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  1. #11
    Nancy O
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    Default Re: Replies to inquiry forms.

    If you go to the contact form on my website, and disable CSS you will see a
    hidden or empty form field called "nospam". This field will never get
    filled in by humans but spambots will likely see it and fill it in. Hence,
    it's a very simple way to stop robot submission of forms.

    <form action="formmailer2.php" method="post" enctype="multipart/form-data"
    id="form1" />
    <input name="config" type="hidden" value="0" />
    <input type="text" name="nospam" value="0" style="display:none;" />

    Then in the php script:

    // Antispam Options
    $empty_field[0]="nospam";
    $flag_spam[0]="";

    When the nospam field is filled-in, the form will not submit and you will
    not receive any message. If you add something to the $flag_spam entry, you
    will recieve a message flagged as spam with whatever variable you give it.
    Example: ***JUNK*** or **This is Spam**


    HTH,
    --Nancy O.
    Alt-Web Design & Publishing
    www.alt-web.com

    "Roger H" <hughes_roger@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:gd3dt2$t7d3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > I've printed the instructions and read them two or three times. I would

    say
    > I needed the Empty field method, but Dan's terminology to be for people

    who
    > understand it, and I can't make it work. For instance ".....variable will
    > hold the name of the empty field in your form." I don't know what on

    earth
    > that means in plain English. I keep getting two errors when I place this

    new
    > formmailer in my site. "you are missing the N field, and your are missing
    > the E field....etc." Neither of these was an error on the old form, and
    > they are not addressed in the instructions.
    > Thanks for your help Nancy, but I'm sticking with what I've got. Life is

    too
    > short to be messing about with this stuff.
    >
    > "Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote in message
    > news:gd38m6$t7d1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > > <But would I be correct in assuming the Anti-spam options are pre-set

    and
    > > I
    > > don't have to do anything to them? >
    > >
    > > No. You must decide which if any anti-spam methods you want to use and
    > > then
    > > implement them into your forms and script according to the instructions.
    > > Re-read the anti-spam section a few times.
    > >
    > > <can I eliminate the "options to use if hidden field "config" has a

    value
    > > of 1", and thereby shorten the script?>
    > >
    > > I wouldn't. The bytes saved by shortening the script would be

    negligible
    > > and you may have need of these values later to process a different form.
    > >
    > >
    > > --Nancy O.
    > > Alt-Web Design & Publishing
    > > www.alt-web.com
    > >
    > > "Roger H" <hughes_roger@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:gd31l1$s0s8@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > >> Thanks Nancy, I found that and have read it through. It's a fabulous

    > > little
    > >> piece of kit, but all I have ever done is just fill in the
    > >> $referring_domains, tomail, and Bcc_tomail, because the rest is beyond
    > >> me.
    > >> But would I be correct in assuming the Anti-spam options are pre-set

    and
    > >> I
    > >> don't have to do anything to them? Also, can I eliminate the "options

    to
    > > use
    > >> if hidden field "config" has a value of 1", and thereby shorten the

    > > script?
    > >>
    > >> "Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote in message
    > >> news:gd2urr$s0s5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > >> > Unzip the formmailer download. From your browser, Go to the folder

    > > where
    > >> > you keep your downloads. Open the Formailer folder > Docs >
    > >> > Index.html.
    > >> > Read the instructions.
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > Nancy O.
    > >> > www.alt-web.com/Tutorials/
    > >> > NOF Tips & Tutorials
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > "Roger H" <hughes_roger@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > >> > news:gd2tdl$s0s4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > >> >> Sorry to be so thick Nancy but you've lost me there. I've downloaded
    > >> >> Dan's
    > >> >> latest version and ordered his book. I am using HTML output for the
    > >> >> forms.
    > >> >> what do I do next?
    > >> >>
    > >> >> "Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote in message
    > >> >> news:gd0d8d$it33@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > >> >> > If you are not using the latest version (4.5), go to the website

    and
    > >> >> > get
    > >> >> > it.
    > >> >> > Read the documentation that comes with it. If you are using html

    > > pages
    > >> > for
    > >> >> > your forms, put a "hidden field" in your form. Robots don't use
    > >> >> > CSS.
    > >> >> > They
    > >> >> > will input garbage into the hidden field and submission of the

    form
    > >> >> > will
    > >> >> > fail. Another trick is to limit URLs in textarea and comments
    > >> >> > fields
    > >> >> > to
    > >> > 0
    > >> >> > or 1. This also prohibits the form from being submitted.
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> > http://www.dbmasters.net/index.php?id=4
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> > --Nancy O.
    > >> >> > Alt-Web Design & Publishing
    > >> >> > www.alt-web.com
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> > "Roger H" <hughes_roger@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > >> >> > news:gd0c36$it32@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > >> >> >> Hi Nancy,
    > >> >> >> I am using Formailer php but I don't know about its spam control?
    > >> >> >> Is
    > >> >> >> it
    > >> >> >> automatic or do you have to implement something?
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> "Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote in message
    > >> >> >> news:gd03nc$hot2@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > >> >> >> > Phishing is when a sender or website pretends to be an entity

    it
    > >> > isn't
    > >> >> > in
    > >> >> >> > an
    > >> >> >> > attempt to illegally gather sensitive information from clients

    > > such
    > >> > as
    > >> >> >> > credit card #, usernames & passwords.
    > >> >> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phishing
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> > Sounds to me like Spambots are exploiting your forms. Are you

    > > using
    > >> >> >> > the
    > >> >> >> > formmailer php script from db masters with spam control? We

    were
    > >> >> > getting
    > >> >> >> > 100+ robot spam submissions per day on one site. Since I
    > >> >> >> > implemented
    > >> >> >> > formmailer, we are getting 0.
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> > Don't waste time responding to this junk. Chances are the IP
    > >> > addresses
    > >> >> >> > are
    > >> >> >> > disguised and phony.
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> > --Nancy O.
    > >> >> >> > Alt-Web Design & Publishing
    > >> >> >> > www.alt-web.com
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> > "Roger H" <hughes_roger@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > >> >> >> > news:gcvn76$g962@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > >> >> >> >> Many of my websites have inquiry forms, and just lately we

    have
    > >> >> >> >> been
    > >> >> >> >> receiving an annoying number of replies which contain just

    > > numbers
    > >> > and
    > >> >> >> >> gobbledygook in the required fields. I just delete these,

    > > thinking
    > >> >> >> >> they
    > >> >> >> > are
    > >> >> >> >> some sort of phishing, but could anyone suggest what they

    > > actually
    > >> >> >> >> are,
    > >> >> >> > and
    > >> >> >> >> why the sudden increase from about one or two a week to about
    > >> > twenty?
    > >> >> > By
    > >> >> >> > the
    > >> >> >> >> way, the IP address is also included, so is there any merit in
    > >> > aiming
    > >> >> >> >> something back at the senders?
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >

    > >
    > >




  2. #12
    Allison Moore
    Guest

    Default Re: Replies to inquiry forms.

    Thanks, Nancy! I'll take another whack at it when I get a break.

    Allison

    > If you go to the contact form on my website, and disable CSS you will see a
    > hidden or empty form field called "nospam". This field will never get
    > filled in by humans but spambots will likely see it and fill it in. Hence,
    > it's a very simple way to stop robot submission of forms.
    >
    > <form action="formmailer2.php" method="post" enctype="multipart/form-data"
    > id="form1" />
    > <input name="config" type="hidden" value="0" />
    > <input type="text" name="nospam" value="0" style="display:none;" />
    >
    > Then in the php script:
    >
    > // Antispam Options
    > $empty_field[0]="nospam";
    > $flag_spam[0]="";
    >
    > When the nospam field is filled-in, the form will not submit and you will
    > not receive any message. If you add something to the $flag_spam entry, you
    > will recieve a message flagged as spam with whatever variable you give it.
    > Example: ***JUNK*** or **This is Spam**




  3. #13
    Allison Moore
    Guest

    Default Re: Replies to inquiry forms.

    Hi Nancy

    http://www.metahealth.com/html/contact.php

    I've been working on implementing the hidden nospam field in our site,
    but I'm doing something wrong.
    The form with the nospam field works with the previous version of the
    formm@iler script, but not the one to which I added the two Antispam
    Options as shown below.

    Right now, the script on the website is the one that works, but the
    contact*.php files include the hidden field.

    > If you go to the contact form on my website, and disable CSS you will see a
    > hidden or empty form field called "nospam". This field will never get
    > filled in by humans but spambots will likely see it and fill it in. Hence,
    > it's a very simple way to stop robot submission of forms.


    > <form action="formmailer2.php" method="post" enctype="multipart/form-data"
    > id="form1" />
    > <input name="config" type="hidden" value="0" />
    > <input type="text" name="nospam" value="0" style="display:none;" />


    > Then in the php script:
    >
    > // Antispam Options
    > $empty_field[0]="nospam";
    > $flag_spam[0]="";


    a) Is "form 1" the name the form object has in NOF?

    b) How do you specify "display:none" for the hidden nospam field? I can
    see how to do it for the layout region, but not for the individual field.

    c) In your example, you have "0" as the value in the nospam spec and ""
    as the value for $flag_spam in the script. Should the values be the
    same, or does it not matter?

    Allison



  4. #14
    Nancy O
    Guest

    Default Re: Replies to inquiry forms.

    Hi Allison,

    Here's a basic tut on using Formmailer 4.5 in NOF10.
    http://alt-web.com/Tutorials/formmailer-tutorial.html

    HTH, :-)
    --
    Nancy O.
    Alt-Web Design & Publishing
    www.alt-web.com



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