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  1. #1
    RayC
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    Default Netobjects SPAM-Free?

    I stumbled across this link, which appears to be on an old section of the
    NetObjects website.

    http://www.netobjects.com/workbench/spamfree.html

    Does anyone have a clue whether this would work in NOF 10?

    Thanks.

    RayC



  2. #2
    Anton Strauss
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    Default Re: Netobjects SPAM-Free?

    use this instead, takes only a simple ctrl+t to implement
    http://www.web1marketing.com/resourc...il-encoder.htm

    --


    Anton Strauss
    www.videoproductions.com.au



    "RayC" <campbell.reXspamX@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
    news:f3p6p2$8sa2@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > I stumbled across this link, which appears to be on an old section of the
    > NetObjects website.
    >
    > http://www.netobjects.com/workbench/spamfree.html
    >
    > Does anyone have a clue whether this would work in NOF 10?
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > RayC
    >
    >




  3. #3
    LBA
    Guest

    Default Re: Netobjects SPAM-Free?

    I prefer this http://www.bitmotion.com/products/superspamfree.asp much
    better. It's a component which, when installed, automatically
    obfuscates all email addresses on all sites, rather than having to do
    them one by one. Set it and forget it.

    Laurence


    RayC wrote:
    > I stumbled across this link, which appears to be on an old section of the
    > NetObjects website.
    >
    > http://www.netobjects.com/workbench/spamfree.html
    >
    > Does anyone have a clue whether this would work in NOF 10?
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > RayC
    >
    >


  4. #4
    Peter Eisenburger
    Guest

    Default Re: Netobjects SPAM-Free?

    LBA wrote:
    > I prefer this http://www.bitmotion.com/products/superspamfree.asp much
    > better. It's a component which, when installed, automatically
    > obfuscates all email addresses on all sites, rather than having to do
    > them one by one. Set it and forget it.


    But control whether the component is set to be published in Publish view
    every now and then. - Though I am not sure whether spam bots can't
    read the code. Isn't it set in Unicode?

    Peter

    >
    > Laurence
    >
    >
    > RayC wrote:
    >> I stumbled across this link, which appears to be on an old section of
    >> the NetObjects website.
    >>
    >> http://www.netobjects.com/workbench/spamfree.html
    >>
    >> Does anyone have a clue whether this would work in NOF 10?
    >>
    >> Thanks.
    >>
    >> RayC
    >>


  5. #5
    LBA
    Guest

    Default Re: Netobjects SPAM-Free?

    I thought they were ASCII numbers or something like that... and yes,
    I've always presumed that it would be pretty easy bot bots to interpret
    that. It surprises me that email obfuscators still claim to be
    effective... but they do claim that. In reality, the best thing is not
    to put any email addresses on a web site... and use forms instead.

    Laurence

    Peter Eisenburger wrote:
    > LBA wrote:
    >> I prefer this http://www.bitmotion.com/products/superspamfree.asp much
    >> better. It's a component which, when installed, automatically
    >> obfuscates all email addresses on all sites, rather than having to do
    >> them one by one. Set it and forget it.

    >
    > But control whether the component is set to be published in Publish view
    > every now and then. - Though I am not sure whether spam bots can't read
    > the code. Isn't it set in Unicode?
    >
    > Peter
    >
    >>
    >> Laurence
    >>
    >>
    >> RayC wrote:
    >>> I stumbled across this link, which appears to be on an old section of
    >>> the NetObjects website.
    >>>
    >>> http://www.netobjects.com/workbench/spamfree.html
    >>>
    >>> Does anyone have a clue whether this would work in NOF 10?
    >>>
    >>> Thanks.
    >>>
    >>> RayC
    >>>


  6. #6
    Karl Strieby
    Guest

    Default Re: Netobjects SPAM-Free?

    LBA wrote:
    > I thought they were ASCII numbers or something like that... and yes,
    > I've always presumed that it would be pretty easy bot bots to interpret
    > that. It surprises me that email obfuscators still claim to be
    > effective... but they do claim that. In reality, the best thing is not
    > to put any email addresses on a web site... and use forms instead.
    >
    > Laurence


    Hi Laurence,

    Yes, the Bitmotion SpamFree component (which still works fine under NOF
    10 as long as you install it on NOF 7 and manually copy it to the NOF 10
    ...\components folder) obfuscates all e-mail addresses in the site by
    substituting ANSI codes for the characters in the address itself and the
    linked "mailto:" address.

    And you're right, that's not enough anti-spam protection these days...

    The bad news is that forms can easily be spammed too. My site`s original
    "contact us" form was getting hit by a trickle that grew to more than
    100 spams a month when I finally got fed up and redesigned the form.

    I redesigned the form to allow very limited free-form text input,
    display a warning and the would-be-sender's IP address (which I also
    enclose in the form`s CFMail output). Since then, I haven't had a single
    spam from it.

    I also haven't had a single nibble from a maybe web dev customer from it
    either, but that's obviously a different problem :-(.

    --
    Cheers,
    Karl

    http://www.k-c-p.com/

  7. #7
    LBA
    Guest

    Default Re: Netobjects SPAM-Free?

    Karl Strieby wrote:
    > I redesigned the form to allow very limited free-form text input,
    > display a warning and the would-be-sender's IP address (which I also
    > enclose in the form`s CFMail output).


    Karl, yes... form spam is becoming more and more of a problem. Could
    you explain your solution a little further? I've played with Captcha
    but I've gotten so sick of that... wish there was a better way. Damn
    spammers.

    Laurence

  8. #8
    Guest

    Default Re: Netobjects SPAM-Free?

    ..
    I don't allow any html to be processed (i.e. throw an error if < is present).

    <cfif '#Form.description#' CONTAINS "<">
    <h5">HTML is not allowed <a href="javascript:history.back()">re-try</a>.</h5>
    <cfabort>
    </cfif>

    Spamers want to send you a URL so this stops a lot of BS emails

    Mike


    LBA said:

    | Karl Strieby wrote:
    || I redesigned the form to allow very limited free-form text input,
    || display a warning and the would-be-sender's IP address (which I
    || also enclose in the form`s CFMail output).
    |
    | Karl, yes... form spam is becoming more and more of a problem.
    | Could you explain your solution a little further? I've played with
    | Captcha but I've gotten so sick of that... wish there was a better
    | way. Damn spammers.
    |
    | Laurence



  9. #9
    LBA
    Guest

    Default Re: Netobjects SPAM-Free?

    Interesting. I wonder if I can modify fommailer.php to do that or if I
    need to write my own form mail script. I'll give the former a try and
    see if that works.

    Laurence


    gotFusion.com wrote:
    > .
    > I don't allow any html to be processed (i.e. throw an error if < is present).
    >
    > <cfif '#Form.description#' CONTAINS "<">
    > <h5">HTML is not allowed <a href="javascript:history.back()">re-try</a>.</h5>
    > <cfabort>
    > </cfif>
    >
    > Spamers want to send you a URL so this stops a lot of BS emails
    >
    > Mike
    >
    >
    > LBA said:
    >
    > | Karl Strieby wrote:
    > || I redesigned the form to allow very limited free-form text input,
    > || display a warning and the would-be-sender's IP address (which I
    > || also enclose in the form`s CFMail output).
    > |
    > | Karl, yes... form spam is becoming more and more of a problem.
    > | Could you explain your solution a little further? I've played with
    > | Captcha but I've gotten so sick of that... wish there was a better
    > | way. Damn spammers.
    > |
    > | Laurence
    >
    >


  10. #10
    Anton Strauss
    Guest

    Default Re: Netobjects SPAM-Free?

    if you are using formmailer.php then I doubt you get spammed since the email
    address is not visible in the form html page and is only in the script which
    is not visible to the spammer

    --


    Anton Strauss
    www.videoproductions.com.au



    "LBA" <webdesigns@no2spamabramsnet.com> wrote in message
    news:f3qn8g$ct77@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > Interesting. I wonder if I can modify fommailer.php to do that or if I
    > need to write my own form mail script. I'll give the former a try and
    > see if that works.
    >
    > Laurence
    >
    >
    > gotFusion.com wrote:
    > > .
    > > I don't allow any html to be processed (i.e. throw an error if < is

    present).
    > >
    > > <cfif '#Form.description#' CONTAINS "<">
    > > <h5">HTML is not allowed <a

    href="javascript:history.back()">re-try</a>.</h5>
    > > <cfabort>
    > > </cfif>
    > >
    > > Spamers want to send you a URL so this stops a lot of BS emails
    > >
    > > Mike
    > >
    > >
    > > LBA said:
    > >
    > > | Karl Strieby wrote:
    > > || I redesigned the form to allow very limited free-form text input,
    > > || display a warning and the would-be-sender's IP address (which I
    > > || also enclose in the form`s CFMail output).
    > > |
    > > | Karl, yes... form spam is becoming more and more of a problem.
    > > | Could you explain your solution a little further? I've played with
    > > | Captcha but I've gotten so sick of that... wish there was a better
    > > | way. Damn spammers.
    > > |
    > > | Laurence
    > >
    > >




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