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  1. #1
    Guest

    Default Dynamic vs Fixed Layouts

    Hello stupid me again. lol I read the posts for Overlapping text boxes in
    Foxfire and it is sorta the similar situation I have. I was forced to use
    the Fixed Layout to get my site to show up the way I wanted it to look
    because when I try to use Dynamic all my items are thrown drastically across
    the page and are not where I intended them to be at all.
    Basically if somone views my webpage I sometimes end up having to tell them
    to change their Text size to Medium and it usually looks correct. I would
    love to have it just work the way it is supose to instead of people having
    to change their browser text size to be able to browse the site. Like I said
    before I am not up on my "Tech Talk" so the simplest of explanations would
    be appreciated. My current website is done with NOF8 but am also currently
    working with NOF10 to redo my website from scratch. But I can't seem to get
    the Dynamic layout working properly with either.
    Sincerely befuddled,
    Gail
    http://www.goodiesbygail.com



  2. #2
    Nancy O
    Guest

    Default Re: Dynamic vs Fixed Layouts

    Hi Gail,
    First off, "site look funny?" is unprofessional. Fixed layouts do not
    render well in all browsers. You may think it looks ok but it's very hard
    to control how your page looks with different text and screen sizes when you
    use fixed layouts.

    Dynamic layouts are much easier to work with as long as you do not overlap
    or 'layer' objects. If you do, your page will spread out across the screen,
    as you described.

    If you have trouble aligning objects on the page, use text boxes, tables &
    layout regions. These tutorials may give you some ideas.

    Images & Text http://alt-web.com/Tutorials/imagetext.html

    Layout Regions http://alt-web.com/Tutorials/layouts.html

    --Nancy
    http://alt-web.com/Tutorials



    <Gail> wrote in message news:f1iij6$m883@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > Hello stupid me again. lol I read the posts for Overlapping text boxes in
    > Foxfire and it is sorta the similar situation I have. I was forced to use
    > the Fixed Layout to get my site to show up the way I wanted it to look
    > because when I try to use Dynamic all my items are thrown drastically

    across
    > the page and are not where I intended them to be at all.
    > Basically if somone views my webpage I sometimes end up having to tell

    them
    > to change their Text size to Medium and it usually looks correct. I would
    > love to have it just work the way it is supose to instead of people having
    > to change their browser text size to be able to browse the site. Like I

    said
    > before I am not up on my "Tech Talk" so the simplest of explanations would
    > be appreciated. My current website is done with NOF8 but am also currently
    > working with NOF10 to redo my website from scratch. But I can't seem to

    get
    > the Dynamic layout working properly with either.
    > Sincerely befuddled,
    > Gail
    > http://www.goodiesbygail.com
    >
    >




  3. #3
    Richard Wayne Garganta
    Guest

    Default Re: Dynamic vs Fixed Layouts

    Gail wrote:
    > Hello stupid me again. lol I read the posts for Overlapping text boxes in
    > Foxfire and it is sorta the similar situation I have. I was forced to use
    > the Fixed Layout to get my site to show up the way I wanted it to look
    > because when I try to use Dynamic all my items are thrown drastically across
    > the page and are not where I intended them to be at all.
    > Basically if somone views my webpage I sometimes end up having to tell them
    > to change their Text size to Medium and it usually looks correct. I would
    > love to have it just work the way it is supose to instead of people having
    > to change their browser text size to be able to browse the site. Like I said
    > before I am not up on my "Tech Talk" so the simplest of explanations would
    > be appreciated. My current website is done with NOF8 but am also currently
    > working with NOF10 to redo my website from scratch. But I can't seem to get
    > the Dynamic layout working properly with either.
    > Sincerely befuddled,
    > Gail
    > http://www.goodiesbygail.com
    >
    >

    Nice stuff Gail and it showed up fine in FF for me.

  4. #4
    Guest

    Default Re: Dynamic vs Fixed Layouts


    "Richard Wayne Garganta" <richinri@cox.net> wrote in message
    news:f1j514$oh56@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > Gail wrote:
    >> Hello stupid me again. lol I read the posts for Overlapping text boxes
    >> in Foxfire and it is sorta the similar situation I have. I was forced to
    >> use the Fixed Layout to get my site to show up the way I wanted it to
    >> look because when I try to use Dynamic all my items are thrown
    >> drastically across the page and are not where I intended them to be at
    >> all.
    >> Basically if somone views my webpage I sometimes end up having to tell
    >> them to change their Text size to Medium and it usually looks correct. I
    >> would love to have it just work the way it is supose to instead of people
    >> having to change their browser text size to be able to browse the site.
    >> Like I said before I am not up on my "Tech Talk" so the simplest of
    >> explanations would be appreciated. My current website is done with NOF8
    >> but am also currently working with NOF10 to redo my website from scratch.
    >> But I can't seem to get the Dynamic layout working properly with either.
    >> Sincerely befuddled,
    >> Gail
    >> http://www.goodiesbygail.com
    >>
    >>

    > Nice stuff Gail and it showed up fine in FF for me.



    Thank you so much. Sometimes it looks good and sometimes it doesn't. When it
    doesn't I usually hear about it and I have to tell them to try and change
    their text size.
    Kind Regards,
    Gail



  5. #5
    Guest

    Default Re: Dynamic vs Fixed Layouts

    Thank you I will surely be checking those out. I have been trying to
    eliminate using "Fixed" and only being a "Dynamic" user. I do not overlap
    any of my objects or text when making the site that is why I didn't
    understand why my stuff shifted so much.
    My Goal is to be able to get rid of the "Site Look Funny" Text once I get to
    check out those Tutorials.
    Thanks so much again for your time!
    Best Wishes,
    Gail

    "Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
    news:f1j2b4$oh55@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > Hi Gail,
    > First off, "site look funny?" is unprofessional. Fixed layouts do not
    > render well in all browsers. You may think it looks ok but it's very hard
    > to control how your page looks with different text and screen sizes when
    > you
    > use fixed layouts.
    >
    > Dynamic layouts are much easier to work with as long as you do not overlap
    > or 'layer' objects. If you do, your page will spread out across the
    > screen,
    > as you described.
    >
    > If you have trouble aligning objects on the page, use text boxes, tables &
    > layout regions. These tutorials may give you some ideas.
    >
    > Images & Text http://alt-web.com/Tutorials/imagetext.html
    >
    > Layout Regions http://alt-web.com/Tutorials/layouts.html
    >
    > --Nancy
    > http://alt-web.com/Tutorials
    >
    >
    >
    > <Gail> wrote in message
    > news:f1iij6$m883@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> Hello stupid me again. lol I read the posts for Overlapping text boxes
    >> in
    >> Foxfire and it is sorta the similar situation I have. I was forced to use
    >> the Fixed Layout to get my site to show up the way I wanted it to look
    >> because when I try to use Dynamic all my items are thrown drastically

    > across
    >> the page and are not where I intended them to be at all.
    >> Basically if somone views my webpage I sometimes end up having to tell

    > them
    >> to change their Text size to Medium and it usually looks correct. I would
    >> love to have it just work the way it is supose to instead of people
    >> having
    >> to change their browser text size to be able to browse the site. Like I

    > said
    >> before I am not up on my "Tech Talk" so the simplest of explanations
    >> would
    >> be appreciated. My current website is done with NOF8 but am also
    >> currently
    >> working with NOF10 to redo my website from scratch. But I can't seem to

    > get
    >> the Dynamic layout working properly with either.
    >> Sincerely befuddled,
    >> Gail
    >> http://www.goodiesbygail.com
    >>
    >>

    >
    >




  6. #6
    Peter Cranfield
    Guest

    Default Re: Dynamic vs Fixed Layouts

    Hi Gail

    If you set your text size by pixels, instead of by relativee size, then in
    IE the text will stay the same size and the 'funny' look will disappear. You
    will find that each font needs a pixel size that suits its shape, ie 10pt
    Tahoma is 13pixels. This is not as effective in FF, but it does make a real
    difference.

    You can use a dynamic site, but where you need to put overlapping objects
    use a fixed layout region. I find that works quite well.

    Hope this is of help.

    Peter
    <Gail> wrote in message news:f1jhus$plh5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >
    > "Richard Wayne Garganta" <richinri@cox.net> wrote in message
    > news:f1j514$oh56@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> Gail wrote:
    >>> Hello stupid me again. lol I read the posts for Overlapping text boxes
    >>> in Foxfire and it is sorta the similar situation I have. I was forced to
    >>> use the Fixed Layout to get my site to show up the way I wanted it to
    >>> look because when I try to use Dynamic all my items are thrown
    >>> drastically across the page and are not where I intended them to be at
    >>> all.
    >>> Basically if somone views my webpage I sometimes end up having to tell
    >>> them to change their Text size to Medium and it usually looks correct. I
    >>> would love to have it just work the way it is supose to instead of
    >>> people having to change their browser text size to be able to browse the
    >>> site. Like I said before I am not up on my "Tech Talk" so the simplest
    >>> of explanations would be appreciated. My current website is done with
    >>> NOF8 but am also currently working with NOF10 to redo my website from
    >>> scratch. But I can't seem to get the Dynamic layout working properly
    >>> with either.
    >>> Sincerely befuddled,
    >>> Gail
    >>> http://www.goodiesbygail.com
    >>>
    >>>

    >> Nice stuff Gail and it showed up fine in FF for me.

    >
    >
    > Thank you so much. Sometimes it looks good and sometimes it doesn't. When
    > it doesn't I usually hear about it and I have to tell them to try and
    > change their text size.
    > Kind Regards,
    > Gail
    >




  7. #7
    Nancy O
    Guest

    Default Re: Dynamic vs Fixed Layouts

    If everyone in the world used the same browser and screen size, web design
    would be simple.

    Peter is right. If you use pixel sized text, you get better cross browser
    rendering (IE, FF, Safari-Mac, etc.) But fixed sized text poses a
    readability problem for people with less than perfect eyesight and/or high
    resolution displays.

    Micah's shiny new laptop probably shipped with a default screen resolution
    setting of 1600 x 1200. Ever try to view 13 px text on a high res display?
    It's almost impossible. That's what it's like for seniors too. So if your
    target audience includes seniors or people with neat new laptops, you should
    give them options to have bigger text size if they need it. And that
    requires building your pages with plenty of wriggle room.

    --Nancy

    "Peter Cranfield" <pcranfield@standcot.globalnet.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:f1js36$plh6@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > Hi Gail
    >
    > If you set your text size by pixels, instead of by relativee size, then in
    > IE the text will stay the same size and the 'funny' look will disappear.

    You
    > will find that each font needs a pixel size that suits its shape, ie 10pt
    > Tahoma is 13pixels. This is not as effective in FF, but it does make a

    real
    > difference.
    >
    > You can use a dynamic site, but where you need to put overlapping objects
    > use a fixed layout region. I find that works quite well.
    >
    > Hope this is of help.
    >
    > Peter
    > <Gail> wrote in message

    news:f1jhus$plh5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > >
    > > "Richard Wayne Garganta" <richinri@cox.net> wrote in message
    > > news:f1j514$oh56@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > >> Gail wrote:
    > >>> Hello stupid me again. lol I read the posts for Overlapping text

    boxes
    > >>> in Foxfire and it is sorta the similar situation I have. I was forced

    to
    > >>> use the Fixed Layout to get my site to show up the way I wanted it to
    > >>> look because when I try to use Dynamic all my items are thrown
    > >>> drastically across the page and are not where I intended them to be at
    > >>> all.
    > >>> Basically if somone views my webpage I sometimes end up having to tell
    > >>> them to change their Text size to Medium and it usually looks correct.

    I
    > >>> would love to have it just work the way it is supose to instead of
    > >>> people having to change their browser text size to be able to browse

    the
    > >>> site. Like I said before I am not up on my "Tech Talk" so the simplest
    > >>> of explanations would be appreciated. My current website is done with
    > >>> NOF8 but am also currently working with NOF10 to redo my website from
    > >>> scratch. But I can't seem to get the Dynamic layout working properly
    > >>> with either.
    > >>> Sincerely befuddled,
    > >>> Gail
    > >>> http://www.goodiesbygail.com
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >> Nice stuff Gail and it showed up fine in FF for me.

    > >
    > >
    > > Thank you so much. Sometimes it looks good and sometimes it doesn't.

    When
    > > it doesn't I usually hear about it and I have to tell them to try and
    > > change their text size.
    > > Kind Regards,
    > > Gail
    > >

    >
    >




  8. #8
    Micah Klesick
    Guest

    Default Re: Dynamic vs Fixed Layouts

    Actually, the new laptop is 1440 by 900. <g>
    for my text, I normally use 12 pt.

    --
    Micah Klesick
    www.learnNOF.creationtidbits.com
    Flash video and PDF tutorials on
    NetObjects Fusion

    -
    "Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
    news:f1l5m9$1p54@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > If everyone in the world used the same browser and screen size, web design
    > would be simple.
    >
    > Peter is right. If you use pixel sized text, you get better cross browser
    > rendering (IE, FF, Safari-Mac, etc.) But fixed sized text poses a
    > readability problem for people with less than perfect eyesight and/or high
    > resolution displays.
    >
    > Micah's shiny new laptop probably shipped with a default screen resolution
    > setting of 1600 x 1200. Ever try to view 13 px text on a high res
    > display?
    > It's almost impossible. That's what it's like for seniors too. So if
    > your
    > target audience includes seniors or people with neat new laptops, you
    > should
    > give them options to have bigger text size if they need it. And that
    > requires building your pages with plenty of wriggle room.
    >
    > --Nancy
    >
    > "Peter Cranfield" <pcranfield@standcot.globalnet.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:f1js36$plh6@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> Hi Gail
    >>
    >> If you set your text size by pixels, instead of by relativee size, then
    >> in
    >> IE the text will stay the same size and the 'funny' look will disappear.

    > You
    >> will find that each font needs a pixel size that suits its shape, ie 10pt
    >> Tahoma is 13pixels. This is not as effective in FF, but it does make a

    > real
    >> difference.
    >>
    >> You can use a dynamic site, but where you need to put overlapping objects
    >> use a fixed layout region. I find that works quite well.
    >>
    >> Hope this is of help.
    >>
    >> Peter
    >> <Gail> wrote in message

    > news:f1jhus$plh5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> >
    >> > "Richard Wayne Garganta" <richinri@cox.net> wrote in message
    >> > news:f1j514$oh56@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> >> Gail wrote:
    >> >>> Hello stupid me again. lol I read the posts for Overlapping text

    > boxes
    >> >>> in Foxfire and it is sorta the similar situation I have. I was forced

    > to
    >> >>> use the Fixed Layout to get my site to show up the way I wanted it to
    >> >>> look because when I try to use Dynamic all my items are thrown
    >> >>> drastically across the page and are not where I intended them to be
    >> >>> at
    >> >>> all.
    >> >>> Basically if somone views my webpage I sometimes end up having to
    >> >>> tell
    >> >>> them to change their Text size to Medium and it usually looks
    >> >>> correct.

    > I
    >> >>> would love to have it just work the way it is supose to instead of
    >> >>> people having to change their browser text size to be able to browse

    > the
    >> >>> site. Like I said before I am not up on my "Tech Talk" so the
    >> >>> simplest
    >> >>> of explanations would be appreciated. My current website is done with
    >> >>> NOF8 but am also currently working with NOF10 to redo my website from
    >> >>> scratch. But I can't seem to get the Dynamic layout working properly
    >> >>> with either.
    >> >>> Sincerely befuddled,
    >> >>> Gail
    >> >>> http://www.goodiesbygail.com
    >> >>>
    >> >>>
    >> >> Nice stuff Gail and it showed up fine in FF for me.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > Thank you so much. Sometimes it looks good and sometimes it doesn't.

    > When
    >> > it doesn't I usually hear about it and I have to tell them to try and
    >> > change their text size.
    >> > Kind Regards,
    >> > Gail
    >> >

    >>
    >>

    >
    >




  9. #9
    Guest

    Default Re: Dynamic vs Fixed Layouts

    Thank you very much for all the help. I will play around with the
    suggestions and see what I can figure out. It's just it has always looked
    fine on all my computers when I visited the site so I never even knew there
    was a problem till somone wrote me about it.
    I'm glad I found this group I have picked up a bunch of good tips by reading
    the posts.

    Thanks to everyone who suggested something! If I have another question I
    know where to come now. NOF's tech support took too long to get answers and
    they wanted me to send them my files which they always tell me the never
    received.
    Kind Regards,
    Gail

    "Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
    news:f1l5m9$1p54@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > If everyone in the world used the same browser and screen size, web design
    > would be simple.
    >
    > Peter is right. If you use pixel sized text, you get better cross browser
    > rendering (IE, FF, Safari-Mac, etc.) But fixed sized text poses a
    > readability problem for people with less than perfect eyesight and/or high
    > resolution displays.
    >
    > Micah's shiny new laptop probably shipped with a default screen resolution
    > setting of 1600 x 1200. Ever try to view 13 px text on a high res
    > display?
    > It's almost impossible. That's what it's like for seniors too. So if
    > your
    > target audience includes seniors or people with neat new laptops, you
    > should
    > give them options to have bigger text size if they need it. And that
    > requires building your pages with plenty of wriggle room.
    >
    > --Nancy
    >
    > "Peter Cranfield" <pcranfield@standcot.globalnet.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:f1js36$plh6@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> Hi Gail
    >>
    >> If you set your text size by pixels, instead of by relativee size, then
    >> in
    >> IE the text will stay the same size and the 'funny' look will disappear.

    > You
    >> will find that each font needs a pixel size that suits its shape, ie 10pt
    >> Tahoma is 13pixels. This is not as effective in FF, but it does make a

    > real
    >> difference.
    >>
    >> You can use a dynamic site, but where you need to put overlapping objects
    >> use a fixed layout region. I find that works quite well.
    >>
    >> Hope this is of help.
    >>
    >> Peter
    >> <Gail> wrote in message

    > news:f1jhus$plh5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> >
    >> > "Richard Wayne Garganta" <richinri@cox.net> wrote in message
    >> > news:f1j514$oh56@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> >> Gail wrote:
    >> >>> Hello stupid me again. lol I read the posts for Overlapping text

    > boxes
    >> >>> in Foxfire and it is sorta the similar situation I have. I was forced

    > to
    >> >>> use the Fixed Layout to get my site to show up the way I wanted it to
    >> >>> look because when I try to use Dynamic all my items are thrown
    >> >>> drastically across the page and are not where I intended them to be
    >> >>> at
    >> >>> all.
    >> >>> Basically if somone views my webpage I sometimes end up having to
    >> >>> tell
    >> >>> them to change their Text size to Medium and it usually looks
    >> >>> correct.

    > I
    >> >>> would love to have it just work the way it is supose to instead of
    >> >>> people having to change their browser text size to be able to browse

    > the
    >> >>> site. Like I said before I am not up on my "Tech Talk" so the
    >> >>> simplest
    >> >>> of explanations would be appreciated. My current website is done with
    >> >>> NOF8 but am also currently working with NOF10 to redo my website from
    >> >>> scratch. But I can't seem to get the Dynamic layout working properly
    >> >>> with either.
    >> >>> Sincerely befuddled,
    >> >>> Gail
    >> >>> http://www.goodiesbygail.com
    >> >>>
    >> >>>
    >> >> Nice stuff Gail and it showed up fine in FF for me.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > Thank you so much. Sometimes it looks good and sometimes it doesn't.

    > When
    >> > it doesn't I usually hear about it and I have to tell them to try and
    >> > change their text size.
    >> > Kind Regards,
    >> > Gail
    >> >

    >>
    >>

    >
    >




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