shall never waste time to make a website for mobile users AND another website with the same content and purpose for desktop users.

    Again, I can download it to judge for myself but today I want to hear how somebody can spend a little to gain a lot in the shortest possible time.
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