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  1. #1
    Boris
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    Default NOFv11 not ready for prime time

    It seems to happen more in this version often where I get the "Damaged
    objects have been found on the page and have been deleted" message when
    trying to Preview it or Publish. In one case (see attachment) I have the
    following setup:

    - zero margin page with background colour set
    - Fixed page layout
    - 1 Picture Object

    That's it! Basically one page & One object. I have tried to optimize,
    same error. What I found usually works most times is to export as a
    template and then start a new version by importing.

    Anybody else experience that?

    Thanks,

    Boris



  2. #2
    Charles Edmonds
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    Default Re: NOFv11 not ready for prime time

    On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 01:25:12 -0500, Boris wrote:

    > It seems to happen more in this version often where I get the "Damaged
    > objects have been found on the page and have been deleted" message when
    > trying to Preview it or Publish. In one case (see attachment) I have the
    > following setup:
    >
    > - zero margin page with background colour set
    > - Fixed page layout
    > - 1 Picture Object
    >
    > That's it! Basically one page & One object. I have tried to optimize,
    > same error. What I found usually works most times is to export as a
    > template and then start a new version by importing.
    >
    > Anybody else experience that?


    Boris,

    We do a lot of work with NOF11, some of it with zero margins, but we never
    use fixed layout as it does NOT render well across all browsers.

    I don't know if this makes a difference to your problem or not, but we have
    never experienced the error you are reporting.

    Do you have the update to V11 applied?


    Charles



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  3. #3
    Ken Adam
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    Default Re: NOFv11 not ready for prime time

    Boris,
    I've had the "damaged objects" message many times.
    I now keep an unused Masterborder copy of every masterborder that I use, so
    I can restore it quickly (and immediately make a new copy)
    (I'm using semantic XHTML, so it isn't a "fixed layout" issue)

    Most often happens on switching from Site view to page view, but I can't
    spot anything else that is common

    Ken



  4. #4
    Twayne
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    Default Re: NOFv11 not ready for prime time

    > On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 01:25:12 -0500, Boris wrote:
    >
    >> It seems to happen more in this version often
    >> where I
    >> get the "Damaged objects have been found on the
    >> page and
    >> have been deleted" message when trying to
    >> Preview it or
    >> Publish. In one case (see attachment) I have
    >> the
    >> following setup:
    >>
    >> - zero margin page with background colour set
    >> - Fixed page layout
    >> - 1 Picture Object
    >>
    >> That's it! Basically one page & One object.
    >> I have
    >> tried to optimize, same error. What I found
    >> usually
    >> works most times is to export as a template and
    >> then
    >> start a new version by importing.
    >>
    >> Anybody else experience that?

    >
    > Boris,
    >
    > We do a lot of work with NOF11, some of it with
    > zero
    > margins, but we never use fixed layout as it
    > does NOT
    > render well across all browsers.
    >
    > I don't know if this makes a difference to your
    > problem
    > or not, but we have never experienced the error
    > you are
    > reporting.
    >
    > Do you have the update to V11 applied?
    >
    >
    > Charles


    Charles,

    Please do NOT use the word "we" as you just
    did. That includes ME and I forbid anyone to
    speak for me! Or if it means you and another
    user, company, whatever, please say so! Your
    current grammar speaks for the entire group and
    you cannot do that.

    Twayne



  5. #5
    Ian
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    Default Re: NOFv11 not ready for prime time

    Twayne,

    The "We" Charles is using, I am sure is the same "WE" that I use and refers
    to the collective of his or my company not the collective of these news
    groups. It is a common term for expressing the collective for a company and
    one that I am certainly not going to stop using. Many people use it in these
    groups and it's never been mis-interpreted before. Would you rather he said
    "My company and I" in much the same way as the Queen in the UK refers to "My
    husband and I" Sounds a bit condescending! I think you totally over
    reacted there and (if I am correct) then I believe Charles deserves an
    apology.

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    "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
    news:gm78c1$8002@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 01:25:12 -0500, Boris wrote:
    >>
    >>> It seems to happen more in this version often where I
    >>> get the "Damaged objects have been found on the page and
    >>> have been deleted" message when trying to Preview it or
    >>> Publish. In one case (see attachment) I have the
    >>> following setup:
    >>>
    >>> - zero margin page with background colour set
    >>> - Fixed page layout
    >>> - 1 Picture Object
    >>>
    >>> That's it! Basically one page & One object. I have
    >>> tried to optimize, same error. What I found usually
    >>> works most times is to export as a template and then
    >>> start a new version by importing.
    >>>
    >>> Anybody else experience that?

    >>
    >> Boris,
    >>
    >> We do a lot of work with NOF11, some of it with zero
    >> margins, but we never use fixed layout as it does NOT
    >> render well across all browsers.
    >>
    >> I don't know if this makes a difference to your problem
    >> or not, but we have never experienced the error you are
    >> reporting.
    >>
    >> Do you have the update to V11 applied?
    >>
    >>
    >> Charles

    >
    > Charles,
    >
    > Please do NOT use the word "we" as you just did. That includes ME and I
    > forbid anyone to speak for me! Or if it means you and another user,
    > company, whatever, please say so! Your current grammar speaks for the
    > entire group and you cannot do that.
    >
    > Twayne
    >
    >




  6. #6
    Peter Phelan
    Guest

    Default Re: NOFv11 not ready for prime time

    >> I think you totally over
    reacted there and (if I am correct) then I believe Charles deserves an
    apology.<<

    I agree; you are the one Twayne needing to study grammar. In no way did
    Charles' reply indicate he was speaking on behalf of anyone, or collectively,
    for the newsgroup.

    Peter


    On Mon, Feb 2 2009 5:41 pm, "Ian" <ianh@1ahost.co.uk> said:
    >Twayne,
    >
    >The "We" Charles is using, I am sure is the same "WE" that I use and refers
    >to the collective of his or my company not the collective of these news
    >groups. It is a common term for expressing the collective for a company and
    >one that I am certainly not going to stop using. Many people use it in these
    >groups and it's never been mis-interpreted before. Would you rather he said
    >"My company and I" in much the same way as the Queen in the UK refers to "My
    >husband and I" Sounds a bit condescending! I think you totally over
    >reacted there and (if I am correct) then I believe Charles deserves an
    >apology.
    >
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    >
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    >
    >
    >"Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
    >news:gm78c1$8002@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com. ..
    >>> On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 01:25:12 -0500, Boris wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> It seems to happen more in this version often where I
    >>>> get the "Damaged objects have been found on the page and
    >>>> have been deleted" message when trying to Preview it or
    >>>> Publish. In one case (see attachment) I have the
    >>>> following setup:
    >>>>
    >>>> - zero margin page with background colour set
    >>>> - Fixed page layout
    >>>> - 1 Picture Object
    >>>>
    >>>> That's it! Basically one page & One object. I have
    >>>> tried to optimize, same error. What I found usually
    >>>> works most times is to export as a template and then
    >>>> start a new version by importing.
    >>>>
    >>>> Anybody else experience that?
    >>>
    >>> Boris,
    >>>
    >>> We do a lot of work with NOF11, some of it with zero
    >>> margins, but we never use fixed layout as it does NOT
    >>> render well across all browsers.
    >>>
    >>> I don't know if this makes a difference to your problem
    >>> or not, but we have never experienced the error you are
    >>> reporting.
    >>>
    >>> Do you have the update to V11 applied?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Charles

    >>
    >> Charles,
    >>
    >> Please do NOT use the word "we" as you just did. That includes ME and I
    >> forbid anyone to speak for me! Or if it means you and another user,
    >> company, whatever, please say so! Your current grammar speaks for the
    >> entire group and you cannot do that.
    >>
    >> Twayne
    >>
    >>

    >
    >




  7. #7
    =?iso-8859-1?Q?Chuck_=ABBeyondFusion=BB?=
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    Default Re: NOFv11 not ready for prime time

    Correct. Charles' "we" clearly meant his company, rather than newsgroup
    users en masse.

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    "Peter Phelan" wrote in message news:1_101_2864@gfwebforum.com...
    >>> I think you totally over

    > reacted there and (if I am correct) then I believe Charles deserves an
    > apology.<<
    >
    > I agree; you are the one Twayne needing to study grammar. In no way did
    > Charles' reply indicate he was speaking on behalf of anyone, or
    > collectively,
    > for the newsgroup.
    >
    > Peter
    >
    >
    > On Mon, Feb 2 2009 5:41 pm, "Ian" <ianh@1ahost.co.uk> said:
    >>Twayne,
    >>
    >>The "We" Charles is using, I am sure is the same "WE" that I use and
    >>refers
    >>to the collective of his or my company not the collective of these news
    >>groups. It is a common term for expressing the collective for a company
    >>and
    >>one that I am certainly not going to stop using. Many people use it in
    >>these
    >>groups and it's never been mis-interpreted before. Would you rather he
    >>said
    >>"My company and I" in much the same way as the Queen in the UK refers to
    >>"My
    >>husband and I" Sounds a bit condescending! I think you totally over
    >>reacted there and (if I am correct) then I believe Charles deserves an
    >>apology.
    >>
    >>--
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    >>1AHost
    >>
    >>Free Web Hosting - PHP & MySQL Hosting
    >>Resellers and Affiliates Schemes
    >>www.1ahost.co.uk
    >>
    >>
    >>"Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
    >>news:gm78c1$8002@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com ...
    >>>> On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 01:25:12 -0500, Boris wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> It seems to happen more in this version often where I
    >>>>> get the "Damaged objects have been found on the page and
    >>>>> have been deleted" message when trying to Preview it or
    >>>>> Publish. In one case (see attachment) I have the
    >>>>> following setup:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> - zero margin page with background colour set
    >>>>> - Fixed page layout
    >>>>> - 1 Picture Object
    >>>>>
    >>>>> That's it! Basically one page & One object. I have
    >>>>> tried to optimize, same error. What I found usually
    >>>>> works most times is to export as a template and then
    >>>>> start a new version by importing.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Anybody else experience that?
    >>>>
    >>>> Boris,
    >>>>
    >>>> We do a lot of work with NOF11, some of it with zero
    >>>> margins, but we never use fixed layout as it does NOT
    >>>> render well across all browsers.
    >>>>
    >>>> I don't know if this makes a difference to your problem
    >>>> or not, but we have never experienced the error you are
    >>>> reporting.
    >>>>
    >>>> Do you have the update to V11 applied?
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Charles
    >>>
    >>> Charles,
    >>>
    >>> Please do NOT use the word "we" as you just did. That includes ME and
    >>> I
    >>> forbid anyone to speak for me! Or if it means you and another user,
    >>> company, whatever, please say so! Your current grammar speaks for the
    >>> entire group and you cannot do that.
    >>>
    >>> Twayne
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >



  8. #8
    Charles Edmonds
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    Default Re: NOFv11 not ready for prime time

    On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:52:23 -0500, Twayne wrote:

    >> We do a lot of work with NOF11...

    >
    > Please do NOT use the word "we" as you just
    > did. That includes ME and I forbid anyone to
    > speak for me! Or if it means you and another
    > user, company, whatever, please say so! Your
    > current grammar speaks for the entire group and
    > you cannot do that.



    Twayne,

    As others have pointed out, in this case YOU are not a part of WE<g>.

    I don't know what YOU or the GROUP do and would not presume to speak so
    broadly on your collective behalf's.

    "We" (as in the correct reference to "our company") do as stated.

    I believe that if you check other posts in this newsgroup that you'd find
    that any time I made a reference to what the group does, it is usually in
    the context of "Most of us around here" or something to that effect.

    That obviously gives you the ability to opt out of that reference<g>.

    Anyway, no need to worry about it.

    :-)

    Take care,

    Charles





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  9. #9
    Garret Mott
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    Default Re: NOFv11 not ready for prime time

    And here I was figuring it was the royal "we". You mean you *don't* have a
    mouse in your pocket? <vbg>

    Garret

    "Charles Edmonds" <cje_ByteMeSpammers_@lansrad.com> wrote in message
    news:1bf5a1s1ttwew.r1behzll9rf4.dlg@40tude.net...
    > On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:52:23 -0500, Twayne wrote:
    >
    >>> We do a lot of work with NOF11...

    >>
    >> Please do NOT use the word "we" as you just
    >> did. That includes ME and I forbid anyone to
    >> speak for me! Or if it means you and another
    >> user, company, whatever, please say so! Your
    >> current grammar speaks for the entire group and
    >> you cannot do that.

    >
    >
    > Twayne,
    >
    > As others have pointed out, in this case YOU are not a part of WE<g>.
    >
    > I don't know what YOU or the GROUP do and would not presume to speak so
    > broadly on your collective behalf's.
    >
    > "We" (as in the correct reference to "our company") do as stated.
    >
    > I believe that if you check other posts in this newsgroup that you'd find
    > that any time I made a reference to what the group does, it is usually in
    > the context of "Most of us around here" or something to that effect.
    >
    > That obviously gives you the ability to opt out of that reference<g>.
    >
    > Anyway, no need to worry about it.
    >
    > :-)
    >
    > Take care,
    >
    > Charles
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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  10. #10
    Charles Edmonds
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    On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:04:27 -0500, Garret Mott wrote:

    > And here I was figuring it was the royal "we". You mean you *don't* have a
    > mouse in your pocket? <vbg>


    LOL - not even Mighty Mouse<g>

    :-)

    Charles


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