CSS bullets

[Sheila Hoffman]

Thanks Carl. That question gets answered all the time. The short answer is I
design the look in photoshop then cut slices and place them appropriately in
master borders and as body background so when I'm in NOF all I have to do is
place/format text on the pages and configure the navigation.

Sheila

[Allison Moore]

> And, I should be able to tab and have it indent further
> and switch to a different bullet (optional). But when I click unordered list
> button again it doesn't display as indented. So then I hit it again. When I
> local publish it is way indented from hitting the button too many times.

What you're describing sounds like it's related to the
problems I've been having with bullets. Wrapping is an
issue. Indention is an issue. Getting the bullet gifs to
appear definitely is. Sometimes, I can see them in Page
Design view, but they don't appear in the Preview or when
locally published. Sometimes, they appear when viewed in
IE6, but not in FF or Opera. Other times, they don't appear
at all, anywhere.

And, when the bullet images have disappeared from Page
Design view, I can usually get them back by closing and
reopening v10. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean they'll
publish. Today, I don't see them in Page Design, but they're
publishing.

Then there's the issue of the order in which I specify the
components that are supposed to make the bullets appear as
they should. To wit:

- the Li tag
- the bullet list icon
- the custom style that specifies the gif image that's the
bullet "character".

I'm not sure I've hit on the right sequence yet. They all
need to be included, but turning on the bullet list icon can
replace the gif image with the default black dot and/or
change the idention.

Take a look at the attached collection of screen captures,
particularly the ILHIMA bullet at the top of the list.
AFAIK, the only difference between that paragraph and the
ones below it is that the bullet icon is on for ILHIMA.

Allison

[Allison Moore]

Sorry, I hit send before I attached the image.

> Take a look at the attached collection of screen captures, particularly
> the ILHIMA bullet at the top of the list. AFAIK, the only difference
> between that paragraph and the ones below it is that the bullet icon is
> on for ILHIMA.
>
> Allison
>

[Sheila Hoffman]

Interesting Allison. I hadn't realize it's a known issue. You didn't include
the attachment. I'd like to see that.
Thanks!
Sheila

[Allison Moore]

> Take a look at the attached collection of screen captures, particularly
> the ILHIMA bullet at the top of the list. AFAIK, the only difference
> between that paragraph and the ones below it is that the bullet icon is
> on for ILHIMA.

Ok, following on from what Sheila reported about the
indention, I clicked the Decrease Indent icon on each bullet
paragraph. The bullet paragraphs are now displaying properly
in IE6, Opera and Firefox.

Oy.

- Later -

Guess I oyed too soon. The bullet paragraphs are now
aligning properly in all three browsers. However, to get the
bullet gifs to actually appear in the published site, I have
to close and reopen NOF 10, then publish before I do much of
anything else. I might manage one small change before the
bullets disappear, but that's all.

Reoptimizing also makes them disappear.

Allison

[Sheila Hoffman]

Oy is right! This is nuts!
So I have typically editing my styles in the site style view. I know it's
old school but I'm old. I just starting trying to edit this in the Manage
Styles and that's helped some. I have a better, though still not correct
version reposted now to www.hoffmangraphics.com/~kamini. I'm no longer
updating the old one. So I still can't get the wrap to align but at least
it's better. I'm completely afraid to try using my own bullet instead of the
square. I'd like the square to be orange but I belive the only way to do
that is using a graphic. Is there a way to assign a color to it in CSS?

I do not get clear to work, ever, it seems. I'll keep fussing with this, but
not now. It's a sunny Friday afternoon.
Have a great weekend.
Sheila

[Nancy O]

If you change the UL font-color to orange, your bullet will be orange as
well as the text.

Using the method I posted earlier, bullet text lined up properly for me. I
don't know for sure, but it seems like you (and Allison) have competing
styles operating in your sites.

I had this problem on an older site where some pages had somehow developed
unique styles of their own and others did not. What I wanted was all pages
to use the Site wide styles from the Styles folder. Finding no other way to
do this, I went in to manage styles for each page. Displayed all available
styles and deleted unwanted site styles. This was tedious as heck on 178
pages but it cured the problem.

--Nancy


"Sheila Hoffman" <Sheila@hoffmanNOSPAMgraphics.com> wrote in message
news:A921.1177111086.258@gfwebforum.com...
> Oy is right! This is nuts!
> So I have typically editing my styles in the site style view. I know it's
> old school but I'm old. I just starting trying to edit this in the Manage
> Styles and that's helped some. I have a better, though still not correct
> version reposted now to www.hoffmangraphics.com/~kamini. I'm no longer
> updating the old one. So I still can't get the wrap to align but at least
> it's better. I'm completely afraid to try using my own bullet instead of
the
> square. I'd like the square to be orange but I belive the only way to do
> that is using a graphic. Is there a way to assign a color to it in CSS?
>
> I do not get clear to work, ever, it seems. I'll keep fussing with this,
but
> not now. It's a sunny Friday afternoon.
> Have a great weekend.
> Sheila
>
>
>
>

[Allison Moore]

> it seems like you (and Allison) have competing
> styles operating in your sites.

So far, I've found nothing that would seem to be competing.
Rather, I've had no end of trouble with text that flatly
refuses to take a new style. In some cases, I haven't been
able to enter a return to insert a paragraph. At the moment,
I'm guessing that the paragraph may have been inserted, but
didn't look like it because of the indention issue. That's
only a guess because I couldn't see the return, and I can't
investigate further right now.

In what may be a related issue, I just migrated a friend's
simple, 6-page, 1 MB site to NOF 10. The v8 template came in
without a hitch. Made some minor updates last night, none of
which affected site structure or navigation. Initially
looked good when locally published, but various buttons in
the navbar failed to display when the site was uploaded. The
image files were all present and accounted for. They just
didn't necessarily display. Moreover, the missing buttons
varied according to the page.

In v9, I would get some missing buttons in Opera, but they
all showed properly in IE6 and FF. Not so this time. When a
button was missing, it was missing in all 3 browsers, and it
might or might not show when the page was accessed on my
local drive.

I had to reoptimize and publish locally over and over, page
by page, until I had a full set of pages in which the
buttons would show. And yes, I repeatedly emptied browser
caches, and deleted the Preview and Local Publish folders.

Allison

[Sheila Hoffman]

Allison...did you ever figure yours out?
I finally got mine working through trial and error.
Nancy, did you post a way I can make my square bullets a color WITHOUT the
text also being that color? I thought you did but cannot find it now. Or is
there no way to do that?

Thanks all!
Sheila

[Nancy O]

Use background images as bullets with plenty of padding.

http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/vertical05.htm


--Nancy


"Sheila Hoffman" <Sheila@hoffmanNOSPAMgraphics.com> wrote in message
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> Allison...did you ever figure yours out?
> I finally got mine working through trial and error.
> Nancy, did you post a way I can make my square bullets a color WITHOUT the
> text also being that color? I thought you did but cannot find it now. Or
is
> there no way to do that?
>
> Thanks all!
> Sheila
>
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