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  1. #1
    Waterspider
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    Default Aack-- colour frustrations

    I'm not sure if anyone here can help me with this, but...

    I have a coloured background, RGB 255 255 204.
    Fine. And I have a .gif banner with a corner of that very same colour, RGB
    255 255 204.
    Now the Aack. In Display and Publish, the background is ever so slightly
    darker than the corner of the banner.

    Any ideas?

    --
    Waterspider
    Visit www.penderharbour.org



  2. #2
    LBA
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    Default Re: Aack-- colour frustrations

    Are the banner and background images both GIF's... or is one a JPG? A
    JPG might give you a slightly different color once compressed. But
    assuming they are both GIF's.... how complex are the colors in the 2
    graphics? If the banner has more than 256 colors in it, that image
    would not be capable of displaying all of the required colors and a
    mismatch is likely. If that's the case, slice the banner into a few
    pieces so that each piece is less likely to exceed 256 colors.
    Intelligent slicing can give you better results. Show us a sample of
    the page.

    Laurence



    Waterspider wrote:
    > I'm not sure if anyone here can help me with this, but...
    >
    > I have a coloured background, RGB 255 255 204.
    > Fine. And I have a .gif banner with a corner of that very same colour, RGB
    > 255 255 204.
    > Now the Aack. In Display and Publish, the background is ever so slightly
    > darker than the corner of the banner.
    >
    > Any ideas?
    >


  3. #3
    Waterspider
    Guest

    Default Re: Aack-- colour frustrations


    "LBA" <webdesigns@no2spamabramsnet.com> wrote in message
    news:f6u4lr$gkb1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > Are the banner and background images both GIF's... or is one a JPG? A JPG
    > might give you a slightly different color once compressed. But assuming
    > they are both GIF's.... how complex are the colors in the 2 graphics? If
    > the banner has more than 256 colors in it, that image would not be capable
    > of displaying all of the required colors and a mismatch is likely. If
    > that's the case, slice the banner into a few pieces so that each piece is
    > less likely to exceed 256 colors. Intelligent slicing can give you better
    > results. Show us a sample of the page.
    > Laurence
    >

    Thanks for the quick reply, Laurence. You might have something with the
    ..gif-.jpg stuff. Do you know how NOF provides the colour for the background?
    If it's a .jpg, that might explain the problem.

    Sorry, but I don't dare publish this without wrecking the old version of the
    site, and I don't want to stick a page on www.penderharbour.org; worried
    about overwriting elements with the same name. Maybe in a bit, when the site
    is closer to done, I'll put it where it belongs on www.penderharbour.com.
    Note that the existing disaster was the work of someone I hired to do the
    work.
    Note to self: if you want something done right, do it yourself.
    Another note to self: finish reading that book on PHP.
    >
    >
    > Waterspider wrote:
    >> I'm not sure if anyone here can help me with this, but...
    >>
    >> I have a coloured background, RGB 255 255 204.
    >> Fine. And I have a .gif banner with a corner of that very same colour,
    >> RGB 255 255 204.
    >> Now the Aack. In Display and Publish, the background is ever so slightly
    >> darker than the corner of the banner.
    >>
    >> Any ideas?
    >>




  4. #4
    Mike Coombes
    Guest

    Default Re: Aack-- colour frustrations

    You might have better luck if you go for the nearest 'web-safe' equivalent.

    LBA wrote:
    > Are the banner and background images both GIF's... or is one a JPG? A
    > JPG might give you a slightly different color once compressed. But
    > assuming they are both GIF's.... how complex are the colors in the 2
    > graphics? If the banner has more than 256 colors in it, that image
    > would not be capable of displaying all of the required colors and a
    > mismatch is likely. If that's the case, slice the banner into a few
    > pieces so that each piece is less likely to exceed 256 colors.
    > Intelligent slicing can give you better results. Show us a sample of
    > the page.
    >
    > Laurence
    >
    >
    >
    > Waterspider wrote:
    >> I'm not sure if anyone here can help me with this, but...
    >>
    >> I have a coloured background, RGB 255 255 204.
    >> Fine. And I have a .gif banner with a corner of that very same
    >> colour, RGB 255 255 204.
    >> Now the Aack. In Display and Publish, the background is ever so
    >> slightly darker than the corner of the banner.
    >>
    >> Any ideas?
    >>


  5. #5
    Waterspider
    Guest

    Default Re: Aack-- colour frustrations


    "Mike Coombes" <mike@ktf-design.com> wrote in message
    news:f6u5gc$fvi11@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com. ..
    > You might have better luck if you go for the nearest 'web-safe'
    > equivalent.


    255 255 204 is one of the "web-safe" colours; that's why I chose it to use
    in the banner image.
    >
    > LBA wrote:
    >> Are the banner and background images both GIF's... or is one a JPG? A
    >> JPG might give you a slightly different color once compressed. But
    >> assuming they are both GIF's.... how complex are the colors in the 2
    >> graphics? If the banner has more than 256 colors in it, that image would
    >> not be capable of displaying all of the required colors and a mismatch is
    >> likely. If that's the case, slice the banner into a few pieces so that
    >> each piece is less likely to exceed 256 colors. Intelligent slicing can
    >> give you better results. Show us a sample of the page.
    >>
    >> Laurence
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Waterspider wrote:
    >>> I'm not sure if anyone here can help me with this, but...
    >>>
    >>> I have a coloured background, RGB 255 255 204.
    >>> Fine. And I have a .gif banner with a corner of that very same colour,
    >>> RGB 255 255 204.
    >>> Now the Aack. In Display and Publish, the background is ever so slightly
    >>> darker than the corner of the banner.
    >>>
    >>> Any ideas?
    >>>




  6. #6
    LBA
    Guest

    Default Re: Aack-- colour frustrations

    If you are talking about a background set by NOF, it's just a color
    setting setting... it's neither GIF nor JPEG. So perhaps it's the
    banner image that isn't producing the necessary color. If you want, you
    can make a test page with a test masterborder... set the background
    color and drop the image on the page... then provide the URL.

    Laurence



    Waterspider wrote:
    > "LBA" <webdesigns@no2spamabramsnet.com> wrote in message
    > news:f6u4lr$gkb1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> Are the banner and background images both GIF's... or is one a JPG? A JPG
    >> might give you a slightly different color once compressed. But assuming
    >> they are both GIF's.... how complex are the colors in the 2 graphics? If
    >> the banner has more than 256 colors in it, that image would not be capable
    >> of displaying all of the required colors and a mismatch is likely. If
    >> that's the case, slice the banner into a few pieces so that each piece is
    >> less likely to exceed 256 colors. Intelligent slicing can give you better
    >> results. Show us a sample of the page.
    >> Laurence
    >>

    > Thanks for the quick reply, Laurence. You might have something with the
    > .gif-.jpg stuff. Do you know how NOF provides the colour for the background?
    > If it's a .jpg, that might explain the problem.
    >
    > Sorry, but I don't dare publish this without wrecking the old version of the
    > site, and I don't want to stick a page on www.penderharbour.org; worried
    > about overwriting elements with the same name. Maybe in a bit, when the site
    > is closer to done, I'll put it where it belongs on www.penderharbour.com.
    > Note that the existing disaster was the work of someone I hired to do the
    > work.
    > Note to self: if you want something done right, do it yourself.
    > Another note to self: finish reading that book on PHP.
    >>
    >>
    >> Waterspider wrote:
    >>> I'm not sure if anyone here can help me with this, but...
    >>>
    >>> I have a coloured background, RGB 255 255 204.
    >>> Fine. And I have a .gif banner with a corner of that very same colour,
    >>> RGB 255 255 204.
    >>> Now the Aack. In Display and Publish, the background is ever so slightly
    >>> darker than the corner of the banner.
    >>>
    >>> Any ideas?
    >>>

    >
    >


  7. #7
    Garret Mott
    Guest

    Default Re: Aack-- colour frustrations

    Hi -

    > Sorry, but I don't dare publish this without wrecking the old version of
    > the site, and I don't want to stick a page on www.penderharbour.org;
    > worried about overwriting elements with the same name. Maybe in a bit,
    > when the site is closer to done, I'll put it where it belongs on
    > www.penderharbour.com.


    What I do (because I'm a trial & error kinda guy - emphasis on error) is to
    set up a test folder: www.pendourharbour.org/test for example & publish to
    there.

    Lord knows what you might find @ automatesoftware.com/test..... Oh - an
    older version of a real estate site.

    About the images: maybe the colours have an extra "u" in 'em? <vbg> Like
    England, Canada & the US are 2 countries separated by a common language!

    Garret Mott

    Auto-Mate Software www.automatesoftware.com
    Northeast DataFlex Consortium www.nedataflex.com



  8. #8
    Trimdoner
    Guest

    Default Re: Aack-- colour frustrations

    I don't have an immediate solution, but I have had the same problem:
    Using NOF 9/10 background colour set to HTML XXX
    Images produced in Paintshop Pro 9 with images set to same HTML XXX
    background -
    Results sometimes mis-match, meaning I've got to play about with html colour
    codes to produce a seamless join.
    I'd have to jump back in time a month or two for the exact situation, but it
    baffled me at the time....

    Ken

    "Waterspider" <nospam@all.com> wrote in message
    news:f6u77r$gkb2@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >
    > "Mike Coombes" <mike@ktf-design.com> wrote in message
    > news:f6u5gc$fvi11@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com. ..
    > > You might have better luck if you go for the nearest 'web-safe'
    > > equivalent.

    >
    > 255 255 204 is one of the "web-safe" colours; that's why I chose it to use
    > in the banner image.
    > >
    > > LBA wrote:
    > >> Are the banner and background images both GIF's... or is one a JPG? A
    > >> JPG might give you a slightly different color once compressed. But
    > >> assuming they are both GIF's.... how complex are the colors in the 2
    > >> graphics? If the banner has more than 256 colors in it, that image

    would
    > >> not be capable of displaying all of the required colors and a mismatch

    is
    > >> likely. If that's the case, slice the banner into a few pieces so that
    > >> each piece is less likely to exceed 256 colors. Intelligent slicing can
    > >> give you better results. Show us a sample of the page.
    > >>
    > >> Laurence
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Waterspider wrote:
    > >>> I'm not sure if anyone here can help me with this, but...
    > >>>
    > >>> I have a coloured background, RGB 255 255 204.
    > >>> Fine. And I have a .gif banner with a corner of that very same colour,
    > >>> RGB 255 255 204.
    > >>> Now the Aack. In Display and Publish, the background is ever so

    slightly
    > >>> darker than the corner of the banner.
    > >>>
    > >>> Any ideas?
    > >>>

    >
    >




  9. #9
    John
    Guest

    Default Re: Aack-- colour frustrations

    > I have a coloured background, RGB 255 255 204.
    > Fine. And I have a .gif banner with a corner of that very same colour, RGB
    > 255 255 204.

    The palette used by the gif file may shift the color off slightly - to avoid
    this set the corner colour to transparent.

    --




  10. #10
    Nancy O
    Guest

    Default Re: Aack-- colour frustrations

    H20 Spider,

    Get this free color pick tool from Iconico. There's nothing better for
    zooming in close and grabbing swatches from the web browser to compare
    and/or save color schemes for your web sites.

    www.iconico.com/colorpic

    Gifs, jpgs and pngs all render colors a bit differently. Even within the Gif
    family, you'll find colors vary depending on whether they are saved as Gif
    32, 64 or 128.


    --Nancy O.
    Alt-Web Design & Publishing
    www.alt-web.com




    "Waterspider" <nospam@all.com> wrote in message
    news:f6u3o6$f1t9@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > I'm not sure if anyone here can help me with this, but...
    >
    > I have a coloured background, RGB 255 255 204.
    > Fine. And I have a .gif banner with a corner of that very same colour, RGB
    > 255 255 204.
    > Now the Aack. In Display and Publish, the background is ever so slightly
    > darker than the corner of the banner.
    >
    > Any ideas?
    >
    > --
    > Waterspider
    > Visit www.penderharbour.org
    >
    >




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