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  1. #11
    Micah Klesick \(www.learnNOF.com\)
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    Default Re: NetObjects Seepd Issues (Please run test and report back)

    Mine said 20% when I started, and said 18% when I finished with the table
    test.
    Jeff, it might be your computer...

    --
    Micah Klesick
    www.learnNOF.com
    Flash video and PDF tutorials on
    NetObjects Fusion
    --
    For a Forum on NOF versions 8-10 go to
    www.learnNOF.com/index.php
    --

    "LBA" <webdesigns@no2spamabramsnet.com> wrote in message
    news:fa4cno$3hp1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >I certainly do agree with Gary and Micah and Nancy, since your instructions
    >are so vague that they provide no basis for evaluation, but just for yucks,
    >I figured I'd give it a go. I opened NOF and the performance monitor and
    >closed all other apps... at which point memory usage was at 38%... and then
    >I created a table... at which point memory usage was at 38%... and then I
    >converted the table to a layout region... at which point memory usage was
    >at 38%. Proof positive... there is no bug.
    >
    > Laurence
    >
    >
    > Gary W Dumbleton wrote:
    >> I agree with Micah and Nancy,
    >>
    >> Gary
    >>
    >>
    >> "Jeff" <affirm@affirmware.com.au> wrote in message
    >> news:fa3gkg$sgi3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> > Hello,
    >> >
    >> > I am trying to get the net as wide as possable. This is not a controled
    >> > test, its real life.
    >> >
    >> > Start putting constrants on it and you are not get real results.
    >> >
    >> > Jeff
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > "Micah Klesick (www.learnNOF.com)" <webmaster@learnNOF.com> wrote in
    >> > message news:fa3ae0$sgi1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> >> Not much of a constant test that way. I would recommend doing
    >> >> everything one way, as Nancy said, then how ever they nt. Otherwise
    >> >> there will be no real real results.
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >> --
    >> >> Micah Klesick
    >> >> www.learnNOF.com
    >> >> Flash video and PDF tutorials on
    >> >> NetObjects Fusion
    >> >> --
    >> >> For a Forum on NOF versions 8-10 go to
    >> >> www.learnNOF.com/index.php
    >> >> --
    >> >>
    >> >> "Jeff" <affirm@affirmware.com.au> wrote in message
    >> >> news:fa2u7q$pph8@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> >>> Nancy,
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Let people go with what they have and they report back with
    >> >>> configuration.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> Jeff
    >> >>>
    >> >>> "Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
    >> >>> news:fa2sfv$ql63@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> >>>> Questions so we are all on same page:
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> Site settings:
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> 1) Dynamic layout?
    >> >>>> ... with or w/o Netscape (there's a difference)___
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> 2) Fixed page layout? ___
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> 3) HTML output? _____
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> 4) CSS output? ____
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> 5) With default MasterBorders? ____
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> 6) With ZeroMargins borders? ____
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> Please respond to these 6 questions before we proceed.
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> --N
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> "Jeff" <affirm@affirmware.com.au> wrote in message
    >> >>>> news:fa2nes$ql62@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> >>>>> Hello group,
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> I am creating a new thread here to see if we can isolate some of
    >> >>>>> the
    >> >>>>> NetObject's slow running issues. I have come up with a couple of
    >> >>>>> tests for
    >> >>>>> users who are using table.
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> Hopefully will help shed some light on the issue.
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> (NOTE: make sure you create a backup before running test 2)
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> Test 1.
    >> >>>>> Windows XP includes a utility called Performance Monitor that will
    >> >>>>> monitor
    >> >>>>> just about anything your workstation does. It can be accessed by
    >> >>>>> typing
    >> >>>>> 'perfmon' from the Run command.
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> So, in the table hit the enter about 15 time and type text then hit
    >> >>>>> Alt
    >> >>>> Tab
    >> >>>>> to show the 'perfmon' utility and see how things are performing.
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> For me it jumps up to between 85% to 100% on memory use.
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> I think the code inside the table function in getting itself into
    >> >>>>> some
    >> >>>> kind
    >> >>>>> of recursive action.
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> Report back on your findings.
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> Test 2.
    >> >>>>> Convert table to layout and see if the page speeds up. Then undo
    >> >>>>> changes
    >> >>>> so
    >> >>>>> you get back to the original table.
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> When converted to Layout my page speeds up normal levels.
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> Report back on your findings.
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> Regards
    >> >>>>> Jeff
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>
    >> >>>
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >
    >> >

    >>
    >>
    >>




  2. #12
    Trimdoner
    Guest

    Default Re: NetObjects Seepd Issues (Please run test and report back)

    Here's templates of an old site - made in 7.5 - which displays slow text
    editing (for me anyway)
    See if it does it for anyone else. The textspeed.zip is the original 7.5
    site, textspeed10 is the the same site from template into 10, then exported
    again.

    As I've said before, I don't have any speed problems in 10 - this is just a
    minor quirk that appears now and again.

    Ken
    "Micah Klesick (www.learnNOF.com)" <webmaster@learnNOF.com> wrote in message
    news:fa4fau$2re2@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > Mine said 20% when I started, and said 18% when I finished with the table
    > test.
    > Jeff, it might be your computer...
    >
    > --
    > Micah Klesick
    > www.learnNOF.com
    > Flash video and PDF tutorials on
    > NetObjects Fusion
    > --
    > For a Forum on NOF versions 8-10 go to
    > www.learnNOF.com/index.php
    > --
    >
    > "LBA" <webdesigns@no2spamabramsnet.com> wrote in message
    > news:fa4cno$3hp1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > >I certainly do agree with Gary and Micah and Nancy, since your

    instructions
    > >are so vague that they provide no basis for evaluation, but just for

    yucks,
    > >I figured I'd give it a go. I opened NOF and the performance monitor and
    > >closed all other apps... at which point memory usage was at 38%... and

    then
    > >I created a table... at which point memory usage was at 38%... and then I
    > >converted the table to a layout region... at which point memory usage was
    > >at 38%. Proof positive... there is no bug.
    > >
    > > Laurence
    > >
    > >
    > > Gary W Dumbleton wrote:
    > >> I agree with Micah and Nancy,
    > >>
    > >> Gary
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> "Jeff" <affirm@affirmware.com.au> wrote in message
    > >> news:fa3gkg$sgi3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > >> > Hello,
    > >> >
    > >> > I am trying to get the net as wide as possable. This is not a

    controled
    > >> > test, its real life.
    > >> >
    > >> > Start putting constrants on it and you are not get real results.
    > >> >
    > >> > Jeff
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > "Micah Klesick (www.learnNOF.com)" <webmaster@learnNOF.com> wrote in


    > >> > message news:fa3ae0$sgi1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > >> >> Not much of a constant test that way. I would recommend doing
    > >> >> everything one way, as Nancy said, then how ever they nt. Otherwise
    > >> >> there will be no real real results.
    > >> >>
    > >> >>
    > >> >> --
    > >> >> Micah Klesick
    > >> >> www.learnNOF.com
    > >> >> Flash video and PDF tutorials on
    > >> >> NetObjects Fusion
    > >> >> --
    > >> >> For a Forum on NOF versions 8-10 go to
    > >> >> www.learnNOF.com/index.php
    > >> >> --
    > >> >>
    > >> >> "Jeff" <affirm@affirmware.com.au> wrote in message
    > >> >> news:fa2u7q$pph8@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > >> >>> Nancy,
    > >> >>>
    > >> >>> Let people go with what they have and they report back with
    > >> >>> configuration.
    > >> >>>
    > >> >>> Jeff
    > >> >>>
    > >> >>> "Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
    > >> >>> news:fa2sfv$ql63@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > >> >>>> Questions so we are all on same page:
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> Site settings:
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> 1) Dynamic layout?
    > >> >>>> ... with or w/o Netscape (there's a difference)___
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> 2) Fixed page layout? ___
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> 3) HTML output? _____
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> 4) CSS output? ____
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> 5) With default MasterBorders? ____
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> 6) With ZeroMargins borders? ____
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> Please respond to these 6 questions before we proceed.
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> --N
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>> "Jeff" <affirm@affirmware.com.au> wrote in message
    > >> >>>> news:fa2nes$ql62@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > >> >>>>> Hello group,
    > >> >>>>>
    > >> >>>>> I am creating a new thread here to see if we can isolate some of
    > >> >>>>> the
    > >> >>>>> NetObject's slow running issues. I have come up with a couple of
    > >> >>>>> tests for
    > >> >>>>> users who are using table.
    > >> >>>>>
    > >> >>>>> Hopefully will help shed some light on the issue.
    > >> >>>>>
    > >> >>>>> (NOTE: make sure you create a backup before running test 2)
    > >> >>>>>
    > >> >>>>> Test 1.
    > >> >>>>> Windows XP includes a utility called Performance Monitor that

    will
    > >> >>>>> monitor
    > >> >>>>> just about anything your workstation does. It can be accessed by
    > >> >>>>> typing
    > >> >>>>> 'perfmon' from the Run command.
    > >> >>>>>
    > >> >>>>> So, in the table hit the enter about 15 time and type text then

    hit
    > >> >>>>> Alt
    > >> >>>> Tab
    > >> >>>>> to show the 'perfmon' utility and see how things are performing.
    > >> >>>>>
    > >> >>>>> For me it jumps up to between 85% to 100% on memory use.
    > >> >>>>>
    > >> >>>>> I think the code inside the table function in getting itself into
    > >> >>>>> some
    > >> >>>> kind
    > >> >>>>> of recursive action.
    > >> >>>>>
    > >> >>>>> Report back on your findings.
    > >> >>>>>
    > >> >>>>>
    > >> >>>>> Test 2.
    > >> >>>>> Convert table to layout and see if the page speeds up. Then undo
    > >> >>>>> changes
    > >> >>>> so
    > >> >>>>> you get back to the original table.
    > >> >>>>>
    > >> >>>>> When converted to Layout my page speeds up normal levels.
    > >> >>>>>
    > >> >>>>> Report back on your findings.
    > >> >>>>>
    > >> >>>>> Regards
    > >> >>>>> Jeff
    > >> >>>>>
    > >> >>>>>
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>>
    > >> >>>
    > >> >>>
    > >> >>
    > >> >>
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>

    >
    >








  3. #13
    Nancy O
    Guest

    Default Re: NetObjects Seepd Issues (Please run test and report back)

    System: Celeron (R) CPU 1.79 GHz, 1GB Ram, 114GB HD/ 67.6GB Free disk space,
    WinXP Home Ed, SP1

    External Drives:
    USB 51GB External HD.
    CD, DVD and floppy trays - empty.

    Applications running: DSL, Outlook Express, Photoshop 6.0 with 1, 21Mb open
    graphic file, Performance Monitor, NOF10 with update #3.

    NOF Site Settings: Dynamic Layout for IE (Netscape off), CSS, Straight
    Quotes. Site Protection OFF, Versioning OFF. Theme: Office XP. Default
    MasterBorder: top, left, bottom.

    Test: Insert 2 by 2 table. Type text in each of 4 cells - no delays.
    Convert table to layout. Convert layout to table with individual cells.
    Local Publish Current Page. Launches IE6. Page displays in browser.

    Performance Monitor: Avg 16%, Maximum 70%.

    Sorry Jeff. No devastating performance issues here and I need a new
    computer.

    --Nancy





    "Jeff" <affirm@affirmware.com.au> wrote in message
    news:fa2nes$ql62@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > Hello group,
    >
    > I am creating a new thread here to see if we can isolate some of the
    > NetObject's slow running issues. I have come up with a couple of tests for
    > users who are using table.
    >
    > Hopefully will help shed some light on the issue.
    >
    > (NOTE: make sure you create a backup before running test 2)
    >
    > Test 1.
    > Windows XP includes a utility called Performance Monitor that will monitor
    > just about anything your workstation does. It can be accessed by typing
    > 'perfmon' from the Run command.
    >
    > So, in the table hit the enter about 15 time and type text then hit Alt

    Tab
    > to show the 'perfmon' utility and see how things are performing.
    >
    > For me it jumps up to between 85% to 100% on memory use.
    >
    > I think the code inside the table function in getting itself into some

    kind
    > of recursive action.
    >
    > Report back on your findings.
    >
    >
    > Test 2.
    > Convert table to layout and see if the page speeds up. Then undo changes

    so
    > you get back to the original table.
    >
    > When converted to Layout my page speeds up normal levels.
    >
    > Report back on your findings.
    >
    > Regards
    > Jeff
    >
    >




  4. #14
    Nancy O
    Guest

    Default Re: NetObjects Seepd Issues (Please run test and report back)

    Ken,
    In the future, please warn us before you attach big template files.
    Thanks,
    -Nancy


    "Trimdoner" <ken@lrcars.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:fa4pq7$4td1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > Here's templates of an old site - made in 7.5 - which displays slow text
    > editing (for me anyway)
    > See if it does it for anyone else. The textspeed.zip is the original 7.5
    > site, textspeed10 is the the same site from template into 10, then

    exported
    > again.
    >
    > As I've said before, I don't have any speed problems in 10 - this is just

    a
    > minor quirk that appears now and again.
    >
    > Ken
    > "Micah Klesick (www.learnNOF.com)" <webmaster@learnNOF.com> wrote in

    message
    > news:fa4fau$2re2@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > > Mine said 20% when I started, and said 18% when I finished with the

    table
    > > test.
    > > Jeff, it might be your computer...
    > >
    > > --
    > > Micah Klesick
    > > www.learnNOF.com
    > > Flash video and PDF tutorials on
    > > NetObjects Fusion
    > > --
    > > For a Forum on NOF versions 8-10 go to
    > > www.learnNOF.com/index.php
    > > --
    > >
    > > "LBA" <webdesigns@no2spamabramsnet.com> wrote in message
    > > news:fa4cno$3hp1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > > >I certainly do agree with Gary and Micah and Nancy, since your

    > instructions
    > > >are so vague that they provide no basis for evaluation, but just for

    > yucks,
    > > >I figured I'd give it a go. I opened NOF and the performance monitor

    and
    > > >closed all other apps... at which point memory usage was at 38%... and

    > then
    > > >I created a table... at which point memory usage was at 38%... and then

    I
    > > >converted the table to a layout region... at which point memory usage

    was
    > > >at 38%. Proof positive... there is no bug.
    > > >
    > > > Laurence
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Gary W Dumbleton wrote:
    > > >> I agree with Micah and Nancy,
    > > >>
    > > >> Gary
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >> "Jeff" <affirm@affirmware.com.au> wrote in message
    > > >> news:fa3gkg$sgi3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > > >> > Hello,
    > > >> >
    > > >> > I am trying to get the net as wide as possable. This is not a

    > controled
    > > >> > test, its real life.
    > > >> >
    > > >> > Start putting constrants on it and you are not get real results.
    > > >> >
    > > >> > Jeff
    > > >> >
    > > >> >
    > > >> >
    > > >> > "Micah Klesick (www.learnNOF.com)" <webmaster@learnNOF.com> wrote

    in
    >
    > > >> > message news:fa3ae0$sgi1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > > >> >> Not much of a constant test that way. I would recommend doing
    > > >> >> everything one way, as Nancy said, then how ever they nt.

    Otherwise
    > > >> >> there will be no real real results.
    > > >> >>
    > > >> >>
    > > >> >> --
    > > >> >> Micah Klesick
    > > >> >> www.learnNOF.com
    > > >> >> Flash video and PDF tutorials on
    > > >> >> NetObjects Fusion
    > > >> >> --
    > > >> >> For a Forum on NOF versions 8-10 go to
    > > >> >> www.learnNOF.com/index.php
    > > >> >> --
    > > >> >>
    > > >> >> "Jeff" <affirm@affirmware.com.au> wrote in message
    > > >> >> news:fa2u7q$pph8@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > > >> >>> Nancy,
    > > >> >>>
    > > >> >>> Let people go with what they have and they report back with
    > > >> >>> configuration.
    > > >> >>>
    > > >> >>> Jeff
    > > >> >>>
    > > >> >>> "Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
    > > >> >>> news:fa2sfv$ql63@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > > >> >>>> Questions so we are all on same page:
    > > >> >>>>
    > > >> >>>> Site settings:
    > > >> >>>>
    > > >> >>>> 1) Dynamic layout?
    > > >> >>>> ... with or w/o Netscape (there's a difference)___
    > > >> >>>>
    > > >> >>>> 2) Fixed page layout? ___
    > > >> >>>>
    > > >> >>>> 3) HTML output? _____
    > > >> >>>>
    > > >> >>>> 4) CSS output? ____
    > > >> >>>>
    > > >> >>>> 5) With default MasterBorders? ____
    > > >> >>>>
    > > >> >>>> 6) With ZeroMargins borders? ____
    > > >> >>>>
    > > >> >>>> Please respond to these 6 questions before we proceed.
    > > >> >>>>
    > > >> >>>> --N
    > > >> >>>>
    > > >> >>>>
    > > >> >>>> "Jeff" <affirm@affirmware.com.au> wrote in message
    > > >> >>>> news:fa2nes$ql62@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > > >> >>>>> Hello group,
    > > >> >>>>>
    > > >> >>>>> I am creating a new thread here to see if we can isolate some

    of
    > > >> >>>>> the
    > > >> >>>>> NetObject's slow running issues. I have come up with a couple

    of
    > > >> >>>>> tests for
    > > >> >>>>> users who are using table.
    > > >> >>>>>
    > > >> >>>>> Hopefully will help shed some light on the issue.
    > > >> >>>>>
    > > >> >>>>> (NOTE: make sure you create a backup before running test 2)
    > > >> >>>>>
    > > >> >>>>> Test 1.
    > > >> >>>>> Windows XP includes a utility called Performance Monitor that

    > will
    > > >> >>>>> monitor
    > > >> >>>>> just about anything your workstation does. It can be accessed

    by
    > > >> >>>>> typing
    > > >> >>>>> 'perfmon' from the Run command.
    > > >> >>>>>
    > > >> >>>>> So, in the table hit the enter about 15 time and type text then

    > hit
    > > >> >>>>> Alt
    > > >> >>>> Tab
    > > >> >>>>> to show the 'perfmon' utility and see how things are

    performing.
    > > >> >>>>>
    > > >> >>>>> For me it jumps up to between 85% to 100% on memory use.
    > > >> >>>>>
    > > >> >>>>> I think the code inside the table function in getting itself

    into
    > > >> >>>>> some
    > > >> >>>> kind
    > > >> >>>>> of recursive action.
    > > >> >>>>>
    > > >> >>>>> Report back on your findings.
    > > >> >>>>>
    > > >> >>>>>
    > > >> >>>>> Test 2.
    > > >> >>>>> Convert table to layout and see if the page speeds up. Then

    undo
    > > >> >>>>> changes
    > > >> >>>> so
    > > >> >>>>> you get back to the original table.
    > > >> >>>>>
    > > >> >>>>> When converted to Layout my page speeds up normal levels.
    > > >> >>>>>
    > > >> >>>>> Report back on your findings.
    > > >> >>>>>
    > > >> >>>>> Regards
    > > >> >>>>> Jeff
    > > >> >>>>>
    > > >> >>>>>
    > > >> >>>>
    > > >> >>>>
    > > >> >>>
    > > >> >>>
    > > >> >>
    > > >> >>
    > > >> >
    > > >> >
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >>

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
    >




  5. #15
    Micah Klesick \(www.learnNOF.com\)
    Guest

    Default Re: NetObjects Seepd Issues (Please run test and report back)

    Well, I know one thing, this post sure was slow. Please, do not put 1800KB
    on a single post anymore. :-)

    --
    Micah Klesick
    www.learnNOF.com
    Flash video and PDF tutorials on
    NetObjects Fusion
    --
    For a Forum on NOF versions 8-10 go to
    www.learnNOF.com/index.php
    --

    "Trimdoner" <ken@lrcars.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:fa4pq7$4td1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > Here's templates of an old site - made in 7.5 - which displays slow text
    > editing (for me anyway)
    > See if it does it for anyone else. The textspeed.zip is the original 7.5
    > site, textspeed10 is the the same site from template into 10, then
    > exported
    > again.
    >
    > As I've said before, I don't have any speed problems in 10 - this is just
    > a
    > minor quirk that appears now and again.
    >
    > Ken
    > "Micah Klesick (www.learnNOF.com)" <webmaster@learnNOF.com> wrote in
    > message
    > news:fa4fau$2re2@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> Mine said 20% when I started, and said 18% when I finished with the table
    >> test.
    >> Jeff, it might be your computer...
    >>
    >> --
    >> Micah Klesick
    >> www.learnNOF.com
    >> Flash video and PDF tutorials on
    >> NetObjects Fusion
    >> --
    >> For a Forum on NOF versions 8-10 go to
    >> www.learnNOF.com/index.php
    >> --
    >>
    >> "LBA" <webdesigns@no2spamabramsnet.com> wrote in message
    >> news:fa4cno$3hp1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> >I certainly do agree with Gary and Micah and Nancy, since your

    > instructions
    >> >are so vague that they provide no basis for evaluation, but just for

    > yucks,
    >> >I figured I'd give it a go. I opened NOF and the performance monitor
    >> >and
    >> >closed all other apps... at which point memory usage was at 38%... and

    > then
    >> >I created a table... at which point memory usage was at 38%... and then
    >> >I
    >> >converted the table to a layout region... at which point memory usage
    >> >was
    >> >at 38%. Proof positive... there is no bug.
    >> >
    >> > Laurence
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > Gary W Dumbleton wrote:
    >> >> I agree with Micah and Nancy,
    >> >>
    >> >> Gary
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >> "Jeff" <affirm@affirmware.com.au> wrote in message
    >> >> news:fa3gkg$sgi3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> >> > Hello,
    >> >> >
    >> >> > I am trying to get the net as wide as possable. This is not a

    > controled
    >> >> > test, its real life.
    >> >> >
    >> >> > Start putting constrants on it and you are not get real results.
    >> >> >
    >> >> > Jeff
    >> >> >
    >> >> >
    >> >> >
    >> >> > "Micah Klesick (www.learnNOF.com)" <webmaster@learnNOF.com> wrote in

    >
    >> >> > message news:fa3ae0$sgi1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> >> >> Not much of a constant test that way. I would recommend doing
    >> >> >> everything one way, as Nancy said, then how ever they nt.
    >> >> >> Otherwise
    >> >> >> there will be no real real results.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> --
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    >> >> >> NetObjects Fusion
    >> >> >> --
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    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> "Jeff" <affirm@affirmware.com.au> wrote in message
    >> >> >> news:fa2u7q$pph8@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> >> >>> Nancy,
    >> >> >>>
    >> >> >>> Let people go with what they have and they report back with
    >> >> >>> configuration.
    >> >> >>>
    >> >> >>> Jeff
    >> >> >>>
    >> >> >>> "Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
    >> >> >>> news:fa2sfv$ql63@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> >> >>>> Questions so we are all on same page:
    >> >> >>>>
    >> >> >>>> Site settings:
    >> >> >>>>
    >> >> >>>> 1) Dynamic layout?
    >> >> >>>> ... with or w/o Netscape (there's a difference)___
    >> >> >>>>
    >> >> >>>> 2) Fixed page layout? ___
    >> >> >>>>
    >> >> >>>> 3) HTML output? _____
    >> >> >>>>
    >> >> >>>> 4) CSS output? ____
    >> >> >>>>
    >> >> >>>> 5) With default MasterBorders? ____
    >> >> >>>>
    >> >> >>>> 6) With ZeroMargins borders? ____
    >> >> >>>>
    >> >> >>>> Please respond to these 6 questions before we proceed.
    >> >> >>>>
    >> >> >>>> --N
    >> >> >>>>
    >> >> >>>>
    >> >> >>>> "Jeff" <affirm@affirmware.com.au> wrote in message
    >> >> >>>> news:fa2nes$ql62@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> >> >>>>> Hello group,
    >> >> >>>>>
    >> >> >>>>> I am creating a new thread here to see if we can isolate some of
    >> >> >>>>> the
    >> >> >>>>> NetObject's slow running issues. I have come up with a couple of
    >> >> >>>>> tests for
    >> >> >>>>> users who are using table.
    >> >> >>>>>
    >> >> >>>>> Hopefully will help shed some light on the issue.
    >> >> >>>>>
    >> >> >>>>> (NOTE: make sure you create a backup before running test 2)
    >> >> >>>>>
    >> >> >>>>> Test 1.
    >> >> >>>>> Windows XP includes a utility called Performance Monitor that

    > will
    >> >> >>>>> monitor
    >> >> >>>>> just about anything your workstation does. It can be accessed by
    >> >> >>>>> typing
    >> >> >>>>> 'perfmon' from the Run command.
    >> >> >>>>>
    >> >> >>>>> So, in the table hit the enter about 15 time and type text then

    > hit
    >> >> >>>>> Alt
    >> >> >>>> Tab
    >> >> >>>>> to show the 'perfmon' utility and see how things are performing.
    >> >> >>>>>
    >> >> >>>>> For me it jumps up to between 85% to 100% on memory use.
    >> >> >>>>>
    >> >> >>>>> I think the code inside the table function in getting itself
    >> >> >>>>> into
    >> >> >>>>> some
    >> >> >>>> kind
    >> >> >>>>> of recursive action.
    >> >> >>>>>
    >> >> >>>>> Report back on your findings.
    >> >> >>>>>
    >> >> >>>>>
    >> >> >>>>> Test 2.
    >> >> >>>>> Convert table to layout and see if the page speeds up. Then undo
    >> >> >>>>> changes
    >> >> >>>> so
    >> >> >>>>> you get back to the original table.
    >> >> >>>>>
    >> >> >>>>> When converted to Layout my page speeds up normal levels.
    >> >> >>>>>
    >> >> >>>>> Report back on your findings.
    >> >> >>>>>
    >> >> >>>>> Regards
    >> >> >>>>> Jeff
    >> >> >>>>>
    >> >> >>>>>
    >> >> >>>>
    >> >> >>>>
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