New Site

[Garret Mott]

Hi Micah -

Nice site - I particularly like the correlation between the red of the
apples & the red shaded buttons.

re: how text renders in banners. I think Mike was talking about the way the
text looks as produced by NOF - the "dots" in the shading/shadowing around
the letters kinda clashes with the nice pastoral picture it's on.

In case you couldn't tell, I agree with him <g>. Maybe play a bit with
flatter text so it looks a little cleaner? I've found that having no 3d
effects produces nicer looking text.

About your family site (hey there was a link to it!). Do people really
still need to be educated about how organic farming both creates
better/healthier food & protects the environment? But then, I guess there
are still those that think hamburger comes in styrofoam containers straight
from the cow.... Here in Vermont, many visitors come believing that maple
syrup is simply produced by drilling a hole in a maple tree & letting the
sap run out into the container (no - it takes 40-50 gallons of sap to boil
it down to 1 gal. of syrup).

So - after rambling, I guess I answered my own question!


Garret Mott

Auto-Mate Software www.automatesoftware.com
Northeast DataFlex Consortium www.nedataflex.com

[Peter Cranfield]

Hi Micah

I think that it looks really good, and very interesting and makes me want to
explore the site.

From my point of view, I wonder if using a non serif face for your body type
would look much 'cleaner' for this site. Verdana usually looks good. I
would also not underline any of the headings as I think it makes it harder
to read and also can make it appear to be a 'link'. But we are down to
personal choice here.

Peter


"Micah Klesick (www.learnNOF.com)" <webmaster@learnNOF.com> wrote in message
news:f7qifk$1fo5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> That is what I was thinking... LOL
>
> --
> Micah Klesick
> www.learnNOF.com
> Flash video and PDF tutorials on
> NetObjects Fusion
> --
> For a Forum on NOF versions 8-10 go to
> www.learnNOF.com/index.php
> --
>
> "Mike C" <mike_cummings@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
> news:f7pvl4$qha2@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> Nice simple site, the painting looks finished to me (LOL)
>>
>> Mike C
>> "Micah Klesick (www.learnNOF.com)" <webmaster@learnNOF.com> wrote in
>> message news:f7om8h$ol22@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>> Hey, I am working on a site now that will probably be my best site.
>>> www.harvestjubilee.org. tell me what you think.
>>> All suggestions looked at. :-)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Micah Klesick
>>> www.learnNOF.com
>>> Flash video and PDF tutorials on
>>> NetObjects Fusion
>>> --
>>> For a Forum on NOF versions 8-10 go to
>>> www.learnNOF.com/index.php
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Allison Moore]

> Nice, Micah, but I'd suggest you stop using NOF generated banners - I
> hate the way the text renders.

I agree that the rendering on the banner text degrades what
is otherwise a very nice site. That text really needs to be
anti-aliased against the image.

Allison

[William Patterson]

My very first impression was a nice clean look but there is a mix of font
sizes and styles. Also looking at the code there are areas where you are
using pt when you should use px or em. PT is for print work not screen
fonts. Look at the fonts when rendered by different browsers such as Opera,
Firefox and IE. I have found that relative looks different but ems seem to
stay steady across the browser as well as most px. Just my opinion

"Micah Klesick (www.learnNOF.com)" <webmaster@learnNOF.com> wrote in message
news:f7om8h$ol22@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> Hey, I am working on a site now that will probably be my best site.
> www.harvestjubilee.org. tell me what you think.
> All suggestions looked at. :-)
>
> --
> Micah Klesick
> www.learnNOF.com
> Flash video and PDF tutorials on
> NetObjects Fusion
> --
> For a Forum on NOF versions 8-10 go to
> www.learnNOF.com/index.php
> --
>
>

[Micah Klesick \(www.learnNOF.com\)]

How? I cannot figure out how to do that with this banner...?

--
Micah Klesick
www.learnNOF.com
Flash video and PDF tutorials on
NetObjects Fusion
--
For a Forum on NOF versions 8-10 go to
www.learnNOF.com/index.php
--

"Allison Moore" <dumpALLISONlowercase@forgetMETAthisHEALTHand.CO M> wrote in
message news:A921.1184947998.40@gfwebforum.com...
>> Nice, Micah, but I'd suggest you stop using NOF generated banners - I
>> hate the way the text renders.
>
> I agree that the rendering on the banner text degrades what is otherwise a
> very nice site. That text really needs to be anti-aliased against the
> image.
>
> Allison
>
>

[Micah Klesick \(www.learnNOF.com\)]

To answer your question, YES! Sadly, they do need to be educated about
organics. It is amazing how many people really, truly think that milk comes
from the store, they never really think it comes from a cow, they have no
idea of the process. Crazy!
I could not get any of the fonts to look any better...

--
Micah Klesick
www.learnNOF.com
Flash video and PDF tutorials on
NetObjects Fusion
--
For a Forum on NOF versions 8-10 go to
www.learnNOF.com/index.php
--

"Garret Mott" <Garret_at_AutoMateSoftware_dot_com> wrote in message
news:f7qjjv$1fo11@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com. ..
> Hi Micah -
>
> Nice site - I particularly like the correlation between the red of the
> apples & the red shaded buttons.
>
> re: how text renders in banners. I think Mike was talking about the way
> the text looks as produced by NOF - the "dots" in the shading/shadowing
> around the letters kinda clashes with the nice pastoral picture it's on.
>
> In case you couldn't tell, I agree with him <g>. Maybe play a bit with
> flatter text so it looks a little cleaner? I've found that having no 3d
> effects produces nicer looking text.
>
> About your family site (hey there was a link to it!). Do people really
> still need to be educated about how organic farming both creates
> better/healthier food & protects the environment? But then, I guess there
> are still those that think hamburger comes in styrofoam containers
> straight from the cow.... Here in Vermont, many visitors come believing
> that maple syrup is simply produced by drilling a hole in a maple tree &
> letting the sap run out into the container (no - it takes 40-50 gallons of
> sap to boil it down to 1 gal. of syrup).
>
> So - after rambling, I guess I answered my own question!
>
>
> Garret Mott
>
> Auto-Mate Software www.automatesoftware.com
> Northeast DataFlex Consortium www.nedataflex.com
>
>

[Micah Klesick \(www.learnNOF.com\)]

I put all the text to px across the entire site, so that should be better.
Thanks for all the help, guys, I am glad to get it. Keep sending it through
as long as you want. <g>

--
Micah Klesick
www.learnNOF.com
Flash video and PDF tutorials on
NetObjects Fusion
--
For a Forum on NOF versions 8-10 go to
www.learnNOF.com/index.php
--

"William Patterson" <webmaster@wwmgmt.com> wrote in message
news:f7t8ah$bim2@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> My very first impression was a nice clean look but there is a mix of font
> sizes and styles. Also looking at the code there are areas where you are
> using pt when you should use px or em. PT is for print work not screen
> fonts. Look at the fonts when rendered by different browsers such as
> Opera, Firefox and IE. I have found that relative looks different but ems
> seem to stay steady across the browser as well as most px. Just my
> opinion
>
> "Micah Klesick (www.learnNOF.com)" <webmaster@learnNOF.com> wrote in
> message news:f7om8h$ol22@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> Hey, I am working on a site now that will probably be my best site.
>> www.harvestjubilee.org. tell me what you think.
>> All suggestions looked at. :-)
>>
>> --
>> Micah Klesick
>> www.learnNOF.com
>> Flash video and PDF tutorials on
>> NetObjects Fusion
>> --
>> For a Forum on NOF versions 8-10 go to
>> www.learnNOF.com/index.php
>> --
>>
>>
>
>

[Micah Klesick \(www.learnNOF.com\)]

I fixed the underlined text, you are right, though I sometimes forget I am
working on a website, and underline the headings. <g>

--
Micah Klesick
www.learnNOF.com
Flash video and PDF tutorials on
NetObjects Fusion
--
For a Forum on NOF versions 8-10 go to
www.learnNOF.com/index.php
--

"Peter Cranfield" <pcranfield@standcot.globalnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:f7qlq4$1fo14@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com. ..
> Hi Micah
>
> I think that it looks really good, and very interesting and makes me want
> to explore the site.
>
> From my point of view, I wonder if using a non serif face for your body
> type would look much 'cleaner' for this site. Verdana usually looks good.
> I would also not underline any of the headings as I think it makes it
> harder to read and also can make it appear to be a 'link'. But we are down
> to personal choice here.
>
> Peter
>
>
> "Micah Klesick (www.learnNOF.com)" <webmaster@learnNOF.com> wrote in
> message news:f7qifk$1fo5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> That is what I was thinking... LOL
>>
>> --
>> Micah Klesick
>> www.learnNOF.com
>> Flash video and PDF tutorials on
>> NetObjects Fusion
>> --
>> For a Forum on NOF versions 8-10 go to
>> www.learnNOF.com/index.php
>> --
>>
>> "Mike C" <mike_cummings@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:f7pvl4$qha2@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>> Nice simple site, the painting looks finished to me (LOL)
>>>
>>> Mike C
>>> "Micah Klesick (www.learnNOF.com)" <webmaster@learnNOF.com> wrote in
>>> message news:f7om8h$ol22@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>>> Hey, I am working on a site now that will probably be my best site.
>>>> www.harvestjubilee.org. tell me what you think.
>>>> All suggestions looked at. :-)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Micah Klesick
>>>> www.learnNOF.com
>>>> Flash video and PDF tutorials on
>>>> NetObjects Fusion
>>>> --
>>>> For a Forum on NOF versions 8-10 go to
>>>> www.learnNOF.com/index.php
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Mike Coombes]

I think you need to generate each banner yoursef by adding the text with
photoshop or similar.

Micah Klesick (www.learnNOF.com) wrote:
> How? I cannot figure out how to do that with this banner...?
>
>

[Waterspider]

"Micah Klesick (www.learnNOF.com)" <webmaster@learnNOF.com> wrote in message
news:f7om8h$ol22@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> Hey, I am working on a site now that will probably be my best site.
> www.harvestjubilee.org. tell me what you think.
> All suggestions looked at. :-)
>
Wow, kid, have you ever improved your web-design skills in the short time
that I've been hanging around this newsgroup!
I will have to spend a lot more time looking at details before I can come up
with some constructive criticism (that's a compliment, in case you didn't
get it).

Later...

Waterspider