Snippet Master

[Janice]

Laurence - I seem to have missed that you had developed a CMS system. Could
you point me in the direction of where to find out more?
Thanks!
Janice

"LBA" <webdesigns@no2spamabramsnet.com> wrote in message
news:f30c8o$9om1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> oC, that's an interesting idea. And it should work just fine. And if SSI
> is not an option, one could achieve the same thing with a PHP include or
> an ASP include... whatever the web host is happy with. For that matter,
> I've done CMS where the client uses the program they know best...
> Microsoft Word. They save the file from Word as HTML, and then they use
> an upload page where the click a button that uploads their file to the
> server. The web page contains the include statement... and voila.
> Instead of building them an upload page, you could take the easy route
> (for you, not the client) and show them how to upload using Internet
> Explorer. There's a million ways to skin a CMS.
>
> Laurence
>
>
>
> the other Chuck wrote:
>> Rich,
>>
>> If your using Linux why can't you use a Server Side Include (SSI). (
>> http://www.sitepoint.com/article/save-hours-ssis ) (Don't really know
>> if this is an option on a Windows host).
>>
>> I would setup my page such that the editable area is called by a SSI for
>> another HTML page. I believe you can call this SSI easy enough from a
>> Text Box (Ctrl "T") and just call another clean HTML document. Setup
>> your Snippet Master so that it doesn't edit your NOF page but instead put
>> the SnippetMaster Tags in the Clean HTML page. This way you don't have
>> to worry about your base NOF page and the Client only edits what gets
>> called by the SSI. In some cases I believe you would have to change the
>> Page Extension for your NOF page from HTML to SHTML. If your host
>> supports SSI's than this it would be a very clean way of doing just what
>> you want with SnippetMaster. I've tried the SSI method in the past and
>> it seemed to work quite well.
>>
>> the Other Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Richard Wayne Garganta" <richinri@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:f2vekg$5nc6@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>> LBA wrote:
>>>> Richard, I'm curious... does it store the edited text in a separate
>>>> external file? Or does it just re-write the NOF page with the added
>>>> text inserted directly into it?
>>>>
>>>> Laurence
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard Wayne Garganta wrote:
>>>>> I have to say, I checked out that snippet master program that someone
>>>>> suggested and I was blown away. Anyone that has the need to have
>>>>> clients edit portions of a web site - we now have an EXCELLENT
>>>>> solution to the problem. It blows away the others I have tried.
>>> This would be the one feature I do not like. It does not use an include
>>> file and edits text that is between too comment brackets. So if one
>>> were to change a page that a client has edited in NOF one would need to
>>> copy and past the edited area into the NOF page that is being changed to
>>> avoid losing the changes.
>>> I have seen the LBM program and it is more complicated, uses an include
>>> file so you don't have to worry about changes in NOF. But I do not like
>>> the editor - it puts in several unnecessary <span> tags. The free
>>> snippet master blows away the $15 LBM - BUT it uses an include file
>>> making editing in NOF less of a concern.
>>> Having seen both - my choice is snippet master hands down. I am
>>> emailing them to consider using include files as a feature.
>>>
>>
>>
>>

[LBA]

Janice, you can see a demo here. http://somegoodgiftideas.com/lbacms/
It was never intended to be a commercial product... it's not packaged or
fancy... I didn't even bother with a real shopping cart to sell it...
and by the pricing, I obviously don't expect to make any money off it, I
just wanted to cover time spent answering questions. It's just
something I built for myself that works well for situations where I need
to use it. Most other systems try to do too much... and the more they
try, the more complex they get. This was intended to be simple.

Laurence


Janice wrote:
> Laurence - I seem to have missed that you had developed a CMS system. Could
> you point me in the direction of where to find out more?
> Thanks!
> Janice
>
> "LBA" <webdesigns@no2spamabramsnet.com> wrote in message
> news:f30c8o$9om1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> oC, that's an interesting idea. And it should work just fine. And if SSI
>> is not an option, one could achieve the same thing with a PHP include or
>> an ASP include... whatever the web host is happy with. For that matter,
>> I've done CMS where the client uses the program they know best...
>> Microsoft Word. They save the file from Word as HTML, and then they use
>> an upload page where the click a button that uploads their file to the
>> server. The web page contains the include statement... and voila.
>> Instead of building them an upload page, you could take the easy route
>> (for you, not the client) and show them how to upload using Internet
>> Explorer. There's a million ways to skin a CMS.
>>
>> Laurence
>>
>>
>>
>> the other Chuck wrote:
>>> Rich,
>>>
>>> If your using Linux why can't you use a Server Side Include (SSI). (
>>> http://www.sitepoint.com/article/save-hours-ssis ) (Don't really know
>>> if this is an option on a Windows host).
>>>
>>> I would setup my page such that the editable area is called by a SSI for
>>> another HTML page. I believe you can call this SSI easy enough from a
>>> Text Box (Ctrl "T") and just call another clean HTML document. Setup
>>> your Snippet Master so that it doesn't edit your NOF page but instead put
>>> the SnippetMaster Tags in the Clean HTML page. This way you don't have
>>> to worry about your base NOF page and the Client only edits what gets
>>> called by the SSI. In some cases I believe you would have to change the
>>> Page Extension for your NOF page from HTML to SHTML. If your host
>>> supports SSI's than this it would be a very clean way of doing just what
>>> you want with SnippetMaster. I've tried the SSI method in the past and
>>> it seemed to work quite well.
>>>
>>> the Other Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Richard Wayne Garganta" <richinri@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> news:f2vekg$5nc6@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>>> LBA wrote:
>>>>> Richard, I'm curious... does it store the edited text in a separate
>>>>> external file? Or does it just re-write the NOF page with the added
>>>>> text inserted directly into it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Laurence
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Wayne Garganta wrote:
>>>>>> I have to say, I checked out that snippet master program that someone
>>>>>> suggested and I was blown away. Anyone that has the need to have
>>>>>> clients edit portions of a web site - we now have an EXCELLENT
>>>>>> solution to the problem. It blows away the others I have tried.
>>>> This would be the one feature I do not like. It does not use an include
>>>> file and edits text that is between too comment brackets. So if one
>>>> were to change a page that a client has edited in NOF one would need to
>>>> copy and past the edited area into the NOF page that is being changed to
>>>> avoid losing the changes.
>>>> I have seen the LBM program and it is more complicated, uses an include
>>>> file so you don't have to worry about changes in NOF. But I do not like
>>>> the editor - it puts in several unnecessary <span> tags. The free
>>>> snippet master blows away the $15 LBM - BUT it uses an include file
>>>> making editing in NOF less of a concern.
>>>> Having seen both - my choice is snippet master hands down. I am
>>>> emailing them to consider using include files as a feature.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

[Brerdane]

I looked at it and saw the user could put a graphic into the area. I have a
hair salon that just wants to put an ad they make on the one page. I'm thinking
this might fit the bill as long as I tell them to keep the ad graphic no bigger
than x by x size.

Deb
On Thu, May 24 2007 9:45 am, LBA <webdesigns@no2spamabramsnet.com> said:
>Janice, you can see a demo here. http://somegoodgiftideas.com/lbacms/
>It was never intended to be a commercial product... it's not packaged or
>fancy... I didn't even bother with a real shopping cart to sell it...
>and by the pricing, I obviously don't expect to make any money off it, I
>just wanted to cover time spent answering questions. It's just
>something I built for myself that works well for situations where I need
>to use it. Most other systems try to do too much... and the more they
>try, the more complex they get. This was intended to be simple.
>
>Laurence
>
>
>Janice wrote:
>> Laurence - I seem to have missed that you had developed a CMS system. Could
>> you point me in the direction of where to find out more?
>> Thanks!
>> Janice
>>
>> "LBA" <webdesigns@no2spamabramsnet.com> wrote in message
>> news:f30c8o$9om1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>> oC, that's an interesting idea. And it should work just fine. And if SSI
>>> is not an option, one could achieve the same thing with a PHP include or
>>> an ASP include... whatever the web host is happy with. For that matter,
>>> I've done CMS where the client uses the program they know best...
>>> Microsoft Word. They save the file from Word as HTML, and then they use
>>> an upload page where the click a button that uploads their file to the
>>> server. The web page contains the include statement... and voila.
>>> Instead of building them an upload page, you could take the easy route
>>> (for you, not the client) and show them how to upload using Internet
>>> Explorer. There's a million ways to skin a CMS.
>>>
>>> Laurence
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the other Chuck wrote:
>>>> Rich,
>>>>
>>>> If your using Linux why can't you use a Server Side Include (SSI). (
>>>> http://www.sitepoint.com/article/save-hours-ssis ) (Don't really know
>>>> if this is an option on a Windows host).
>>>>
>>>> I would setup my page such that the editable area is called by a SSI for
>>>> another HTML page. I believe you can call this SSI easy enough from a
>>>> Text Box (Ctrl "T") and just call another clean HTML document. Setup
>>>> your Snippet Master so that it doesn't edit your NOF page but instead put
>>>> the SnippetMaster Tags in the Clean HTML page. This way you don't have
>>>> to worry about your base NOF page and the Client only edits what gets
>>>> called by the SSI. In some cases I believe you would have to change the
>>>> Page Extension for your NOF page from HTML to SHTML. If your host
>>>> supports SSI's than this it would be a very clean way of doing just what
>>>> you want with SnippetMaster. I've tried the SSI method in the past and
>>>> it seemed to work quite well.
>>>>
>>>> the Other Chuck
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Richard Wayne Garganta" <richinri@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:f2vekg$5nc6@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>>>> LBA wrote:
>>>>>> Richard, I'm curious... does it store the edited text in a separate
>>>>>> external file? Or does it just re-write the NOF page with the added
>>>>>> text inserted directly into it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Laurence
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard Wayne Garganta wrote:
>>>>>>> I have to say, I checked out that snippet master program that someone
>>>>>>> suggested and I was blown away. Anyone that has the need to have
>>>>>>> clients edit portions of a web site - we now have an EXCELLENT
>>>>>>> solution to the problem. It blows away the others I have tried.
>>>>> This would be the one feature I do not like. It does not use an include
>>>>> file and edits text that is between too comment brackets. So if one
>>>>> were to change a page that a client has edited in NOF one would need to
>>>>> copy and past the edited area into the NOF page that is being changed to
>>>>> avoid losing the changes.
>>>>> I have seen the LBM program and it is more complicated, uses an include
>>>>> file so you don't have to worry about changes in NOF. But I do not like
>>>>> the editor - it puts in several unnecessary <span> tags. The free
>>>>> snippet master blows away the $15 LBM - BUT it uses an include file
>>>>> making editing in NOF less of a concern.
>>>>> Having seen both - my choice is snippet master hands down. I am
>>>>> emailing them to consider using include files as a feature.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>

[LBA]

No offense to my clients, but the graphic image you refer to was added
by someone more clever than I presume my clients will be. The WYSIWYG
editor that my system currently uses does not include the ability to
upload images... although it has been mentioned that there is a $15
add-on someplace that will do that. But without that add-on, the
ability to place an image using the CMS system requires that one
either... A) Have the ability to do their own FTP upload of the image...
or... B) Be in a situation where the image is already hosted online
somewhere such that all you would need to do is enter the full URL to
the image location. This is why I describe the script as primarily
useful for editing text.

Laurence


Brerdane wrote:
> I looked at it and saw the user could put a graphic into the area. I have a
> hair salon that just wants to put an ad they make on the one page. I'm thinking
> this might fit the bill as long as I tell them to keep the ad graphic no bigger
> than x by x size.
>
> Deb
> On Thu, May 24 2007 9:45 am, LBA <webdesigns@no2spamabramsnet.com> said:
>>Janice, you can see a demo here. http://somegoodgiftideas.com/lbacms/
>>It was never intended to be a commercial product... it's not packaged or
>>fancy... I didn't even bother with a real shopping cart to sell it...
>>and by the pricing, I obviously don't expect to make any money off it, I
>>just wanted to cover time spent answering questions. It's just
>>something I built for myself that works well for situations where I need
>>to use it. Most other systems try to do too much... and the more they
>>try, the more complex they get. This was intended to be simple.
>>
>>Laurence
>>
>>
>>Janice wrote:
>>> Laurence - I seem to have missed that you had developed a CMS system. Could
>>> you point me in the direction of where to find out more?
>>> Thanks!
>>> Janice
>>>
>>> "LBA" <webdesigns@no2spamabramsnet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:f30c8o$9om1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>>> oC, that's an interesting idea. And it should work just fine. And if SSI
>>>> is not an option, one could achieve the same thing with a PHP include or
>>>> an ASP include... whatever the web host is happy with. For that matter,
>>>> I've done CMS where the client uses the program they know best...
>>>> Microsoft Word. They save the file from Word as HTML, and then they use
>>>> an upload page where the click a button that uploads their file to the
>>>> server. The web page contains the include statement... and voila.
>>>> Instead of building them an upload page, you could take the easy route
>>>> (for you, not the client) and show them how to upload using Internet
>>>> Explorer. There's a million ways to skin a CMS.
>>>>
>>>> Laurence
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> the other Chuck wrote:
>>>>> Rich,
>>>>>
>>>>> If your using Linux why can't you use a Server Side Include (SSI). (
>>>>> http://www.sitepoint.com/article/save-hours-ssis ) (Don't really know
>>>>> if this is an option on a Windows host).
>>>>>
>>>>> I would setup my page such that the editable area is called by a SSI for
>>>>> another HTML page. I believe you can call this SSI easy enough from a
>>>>> Text Box (Ctrl "T") and just call another clean HTML document. Setup
>>>>> your Snippet Master so that it doesn't edit your NOF page but instead put
>>>>> the SnippetMaster Tags in the Clean HTML page. This way you don't have
>>>>> to worry about your base NOF page and the Client only edits what gets
>>>>> called by the SSI. In some cases I believe you would have to change the
>>>>> Page Extension for your NOF page from HTML to SHTML. If your host
>>>>> supports SSI's than this it would be a very clean way of doing just what
>>>>> you want with SnippetMaster. I've tried the SSI method in the past and
>>>>> it seemed to work quite well.
>>>>>
>>>>> the Other Chuck
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Richard Wayne Garganta" <richinri@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:f2vekg$5nc6@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>>>>> LBA wrote:
>>>>>>> Richard, I'm curious... does it store the edited text in a separate
>>>>>>> external file? Or does it just re-write the NOF page with the added
>>>>>>> text inserted directly into it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Laurence
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Richard Wayne Garganta wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have to say, I checked out that snippet master program that someone
>>>>>>>> suggested and I was blown away. Anyone that has the need to have
>>>>>>>> clients edit portions of a web site - we now have an EXCELLENT
>>>>>>>> solution to the problem. It blows away the others I have tried.
>>>>>> This would be the one feature I do not like. It does not use an include
>>>>>> file and edits text that is between too comment brackets. So if one
>>>>>> were to change a page that a client has edited in NOF one would need to
>>>>>> copy and past the edited area into the NOF page that is being changed to
>>>>>> avoid losing the changes.
>>>>>> I have seen the LBM program and it is more complicated, uses an include
>>>>>> file so you don't have to worry about changes in NOF. But I do not like
>>>>>> the editor - it puts in several unnecessary <span> tags. The free
>>>>>> snippet master blows away the $15 LBM - BUT it uses an include file
>>>>>> making editing in NOF less of a concern.
>>>>>> Having seen both - my choice is snippet master hands down. I am
>>>>>> emailing them to consider using include files as a feature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
>

[Janice]

Absolutely wonderful solution for basic text editing Laurence! Thanks for
making it available. I will be sending in my funds soon
Janice


"LBA" <webdesigns@no2spamabramsnet.com> wrote in message
news:f344su$lod4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> Janice, you can see a demo here. http://somegoodgiftideas.com/lbacms/ It
> was never intended to be a commercial product... it's not packaged or
> fancy... I didn't even bother with a real shopping cart to sell it... and
> by the pricing, I obviously don't expect to make any money off it, I just
> wanted to cover time spent answering questions. It's just something I
> built for myself that works well for situations where I need to use it.
> Most other systems try to do too much... and the more they try, the more
> complex they get. This was intended to be simple.
>
> Laurence
>
>
> Janice wrote:
>> Laurence - I seem to have missed that you had developed a CMS system.
>> Could you point me in the direction of where to find out more?
>> Thanks!
>> Janice
>>
>> "LBA" <webdesigns@no2spamabramsnet.com> wrote in message
>> news:f30c8o$9om1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>> oC, that's an interesting idea. And it should work just fine. And if
>>> SSI is not an option, one could achieve the same thing with a PHP
>>> include or an ASP include... whatever the web host is happy with. For
>>> that matter, I've done CMS where the client uses the program they know
>>> best... Microsoft Word. They save the file from Word as HTML, and then
>>> they use an upload page where the click a button that uploads their file
>>> to the server. The web page contains the include statement... and
>>> voila. Instead of building them an upload page, you could take the easy
>>> route (for you, not the client) and show them how to upload using
>>> Internet Explorer. There's a million ways to skin a CMS.
>>>
>>> Laurence
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the other Chuck wrote:
>>>> Rich,
>>>>
>>>> If your using Linux why can't you use a Server Side Include (SSI).
>>>> ( http://www.sitepoint.com/article/save-hours-ssis ) (Don't really
>>>> know if this is an option on a Windows host).
>>>>
>>>> I would setup my page such that the editable area is called by a SSI
>>>> for another HTML page. I believe you can call this SSI easy enough
>>>> from a Text Box (Ctrl "T") and just call another clean HTML document.
>>>> Setup your Snippet Master so that it doesn't edit your NOF page but
>>>> instead put the SnippetMaster Tags in the Clean HTML page. This way
>>>> you don't have to worry about your base NOF page and the Client only
>>>> edits what gets called by the SSI. In some cases I believe you would
>>>> have to change the Page Extension for your NOF page from HTML to SHTML.
>>>> If your host supports SSI's than this it would be a very clean way of
>>>> doing just what you want with SnippetMaster. I've tried the SSI method
>>>> in the past and it seemed to work quite well.
>>>>
>>>> the Other Chuck
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Richard Wayne Garganta" <richinri@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:f2vekg$5nc6@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>>>> LBA wrote:
>>>>>> Richard, I'm curious... does it store the edited text in a separate
>>>>>> external file? Or does it just re-write the NOF page with the added
>>>>>> text inserted directly into it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Laurence
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard Wayne Garganta wrote:
>>>>>>> I have to say, I checked out that snippet master program that
>>>>>>> someone suggested and I was blown away. Anyone that has the need to
>>>>>>> have clients edit portions of a web site - we now have an EXCELLENT
>>>>>>> solution to the problem. It blows away the others I have tried.
>>>>> This would be the one feature I do not like. It does not use an
>>>>> include file and edits text that is between too comment brackets. So
>>>>> if one were to change a page that a client has edited in NOF one would
>>>>> need to copy and past the edited area into the NOF page that is being
>>>>> changed to avoid losing the changes.
>>>>> I have seen the LBM program and it is more complicated, uses an
>>>>> include file so you don't have to worry about changes in NOF. But I
>>>>> do not like the editor - it puts in several unnecessary <span> tags.
>>>>> The free snippet master blows away the $15 LBM - BUT it uses an
>>>>> include file making editing in NOF less of a concern.
>>>>> Having seen both - my choice is snippet master hands down. I am
>>>>> emailing them to consider using include files as a feature.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>