Installation problems resulting in styles problems???

[William Patterson]

OK...I missed your update and added the same thing. I hate vista...I only
have it on my laptop since it came that way and I figured it would be good
to learn since the pc Gods at MS are shoving it down the publics throat. XP
is so much more stable...coming from NT it was tried and proven. Why fix
what is not broke!
"Chuck «BeyondFusion»" <supportno@spambeyondfusion.com> wrote in message
news:g91adp$s4s6@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>I think you should uninstall again and remove all of the files in the All
>Users folder and My Documents and try again.
>
> You may have an incomplete installation.
>
> The file arrangement you're seeing is the Vista compatible one that 11
> uses.
>
> If you're not planning on upgrading the machine to Vista, do a custom
> install and install 11 as you have 10 installed.
>
> When 11 installs, don't choose the option to run immediately.
>
> Then run the program after the installation window goes away.
>
> --
> Chuck Joslin
> BeyondFusion.com - Your Fusion Community
> www.beyondfusion.com
>
> Register domain names at www.awavedomains.com
>
> "William Patterson" <webmaster@wwmgmt.com> wrote in message
> news:g919dv$s4s5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>I have always done that with ram...I have used pcs since my first commador
>>64. Not trying to be a smart !@#.
>> I think I know what has happened. I looked at the xml file again and it
>> shows it is looking for all the styles in the shared area under the All
>> Users. It looks like nof tried to make copies of the styles it finds on
>> the machine. I see the Classic Styles and NOF 10 styles etc.. If I go
>> look at the styles that work fine under nof 10 they are full of far more
>> objects than what the shared version under nof 11. As an example, the
>> Comic sytle under nof 11 only has images folder, imagePreview.gif and two
>> css files. Under nof 10 it has 8 folders and a index.html file etc..
>> Does this look to you like the installation of the shared area got messed
>> up? Maybe I should delete the nof 11 folder under the shared area of All
>> Users and try again. Either that or copy all the files from nof 10
>> styles over to nof 11 and see what happens.
>> What do you think?
>>
>> "Chuck «BeyondFusion»" <supportno@spambeyondfusion.com> wrote in message
>> news:g918c8$s4s4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>> Check your virtual memory settings.
>>>
>>> It's best (IMHO) to not let Windows manage VM dynamically. Allocate hard
>>> drive space equal to 2 times physical ram as a set size for your paging
>>> file.
>>>
>>> Should improve performance dramatically, especially if you have multiple
>>> apps open.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chuck Joslin
>>> BeyondFusion.com - Your Fusion Community
>>> www.beyondfusion.com
>>>
>>> Register domain names at www.awavedomains.com
>>>
>>> "William Patterson" <webmaster@wwmgmt.com> wrote in message
>>> news:g9182j$s4s3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>>> Well this morning I looked around to find where the nod files etc. are
>>>> kept and found them under my documents. I deleted the whole folder and
>>>> launched nof 11. As I thought it created a new clean folder under my
>>>> documents. Not much changed but I do notice that if I have several
>>>> active styles they flip back and forth very fast. Going and looking at
>>>> a non-active style takes a long time. What is weird is that it is not
>>>> disk access time but processor time. I can see all my drives and they
>>>> are not working while this wait is going on. When it does come up with
>>>> a new style the current style shows up for a second and then the screen
>>>> flashes and the new one then shows up.
>>>> I have a machine with a fast STAT C: Drive and 3 other drives. There
>>>> is about 40 gig left on the C: drive and memory is 2gig. I can have
>>>> multiple apps open since I have a dual monitor system and being running
>>>> nof 10 and going to Photoshop and then several different browsers and
>>>> nof 10 works just fine. I have even opened Dreamweaver 8 to do some
>>>> code work to cut and paste back into nof and it all works just fine. I
>>>> have a laptop with vista on it...ugh! I wonder if I install nof 11 on
>>>> it how it would react. I understand about running as an administrator
>>>> and not running the program from the install message.
>>>> I looked at the XML file for styles that shows where they are located
>>>> and it did not look like it had any extra junk in it. The paths all
>>>> look fine.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the response. I just wonder if anyone else has had this
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> One last question. Is there a way to look at styles without running
>>>> the program? Some sort of utility?
>>>>
>>>> "Charles Edmonds" <cje_ByteMeSpammers_@lansrad.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:15qiranua4zbj$.1iyuaggbv0nal.dlg@40tude.net.. .
>>>>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:44:50 -0700, William Patterson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I re-installed nof 11 using the defaults and the problem is still
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>> Not as bad but in some cases as much as a full 60 seconds to change
>>>>>> styles...using just the classic styles. In the active styles it only
>>>>>> takes
>>>>>> a few seconds to change.
>>>>>> This was installed on a windows XP Pro with SP 2 and in the same
>>>>>> drive and
>>>>>> programs locations as my NOF 10. It runs great.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is weird!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Could there be something in the registery that needs tweaking?
>>>>>
>>>>> No - nothing relevant.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I checked the registery after I un-installed nof 11 and they only
>>>>>> thing left was my
>>>>>> registration information. Nothing about location of files or
>>>>>> anything else.
>>>>>> It did how every find my user file with my test site in it that I
>>>>>> failed to
>>>>>> delete from the user area. I wonder if I should delete that whole
>>>>>> area and
>>>>>> try it again...any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> That might work, but creating a new blank site should give the same
>>>>> effect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also - when is the last time you defragmented your hard drive (and do
>>>>> you
>>>>> have plenty of space)? NOF is around 130 MB a pop, so a lot of files
>>>>> get
>>>>> flung about.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another item is how much RAM in your system? If your close on memory
>>>>> then
>>>>> Windows might be getting bogged down in the style copy.
>>>>>
>>>>> You might also check your settings for your anti-virus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of them are over-aggressive on checking every file as they are
>>>>> copied.
>>>>> That could slow you down too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Charles Edmonds
>>>>> cje_ByteMeSpammers_@lansrad.com (remove the _ByteMeSpammers_ to email
>>>>> me)
>>>>> www.pagesnip.com - "Print and Save the Web, just the way you want it!"
>>>>> www.clarionproseries.com - "Serious imaging tools for Clarion
>>>>> Developers"
>>>>> www.ezround.com - "Round Corner HTML tables with matching Banners,
>>>>> Buttons
>>>>> and Forms!"
>>>>> www.lansrad.com - "Intelligent Solutions for Universal Problems"
>>>>> www.fotokiss.com - "World's Best Auction Photo Editor"
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

[William Patterson]

I re-installed and told the installer to put all the "other" stuff into the
same folder where the program is installed...just like they did with nof 10.
It still builds a folder under my documents where it places a system folder
and the user sites. That is different than nof 10.
They problem with the styles is still the same in that it takes forever to
switch between styles. I checked a few of the classic styles and it also
did the same thing in not fully adding all the files like it has in nof 10.
I guess the thing to do is play with the styles in nof 10 and see the one I
want and then go to nof 11 and select it...not try to flip to other styles.
I do not understand why it is only partially building the sytles in 11.
Maybe the XML file is messed up??? I looked at it and it looks right.
?????


"William Patterson" <webmaster@wwmgmt.com> wrote in message
news:g91akl$t701@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>I went to my nof 10 and tried again flipping through the styles and they
>just go click, click just fine. I copied the classic styles folder to the
>shared area that nof 11 uses and it did not change a thing. I am now
>removing all the folder associated with nof 11 under shared area and under
>my documents and then un-install nof 11 and will give it another try. It
>might be that they where not removed the last time I un-installed and when
>re-installing it found the styles to already be there and did not
>re-install them.
> Will up date.
>
>
> "William Patterson" <webmaster@wwmgmt.com> wrote in message
> news:g919dv$s4s5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>I have always done that with ram...I have used pcs since my first commador
>>64. Not trying to be a smart !@#.
>> I think I know what has happened. I looked at the xml file again and it
>> shows it is looking for all the styles in the shared area under the All
>> Users. It looks like nof tried to make copies of the styles it finds on
>> the machine. I see the Classic Styles and NOF 10 styles etc.. If I go
>> look at the styles that work fine under nof 10 they are full of far more
>> objects than what the shared version under nof 11. As an example, the
>> Comic sytle under nof 11 only has images folder, imagePreview.gif and two
>> css files. Under nof 10 it has 8 folders and a index.html file etc..
>> Does this look to you like the installation of the shared area got messed
>> up? Maybe I should delete the nof 11 folder under the shared area of All
>> Users and try again. Either that or copy all the files from nof 10
>> styles over to nof 11 and see what happens.
>> What do you think?
>>
>> "Chuck «BeyondFusion»" <supportno@spambeyondfusion.com> wrote in message
>> news:g918c8$s4s4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>> Check your virtual memory settings.
>>>
>>> It's best (IMHO) to not let Windows manage VM dynamically. Allocate hard
>>> drive space equal to 2 times physical ram as a set size for your paging
>>> file.
>>>
>>> Should improve performance dramatically, especially if you have multiple
>>> apps open.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chuck Joslin
>>> BeyondFusion.com - Your Fusion Community
>>> www.beyondfusion.com
>>>
>>> Register domain names at www.awavedomains.com
>>>
>>> "William Patterson" <webmaster@wwmgmt.com> wrote in message
>>> news:g9182j$s4s3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>>> Well this morning I looked around to find where the nod files etc. are
>>>> kept and found them under my documents. I deleted the whole folder and
>>>> launched nof 11. As I thought it created a new clean folder under my
>>>> documents. Not much changed but I do notice that if I have several
>>>> active styles they flip back and forth very fast. Going and looking at
>>>> a non-active style takes a long time. What is weird is that it is not
>>>> disk access time but processor time. I can see all my drives and they
>>>> are not working while this wait is going on. When it does come up with
>>>> a new style the current style shows up for a second and then the screen
>>>> flashes and the new one then shows up.
>>>> I have a machine with a fast STAT C: Drive and 3 other drives. There
>>>> is about 40 gig left on the C: drive and memory is 2gig. I can have
>>>> multiple apps open since I have a dual monitor system and being running
>>>> nof 10 and going to Photoshop and then several different browsers and
>>>> nof 10 works just fine. I have even opened Dreamweaver 8 to do some
>>>> code work to cut and paste back into nof and it all works just fine. I
>>>> have a laptop with vista on it...ugh! I wonder if I install nof 11 on
>>>> it how it would react. I understand about running as an administrator
>>>> and not running the program from the install message.
>>>> I looked at the XML file for styles that shows where they are located
>>>> and it did not look like it had any extra junk in it. The paths all
>>>> look fine.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the response. I just wonder if anyone else has had this
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> One last question. Is there a way to look at styles without running
>>>> the program? Some sort of utility?
>>>>
>>>> "Charles Edmonds" <cje_ByteMeSpammers_@lansrad.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:15qiranua4zbj$.1iyuaggbv0nal.dlg@40tude.net.. .
>>>>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:44:50 -0700, William Patterson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I re-installed nof 11 using the defaults and the problem is still
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>> Not as bad but in some cases as much as a full 60 seconds to change
>>>>>> styles...using just the classic styles. In the active styles it only
>>>>>> takes
>>>>>> a few seconds to change.
>>>>>> This was installed on a windows XP Pro with SP 2 and in the same
>>>>>> drive and
>>>>>> programs locations as my NOF 10. It runs great.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is weird!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Could there be something in the registery that needs tweaking?
>>>>>
>>>>> No - nothing relevant.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I checked the registery after I un-installed nof 11 and they only
>>>>>> thing left was my
>>>>>> registration information. Nothing about location of files or
>>>>>> anything else.
>>>>>> It did how every find my user file with my test site in it that I
>>>>>> failed to
>>>>>> delete from the user area. I wonder if I should delete that whole
>>>>>> area and
>>>>>> try it again...any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> That might work, but creating a new blank site should give the same
>>>>> effect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also - when is the last time you defragmented your hard drive (and do
>>>>> you
>>>>> have plenty of space)? NOF is around 130 MB a pop, so a lot of files
>>>>> get
>>>>> flung about.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another item is how much RAM in your system? If your close on memory
>>>>> then
>>>>> Windows might be getting bogged down in the style copy.
>>>>>
>>>>> You might also check your settings for your anti-virus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of them are over-aggressive on checking every file as they are
>>>>> copied.
>>>>> That could slow you down too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Charles Edmonds
>>>>> cje_ByteMeSpammers_@lansrad.com (remove the _ByteMeSpammers_ to email
>>>>> me)
>>>>> www.pagesnip.com - "Print and Save the Web, just the way you want it!"
>>>>> www.clarionproseries.com - "Serious imaging tools for Clarion
>>>>> Developers"
>>>>> www.ezround.com - "Round Corner HTML tables with matching Banners,
>>>>> Buttons
>>>>> and Forms!"
>>>>> www.lansrad.com - "Intelligent Solutions for Universal Problems"
>>>>> www.fotokiss.com - "World's Best Auction Photo Editor"
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[William Patterson]

I looked at the xml styles file again and it looks like it is still trying
to use the shared files and there are none right now.
<?xml version="1.0" standalone="yes" ?>
- <nof:stylesources version="1"
xmlns:nof="http://www.netobjects.com/fusion/styles">
<nof:stylesource class="active" name="Active SiteStyles" active="yes" />
<nof:stylesource class="local" name="Fusion 10 SiteStyles"
path="${shared}\Fusion10SiteStyles" />
<nof:stylesource class="local" name="Fusion 9 SiteStyles"
path="${shared}\Styles" />
<nof:stylesource class="local" name="Classic SiteStyles"
path="${shared}\Classic Styles" />
<nof:stylesource class="local" name="CSS Lib" path="${shared}\CSSLib" />
<nof:stylesource class="online" name="NetObjects Fusion Online SiteStyles"
url="http://netobjects.com/nof/styles/OnlineStyles/OnlineStyles75.xml" />
<nof:stylesource class="online" iscustom="yes" name="SiteStyles Volume 1 -
Sample"
url="http://www.netobjects.com/nof/styles/OnlineStyles/de_siteStyles_vol1.xml"
/>
</nof:stylesources>

Interesting.
"William Patterson" <webmaster@wwmgmt.com> wrote in message
news:g91akl$t701@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>I went to my nof 10 and tried again flipping through the styles and they
>just go click, click just fine. I copied the classic styles folder to the
>shared area that nof 11 uses and it did not change a thing. I am now
>removing all the folder associated with nof 11 under shared area and under
>my documents and then un-install nof 11 and will give it another try. It
>might be that they where not removed the last time I un-installed and when
>re-installing it found the styles to already be there and did not
>re-install them.
> Will up date.
>
>
> "William Patterson" <webmaster@wwmgmt.com> wrote in message
> news:g919dv$s4s5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>I have always done that with ram...I have used pcs since my first commador
>>64. Not trying to be a smart !@#.
>> I think I know what has happened. I looked at the xml file again and it
>> shows it is looking for all the styles in the shared area under the All
>> Users. It looks like nof tried to make copies of the styles it finds on
>> the machine. I see the Classic Styles and NOF 10 styles etc.. If I go
>> look at the styles that work fine under nof 10 they are full of far more
>> objects than what the shared version under nof 11. As an example, the
>> Comic sytle under nof 11 only has images folder, imagePreview.gif and two
>> css files. Under nof 10 it has 8 folders and a index.html file etc..
>> Does this look to you like the installation of the shared area got messed
>> up? Maybe I should delete the nof 11 folder under the shared area of All
>> Users and try again. Either that or copy all the files from nof 10
>> styles over to nof 11 and see what happens.
>> What do you think?
>>
>> "Chuck «BeyondFusion»" <supportno@spambeyondfusion.com> wrote in message
>> news:g918c8$s4s4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>> Check your virtual memory settings.
>>>
>>> It's best (IMHO) to not let Windows manage VM dynamically. Allocate hard
>>> drive space equal to 2 times physical ram as a set size for your paging
>>> file.
>>>
>>> Should improve performance dramatically, especially if you have multiple
>>> apps open.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chuck Joslin
>>> BeyondFusion.com - Your Fusion Community
>>> www.beyondfusion.com
>>>
>>> Register domain names at www.awavedomains.com
>>>
>>> "William Patterson" <webmaster@wwmgmt.com> wrote in message
>>> news:g9182j$s4s3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>>> Well this morning I looked around to find where the nod files etc. are
>>>> kept and found them under my documents. I deleted the whole folder and
>>>> launched nof 11. As I thought it created a new clean folder under my
>>>> documents. Not much changed but I do notice that if I have several
>>>> active styles they flip back and forth very fast. Going and looking at
>>>> a non-active style takes a long time. What is weird is that it is not
>>>> disk access time but processor time. I can see all my drives and they
>>>> are not working while this wait is going on. When it does come up with
>>>> a new style the current style shows up for a second and then the screen
>>>> flashes and the new one then shows up.
>>>> I have a machine with a fast STAT C: Drive and 3 other drives. There
>>>> is about 40 gig left on the C: drive and memory is 2gig. I can have
>>>> multiple apps open since I have a dual monitor system and being running
>>>> nof 10 and going to Photoshop and then several different browsers and
>>>> nof 10 works just fine. I have even opened Dreamweaver 8 to do some
>>>> code work to cut and paste back into nof and it all works just fine. I
>>>> have a laptop with vista on it...ugh! I wonder if I install nof 11 on
>>>> it how it would react. I understand about running as an administrator
>>>> and not running the program from the install message.
>>>> I looked at the XML file for styles that shows where they are located
>>>> and it did not look like it had any extra junk in it. The paths all
>>>> look fine.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the response. I just wonder if anyone else has had this
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> One last question. Is there a way to look at styles without running
>>>> the program? Some sort of utility?
>>>>
>>>> "Charles Edmonds" <cje_ByteMeSpammers_@lansrad.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:15qiranua4zbj$.1iyuaggbv0nal.dlg@40tude.net.. .
>>>>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:44:50 -0700, William Patterson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I re-installed nof 11 using the defaults and the problem is still
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>> Not as bad but in some cases as much as a full 60 seconds to change
>>>>>> styles...using just the classic styles. In the active styles it only
>>>>>> takes
>>>>>> a few seconds to change.
>>>>>> This was installed on a windows XP Pro with SP 2 and in the same
>>>>>> drive and
>>>>>> programs locations as my NOF 10. It runs great.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is weird!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Could there be something in the registery that needs tweaking?
>>>>>
>>>>> No - nothing relevant.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I checked the registery after I un-installed nof 11 and they only
>>>>>> thing left was my
>>>>>> registration information. Nothing about location of files or
>>>>>> anything else.
>>>>>> It did how every find my user file with my test site in it that I
>>>>>> failed to
>>>>>> delete from the user area. I wonder if I should delete that whole
>>>>>> area and
>>>>>> try it again...any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> That might work, but creating a new blank site should give the same
>>>>> effect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also - when is the last time you defragmented your hard drive (and do
>>>>> you
>>>>> have plenty of space)? NOF is around 130 MB a pop, so a lot of files
>>>>> get
>>>>> flung about.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another item is how much RAM in your system? If your close on memory
>>>>> then
>>>>> Windows might be getting bogged down in the style copy.
>>>>>
>>>>> You might also check your settings for your anti-virus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of them are over-aggressive on checking every file as they are
>>>>> copied.
>>>>> That could slow you down too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Charles Edmonds
>>>>> cje_ByteMeSpammers_@lansrad.com (remove the _ByteMeSpammers_ to email
>>>>> me)
>>>>> www.pagesnip.com - "Print and Save the Web, just the way you want it!"
>>>>> www.clarionproseries.com - "Serious imaging tools for Clarion
>>>>> Developers"
>>>>> www.ezround.com - "Round Corner HTML tables with matching Banners,
>>>>> Buttons
>>>>> and Forms!"
>>>>> www.lansrad.com - "Intelligent Solutions for Universal Problems"
>>>>> www.fotokiss.com - "World's Best Auction Photo Editor"
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[William Patterson]

I noticed that if there is a change to the xml file under nof 11 folder it
changes the folder under my documents.
I guess installing like nof 10 is not the answer. I would think if there
was that big a difference between vista and xp or any other os they would
have had that selection asked during install.
Will give it one more try using strictly the defaults and cleaning out all
folders and files.


"William Patterson" <webmaster@wwmgmt.com> wrote in message
news:g91ch8$s4s9@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>I looked at the xml styles file again and it looks like it is still trying
>to use the shared files and there are none right now.
> <?xml version="1.0" standalone="yes" ?>
> - <nof:stylesources version="1"
> xmlns:nof="http://www.netobjects.com/fusion/styles">
> <nof:stylesource class="active" name="Active SiteStyles" active="yes" />
> <nof:stylesource class="local" name="Fusion 10 SiteStyles"
> path="${shared}\Fusion10SiteStyles" />
> <nof:stylesource class="local" name="Fusion 9 SiteStyles"
> path="${shared}\Styles" />
> <nof:stylesource class="local" name="Classic SiteStyles"
> path="${shared}\Classic Styles" />
> <nof:stylesource class="local" name="CSS Lib" path="${shared}\CSSLib" />
> <nof:stylesource class="online" name="NetObjects Fusion Online
> SiteStyles"
> url="http://netobjects.com/nof/styles/OnlineStyles/OnlineStyles75.xml" />
> <nof:stylesource class="online" iscustom="yes" name="SiteStyles Volume
> 1 - Sample"
> url="http://www.netobjects.com/nof/styles/OnlineStyles/de_siteStyles_vol1.xml"
> />
> </nof:stylesources>
>
> Interesting.
> "William Patterson" <webmaster@wwmgmt.com> wrote in message
> news:g91akl$t701@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>I went to my nof 10 and tried again flipping through the styles and they
>>just go click, click just fine. I copied the classic styles folder to the
>>shared area that nof 11 uses and it did not change a thing. I am now
>>removing all the folder associated with nof 11 under shared area and under
>>my documents and then un-install nof 11 and will give it another try. It
>>might be that they where not removed the last time I un-installed and when
>>re-installing it found the styles to already be there and did not
>>re-install them.
>> Will up date.
>>
>>
>> "William Patterson" <webmaster@wwmgmt.com> wrote in message
>> news:g919dv$s4s5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>>I have always done that with ram...I have used pcs since my first
>>>commador 64. Not trying to be a smart !@#.
>>> I think I know what has happened. I looked at the xml file again and it
>>> shows it is looking for all the styles in the shared area under the All
>>> Users. It looks like nof tried to make copies of the styles it finds on
>>> the machine. I see the Classic Styles and NOF 10 styles etc.. If I go
>>> look at the styles that work fine under nof 10 they are full of far more
>>> objects than what the shared version under nof 11. As an example, the
>>> Comic sytle under nof 11 only has images folder, imagePreview.gif and
>>> two css files. Under nof 10 it has 8 folders and a index.html file etc..
>>> Does this look to you like the installation of the shared area got
>>> messed up? Maybe I should delete the nof 11 folder under the shared
>>> area of All Users and try again. Either that or copy all the files from
>>> nof 10 styles over to nof 11 and see what happens.
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> "Chuck «BeyondFusion»" <supportno@spambeyondfusion.com> wrote in message
>>> news:g918c8$s4s4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>>> Check your virtual memory settings.
>>>>
>>>> It's best (IMHO) to not let Windows manage VM dynamically. Allocate
>>>> hard drive space equal to 2 times physical ram as a set size for your
>>>> paging file.
>>>>
>>>> Should improve performance dramatically, especially if you have
>>>> multiple apps open.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Chuck Joslin
>>>> BeyondFusion.com - Your Fusion Community
>>>> www.beyondfusion.com
>>>>
>>>> Register domain names at www.awavedomains.com
>>>>
>>>> "William Patterson" <webmaster@wwmgmt.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:g9182j$s4s3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>>>> Well this morning I looked around to find where the nod files etc. are
>>>>> kept and found them under my documents. I deleted the whole folder
>>>>> and launched nof 11. As I thought it created a new clean folder under
>>>>> my documents. Not much changed but I do notice that if I have several
>>>>> active styles they flip back and forth very fast. Going and looking
>>>>> at a non-active style takes a long time. What is weird is that it is
>>>>> not disk access time but processor time. I can see all my drives and
>>>>> they are not working while this wait is going on. When it does come
>>>>> up with a new style the current style shows up for a second and then
>>>>> the screen flashes and the new one then shows up.
>>>>> I have a machine with a fast STAT C: Drive and 3 other drives. There
>>>>> is about 40 gig left on the C: drive and memory is 2gig. I can have
>>>>> multiple apps open since I have a dual monitor system and being
>>>>> running nof 10 and going to Photoshop and then several different
>>>>> browsers and nof 10 works just fine. I have even opened Dreamweaver 8
>>>>> to do some code work to cut and paste back into nof and it all works
>>>>> just fine. I have a laptop with vista on it...ugh! I wonder if I
>>>>> install nof 11 on it how it would react. I understand about running as
>>>>> an administrator and not running the program from the install message.
>>>>> I looked at the XML file for styles that shows where they are located
>>>>> and it did not look like it had any extra junk in it. The paths all
>>>>> look fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the response. I just wonder if anyone else has had this
>>>>> problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> One last question. Is there a way to look at styles without running
>>>>> the program? Some sort of utility?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Charles Edmonds" <cje_ByteMeSpammers_@lansrad.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:15qiranua4zbj$.1iyuaggbv0nal.dlg@40tude.net.. .
>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:44:50 -0700, William Patterson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I re-installed nof 11 using the defaults and the problem is still
>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>> Not as bad but in some cases as much as a full 60 seconds to change
>>>>>>> styles...using just the classic styles. In the active styles it
>>>>>>> only takes
>>>>>>> a few seconds to change.
>>>>>>> This was installed on a windows XP Pro with SP 2 and in the same
>>>>>>> drive and
>>>>>>> programs locations as my NOF 10. It runs great.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is weird!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could there be something in the registery that needs tweaking?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No - nothing relevant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I checked the registery after I un-installed nof 11 and they only
>>>>>>> thing left was my
>>>>>>> registration information. Nothing about location of files or
>>>>>>> anything else.
>>>>>>> It did how every find my user file with my test site in it that I
>>>>>>> failed to
>>>>>>> delete from the user area. I wonder if I should delete that whole
>>>>>>> area and
>>>>>>> try it again...any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That might work, but creating a new blank site should give the same
>>>>>> effect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also - when is the last time you defragmented your hard drive (and do
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> have plenty of space)? NOF is around 130 MB a pop, so a lot of files
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> flung about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another item is how much RAM in your system? If your close on memory
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> Windows might be getting bogged down in the style copy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You might also check your settings for your anti-virus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of them are over-aggressive on checking every file as they are
>>>>>> copied.
>>>>>> That could slow you down too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Charles
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> email me)
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[William Patterson]

Ran the installation after a clean re-boot and making sure everything was
quiet. Same problem...tried importing styles from other areas and the same
problem....THEN I looked at my Processes under task manager and see that
almost half of the processor is dealing with the Lsass.exe which is windows
security.
So with that being found is there a setting to tell it that Fusion 11 is OK
? I have never had this problem before and it sure doesn't do this with nof
10.

Please let me know....this is not vista but xp pro

"William Patterson" <webmaster@wwmgmt.com> wrote in message
news:g8upr0$k2d1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>I have posted a few questions about styles taking forever to view but no
>one has responded. I decided to try something and was wondering if anyone
>had experienced this. I orginially installed the NOF 11 with the program
>on one drive and the user files etc.. in another drive. It all works fine
>but the to view any of the styles it takes 77 seconds for them to show up
>and when I change to another style it takes the same amount of
>time...doesn't even matter if I have viewed it before.
> I opened NOF 10 and it takes about a second for the same operation.
> As a result I un-installed NOF 11.
> I am going to re-install it allowing it to take all the defaults which
> means putting everything under programs under my C: drive and the
> resulting working files where it defaults to.
> Questions:
> Has anyone had this same problem?
> Does anyone think the way I installed this was the problem? I just don't
> think it is.
> Any response would be appreciated. I want to start using the xhtml
> feature.
>

[Gary Dumbleton]

Lsass.exe is used for logon and some security stuff, however, it may
also be evidence of a virus on your system

http://ask-leo.com/what_are_lsass_ls...o_if_i_am.html

There is also many more references of it being virus activity.

I have never experienced this and have never heard of it in the groups.

I would say that it is something specific to your system.

Gary


William Patterson wrote:
> Ran the installation after a clean re-boot and making sure everything was
> quiet. Same problem...tried importing styles from other areas and the same
> problem....THEN I looked at my Processes under task manager and see that
> almost half of the processor is dealing with the Lsass.exe which is windows
> security.
> So with that being found is there a setting to tell it that Fusion 11 is OK
> ? I have never had this problem before and it sure doesn't do this with nof
> 10.
>
> Please let me know....this is not vista but xp pro
>
> "William Patterson" <webmaster@wwmgmt.com> wrote in message
> news:g8upr0$k2d1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> I have posted a few questions about styles taking forever to view but no
>> one has responded. I decided to try something and was wondering if anyone
>> had experienced this. I orginially installed the NOF 11 with the program
>> on one drive and the user files etc.. in another drive. It all works fine
>> but the to view any of the styles it takes 77 seconds for them to show up
>> and when I change to another style it takes the same amount of
>> time...doesn't even matter if I have viewed it before.
>> I opened NOF 10 and it takes about a second for the same operation.
>> As a result I un-installed NOF 11.
>> I am going to re-install it allowing it to take all the defaults which
>> means putting everything under programs under my C: drive and the
>> resulting working files where it defaults to.
>> Questions:
>> Has anyone had this same problem?
>> Does anyone think the way I installed this was the problem? I just don't
>> think it is.
>> Any response would be appreciated. I want to start using the xhtml
>> feature.
>>
>
>

[Derek]

Not sure how useful this comment will be, but...

I had a problem on a work laptop a while ago which gave me a similar
problem (lsass absorbing at least half the CPU). My tech guy eventually
tracked it down as a partially uninstalled service (VPN related) which
was effectively running around in little circles. This had a knock-on
effect for some other progams on the system. The real pain was that the
uninstaller had gone (not in Add/Remove under control panel), but an
attempt to reinstall (to deinstall) the code failed because it thought
there was a partial install under way. I love Windows %-)

I think the final get out was to identify the service, bring Win up in
safe mode to allow the service to be set as disabled, reboot the machine
and then go edit the registry. Next step would have been a reinstall of
Windows (XP Pro w/SP2 by the way).

After all that ramble, I think the point I was trying to make is that
it's probably something in your system, as per Gary's comment, rather
than NOF per se.

HTH,

Derek.

William Patterson wrote:
> Ran the installation after a clean re-boot and making sure everything was
> quiet. Same problem...tried importing styles from other areas and the same
> problem....THEN I looked at my Processes under task manager and see that
> almost half of the processor is dealing with the Lsass.exe which is windows
> security.
> So with that being found is there a setting to tell it that Fusion 11 is OK
> ? I have never had this problem before and it sure doesn't do this with nof
> 10.
>
> Please let me know....this is not vista but xp pro
>
> "William Patterson" <webmaster@wwmgmt.com> wrote in message
> news:g8upr0$k2d1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> I have posted a few questions about styles taking forever to view but no
>> one has responded. I decided to try something and was wondering if anyone
>> had experienced this. I orginially installed the NOF 11 with the program
>> on one drive and the user files etc.. in another drive. It all works fine
>> but the to view any of the styles it takes 77 seconds for them to show up
>> and when I change to another style it takes the same amount of
>> time...doesn't even matter if I have viewed it before.
>> I opened NOF 10 and it takes about a second for the same operation.
>> As a result I un-installed NOF 11.
>> I am going to re-install it allowing it to take all the defaults which
>> means putting everything under programs under my C: drive and the
>> resulting working files where it defaults to.
>> Questions:
>> Has anyone had this same problem?
>> Does anyone think the way I installed this was the problem? I just don't
>> think it is.
>> Any response would be appreciated. I want to start using the xhtml
>> feature.
>>
>
>