Video Streaming

I have a website created using NOF 10 and I have a full video that I am
trying to stream or publish on my site. Any ideas if I can do this with NOF
10 or any way of doing this?

Thanks
Eddie

[MSH-I]

Hi Eddie,

I'm not an expert on such things, and anyone reading who can improve are
more than welcome to, but because of a project I was involved in last
year I discovered some things to be considered when playing video from a
server.

One hugh issue is the type of server that you'll be 'streaming' from.
The bandwidth taken up by the video is the issue here. When more than a
couple of people click to watch it simultaneously you stand the chance
of choking the bandwidth coming out of your server unless the server is
a multi-media server.

During our beta of the PHP scripts used to deliver some video, we tried
to use a 'standard' high bandwidth server, but it choked soon after the
beta was initiated. The multi-media server is designed to deliver
high-bandwidth content and the software on the server provides for
multiple 'streams' without sacrificing streaming quality.

Providing for the proper server, the video feed from a NOF 10 video
plug-in shouldn't cause you any problems. The NOF video plug-ins allow
the video to be delivered much like delivering a typical file. The
plug-ins contain the html code used to open the viewers player and
delivers the content to the player. In that regard, the plug-ins are
typical of the many scripts available that can be used to deliver video.

Hope this helps.

Mark

Thanks a lot Mark for your input. The multi media server you are talking
about, should it be on my ISP's end or my local system? Never done anything
with Video before and I am new to NOF. Thanks for your response. I
appreciate you sharing some light.

Eddie
"MSH-I" <mdsk@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:g61ui0$93t1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> Hi Eddie,
>
> I'm not an expert on such things, and anyone reading who can improve are
> more than welcome to, but because of a project I was involved in last year
> I discovered some things to be considered when playing video from a
> server.
>
> One hugh issue is the type of server that you'll be 'streaming' from. The
> bandwidth taken up by the video is the issue here. When more than a
> couple of people click to watch it simultaneously you stand the chance of
> choking the bandwidth coming out of your server unless the server is a
> multi-media server.
>
> During our beta of the PHP scripts used to deliver some video, we tried to
> use a 'standard' high bandwidth server, but it choked soon after the beta
> was initiated. The multi-media server is designed to deliver
> high-bandwidth content and the software on the server provides for
> multiple 'streams' without sacrificing streaming quality.
>
> Providing for the proper server, the video feed from a NOF 10 video
> plug-in shouldn't cause you any problems. The NOF video plug-ins allow
> the video to be delivered much like delivering a typical file. The
> plug-ins contain the html code used to open the viewers player and
> delivers the content to the player. In that regard, the plug-ins are
> typical of the many scripts available that can be used to deliver video.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Mark

[LBA]

Steaming that I've done has been on a small scale, where one wouldn't
have hundreds of people accessing content one time. No problems have
been observed and no need for a streaming server was required. If you
don't expect large volume, you may want to just build your NOF page to
display video in whatever format you choose, and then see how it goes...
see if current server capabilities are sufficient. This would not be
good advice for a large commercial implementation where a server
slowdown costs your client money, but on a small scale, it's probably a
good way to start off.... and may well not require you to do anything
further.

Laurence


eddie.oyakhilome@berichllc.com wrote:
> I have a website created using NOF 10 and I have a full video that I am
> trying to stream or publish on my site. Any ideas if I can do this with NOF
> 10 or any way of doing this?
>
> Thanks
> Eddie
>
>
>

[MSH-I]

Eddie,

This may bring on more discussion than you expected, but here goes:

To answer your question, I'd recommend finding someone to handle the
server issues. I've found that some larger ISP's will provide the
service.

It appears to be a 'specialty' area, and there are companies who host
'server farms' for the explicit purpose of feeding up multi-media
streams. Since I'm located in central North Carolina, we used a
Charlotte, NC company for distributing our multi-media.
The company is EdgeCast. http://www.edgecast.com/

The way we've used them is:

a) our video sits on our standard server

b) a 'fat url' link on our page goes to their multi-media server (mm
server), and tells their server where to find the video on our server

c) their mm server pulls the video off of our server only once

d) subsequent 'hits' to the video link on our page will be fed off of
their mm server

e) we pay for the bandwidth used on their mm server

(A 'fat url' is a url with extra 'stuff' tagged onto the end. This is a
method used to pass information between servers, or between two pages on
the same server. Google 'fat url'.)

(Disclosure: I'm not affiliated with EdgeCast in any way, and only have
experience with them through last year's project. I wasn't involved in
the procurement of them for the project, and only have knowledge of them
through the project, and do not receive any benefits whatsoever from
them for sharing this information. EdgeCast should be contacted to
verify all the information I've given is correct.)


For you to set this up on your end you would need to supply 1) a big
'pipe'[bandwidth] and 2) a server with multi-media server software.

(Remember, the multi-media plug-in that you will place on the html page
will take care of displaying the video to the viewer, or your ISP may
provide specific scripts to display your content.)

With entry-level knowledge into the world of serving up video, I'd
recommend googling multi-media streaming. You'll quickly see that
'video on the web' has a world unto its own.

A good tutorial on what 'streaming' is, the technology surrounding it,
and issues involved can be found at:

http://streaming.wisconsin.edu/under...nderstand.html

Mark

[Keith]

Eddie,

I use Google Video for all my videos. They accept a variety of file
formats. It's free! No file size limitations! Video degrades a little
due to conversion to Flash, but very acceptable if size is kept small
(250 to 300 pixels wide). Just upload and use the EMBED Code provided by
Google to place it on your page of choice (use text box and choose
"Insert HTML") with Fusion. Change the "size" (width and height) to
suit your layout. See Examples:

http://www.britishcarspecialists.com
http://www.lmhfoundation.org

Keith
SeeLodi.com



eddie.oyakhilome@berichllc.com wrote:
> I have a website created using NOF 10 and I have a full video that I am
> trying to stream or publish on my site. Any ideas if I can do this with NOF
> 10 or any way of doing this?
>
> Thanks
> Eddie
>
>

[MSH-I]

Laurence,

I agree. If I can add more without seeming argumentative...

If you're wanting to serve to a small audience, I agree, you should be
able to do it from your current ISP's server.

Consider your video size and your audience size when making a decision.
For example, an average resolution video format recorded for one
minute and twenty seconds comes to 5.3 megabytes in size.

Mark



LBA wrote:
> Steaming that I've done has been on a small scale, where one wouldn't
> have hundreds of people accessing content one time. No problems have
> been observed and no need for a streaming server was required. If you
> don't expect large volume, you may want to just build your NOF page to
> display video in whatever format you choose, and then see how it goes...
> see if current server capabilities are sufficient. This would not be
> good advice for a large commercial implementation where a server
> slowdown costs your client money, but on a small scale, it's probably a
> good way to start off.... and may well not require you to do anything
> further.
>
> Laurence
>
>
> eddie.oyakhilome@berichllc.com wrote:
>> I have a website created using NOF 10 and I have a full video that I
>> am trying to stream or publish on my site. Any ideas if I can do this
>> with NOF 10 or any way of doing this?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Eddie
>>
>>

[Nancy O]

Most mom and pop shops don't have the funds necessary for maintaining a
dedicated streaming server. As Keith suggests, uploading your native video
to YouTube or one of the other video sharing sites is a great way to serve
your videos to your audience without busting your server.
The beauty of YouTube (owned by Google) is that it's free; they carry the
bandwidth on their dedicated streaming servers; your video is automatically
converted to Flash Video (a
widely supported format) and you get some publicity for your site.

--Nancy O.
Alt-Web Design & Publishing
www.alt-web.com



<eddie.oyakhilome@berichllc.com> wrote in message
news:g6086e$23l4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> I have a website created using NOF 10 and I have a full video that I am
> trying to stream or publish on my site. Any ideas if I can do this with
NOF
> 10 or any way of doing this?
>
> Thanks
> Eddie
>
>

[MSH-I]

Sorry, my mistake. I understood the question to be about streaming or
publishing on his site. Of course, if one wants to link to an outside
site to show the video, there are those options.

Mark



Nancy O wrote:
> Most mom and pop shops don't have the funds necessary for maintaining a
> dedicated streaming server. As Keith suggests, uploading your native video
> to YouTube or one of the other video sharing sites is a great way to serve
> your videos to your audience without busting your server.
> The beauty of YouTube (owned by Google) is that it's free; they carry the
> bandwidth on their dedicated streaming servers; your video is automatically
> converted to Flash Video (a
> widely supported format) and you get some publicity for your site.
>
> --Nancy O.
> Alt-Web Design & Publishing
> www.alt-web.com
>
>
>
> <eddie.oyakhilome@berichllc.com> wrote in message
> news:g6086e$23l4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> I have a website created using NOF 10 and I have a full video that I am
>> trying to stream or publish on my site. Any ideas if I can do this with
> NOF
>> 10 or any way of doing this?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Eddie
>>
>>
>
>
>

[JJ]

I use the following MC Altair Media Player -
http://www.mcmediaplayer.com/player/altair/index.html (click on Setup
Wizard, it's easy). It's free and is using the file from your own ISP as
opposed to streaming. Simply grab the code it generates for you and create
a text box, then press CTRL+T and drop in the code. Grab the files and put
them into the same directory and all you then need to do is create an FLV
file from your video. This can be done with the free Riva FLV Encoder -
http://rivavx.de/index.php?encoder&L=3

To create a video from a DVD, simply change the extension on the larger .VOB
file to .MPG and then use it in Riva FLV Encoder.

One issue some people do have with uploading to YouTube is that you
effectively hand over intellectual property of your video to them, not a
problem for some, but can be an issue to others.


"MSH-I" <mdsk@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:g62s2k$bdn5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> Sorry, my mistake. I understood the question to be about streaming or
> publishing on his site. Of course, if one wants to link to an outside
> site to show the video, there are those options.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> Nancy O wrote:
>> Most mom and pop shops don't have the funds necessary for maintaining a
>> dedicated streaming server. As Keith suggests, uploading your native
>> video
>> to YouTube or one of the other video sharing sites is a great way to
>> serve
>> your videos to your audience without busting your server.
>> The beauty of YouTube (owned by Google) is that it's free; they carry the
>> bandwidth on their dedicated streaming servers; your video is
>> automatically
>> converted to Flash Video (a
>> widely supported format) and you get some publicity for your site.
>>
>> --Nancy O.
>> Alt-Web Design & Publishing
>> www.alt-web.com
>>
>>
>>
>> <eddie.oyakhilome@berichllc.com> wrote in message
>> news:g6086e$23l4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>>> I have a website created using NOF 10 and I have a full video that I am
>>> trying to stream or publish on my site. Any ideas if I can do this with
>> NOF
>>> 10 or any way of doing this?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Eddie
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>