Firefox3 and Fonts

[sam]

We have always controlled the display of our pages by using px units with
our fonts. In both IE7 and FF2, this keeps our pages as we designed them. In
FF3, there is an option under Tools/Options/Content/Fonts/Advanced that
allows the visitor to use his/her configured fonts for the browser instead
of ours. No such capability in IE7. Is that the way it is now with Firefox?
And with MAC?

sam

[Twayne]

> We have always controlled the display of our pages by using px units
> with our fonts. In both IE7 and FF2, this keeps our pages as we
> designed them. In FF3, there is an option under
> Tools/Options/Content/Fonts/Advanced that allows the visitor to use
> his/her configured fonts for the browser instead of ours. No such
> capability in IE7. Is that the way it is now with Firefox? And with
> MAC?
> sam

Not sure what you mean, but ... all of them allow you to use your own
color set or that of the page design. FF3 included. Thus I must not
understand the question maybe?

Twayne

[Nancy O]

<We have always controlled the display of our pages by using px units with
our fonts>

This works to a limited extent in IE6 only. All other browsers permit
increased or decreased text size with Ctrl++ or Ctrl+-.

Unfortunately, you cannot control end user settings in browsers and that's
the way it should be.

Use web friendly fonts that are common to win/mac systems.
http://www.ampsoft.net/webdesign-l/WindowsMacFonts.html


Nancy O.
www.alt-web.com/Tutorials/
NOF Tips & Tutorials






"sam" <sorab@cox.net> wrote in message
news:gb94u0$lpe2@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> We have always controlled the display of our pages by using px units with
> our fonts. In both IE7 and FF2, this keeps our pages as we designed them.
No such capability in IE7. Is that the way it is now with Firefox? In
> FF3, there is an option under Tools/Options/Content/Fonts/Advanced that
> allows the visitor to use his/her configured fonts for the browser instead
> of ours.
> And with MAC?
>
> sam
>
>

[sam]

No, I don't really agree and a number of other web developers feel the
same... which is why there is a trend toward complete Flash sites, which is
unfortunate, as well as the whole brouhaha over embedding fonts in a web
page.

If, in effect, a great deal of effort and creativity has gone into the
color/fonts/display on a web page, it is a shame that it can be smushed away
by a visitor's settings. If the question revolves around accessibility,
there other, efficient ways to provide this capability rather than the
mishandling of a browser's font/color settings.

(BTW--I'm aware of the fact that you can only specify fonts that exist on a
viewer's machine without using graphics-contained text (jpg, etc) or
embedding them in Flash).

sam

[Ian]

Flash will give you the control you need over the surfers browsers but,
unless you are very clever, the site will be invisible to search engines.
Still I guess that's the trade-off

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"sam" <sorab@cox.net> wrote in message
news:gbbqgp$1cv1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> No, I don't really agree and a number of other web developers feel the
> same... which is why there is a trend toward complete Flash sites, which
> is unfortunate, as well as the whole brouhaha over embedding fonts in a
> web page.
>
> If, in effect, a great deal of effort and creativity has gone into the
> color/fonts/display on a web page, it is a shame that it can be smushed
> away by a visitor's settings. If the question revolves around
> accessibility, there other, efficient ways to provide this capability
> rather than the mishandling of a browser's font/color settings.
>
> (BTW--I'm aware of the fact that you can only specify fonts that exist on
> a viewer's machine without using graphics-contained text (jpg, etc) or
> embedding them in Flash).
>
> sam
>

[Nancy O]

All I can say is if you want complete control over the appearance of your
pages, publish them in PDF.

<...a great deal of effort and creativity has gone into the
color/fonts/display on a web page, it is a shame that it can be smushed away
by a visitor's settings. >

I can appreciate that. It's a challenge to build sites that hold up under
different conditions. Color blindness is a fairly common problem. Being
able to toggle background and font colors to see them better is a big deal
to people who see some colors well and not others. Meanwhile, screen sizes
are getting smaller and bigger at the same time. Your 16 pixel font may
look good to you on your system. But how will it look on an iPhone or, at
the other end of the spectrum, on a 3-panel wide display? So you see, the
web must be user-centric if for no other reason than to protect users from
ego-centric designers.


--Nancy O.
Alt-Web Design & Publishing
www.alt-web.com


"sam" <sorab@cox.net> wrote in message
news:gbbqgp$1cv1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> No, I don't really agree and a number of other web developers feel the
> same... which is why there is a trend toward complete Flash sites, which
is
> unfortunate, as well as the whole brouhaha over embedding fonts in a web
> page.
>
> If, in effect, a great deal of effort and creativity has gone into the
> color/fonts/display on a web page, it is a shame that it can be smushed
away
> by a visitor's settings. If the question revolves around accessibility,
> there other, efficient ways to provide this capability rather than the
> mishandling of a browser's font/color settings.
>
> (BTW--I'm aware of the fact that you can only specify fonts that exist on
a
> viewer's machine without using graphics-contained text (jpg, etc) or
> embedding them in Flash).
>
> sam
>
>