OT... new computer recommendations?

[Mark Reed]

Peter Eisenburger <nospam@nospam-at-all.de> wrote in news:dogfcv$q9c1
@news01.netobjects.com:

> Chuck «BeyondFusion» wrote:
>
>> Inachu,
>>
>> From what I've heard, there are no plans for selling through retail
>> outlets.
>
> What? They wanna save the money for boxed versions? Then I can give one
> advice: the most money they can save is to not sell the product at all.
>
> Don't want to sound harsh. But visibility on warehouse shelves is
> important for the product being taken serious at the marketplace.
>
> I can only imagine you mean "before Xmas".
>
> Peter
>
>>
>> Strictly via the web right now. At least in the U.S.
>>
>
>

well said Peter... NOF should be on the shelves.





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[NetObjects Support]

Peter,

9.0 has a boxed version but is available through the web store only.
Regarding the retail outlets: no plans for current version.

Technical Support Team
support@netobjects.com

Peter Eisenburger wrote:
> Chuck «BeyondFusion» wrote:
>
>> Inachu,
>>
>> From what I've heard, there are no plans for selling through retail
>> outlets.
>
>
> What? They wanna save the money for boxed versions? Then I can give one
> advice: the most money they can save is to not sell the product at all.
>
> Don't want to sound harsh. But visibility on warehouse shelves is
> important for the product being taken serious at the marketplace.
>
> I can only imagine you mean "before Xmas".
>
> Peter
>
>>
>> Strictly via the web right now. At least in the U.S.
>>
>

[Nancy O]

Hi Deb, I'm with you on this! Totally hate FP and always have, but many
seem to have latched on to this love/hate relationship with it b/c it is
bundled with Office and it's widely supported.

On the other hand, I went into CompUSA the other day and found very few
software titles on the wall. Mostly OS, Norton, Office, Turbo tax and other
stuff you wouldn't much want on your box unless you are new to computing.
Therefore, I think this trend is not exclusive to NOF. Much cheaper to
sell on Amazon, et al. I can't even remember the last time I bought
software in a box at a store. In fact, I sort of resent all the useless
packaging from a decade ago that I have no room for. I get everything now by
download or CD in the mail. Saves the trees, too.

Happy holidays.
--Nancy





<Brerdane> wrote in message news:1_84_1376@gfwebforum.com...
> Well no wonder MS FrontPage is more popular. Mind you I hate FP and have
had
> many people want me to do their sites in it. So far I have refused and
they
> continue to struggle with their sites. I will say this though at least you
can
> do collaboration in FP98 (the only way to make it behave).
>
> You guys are really missing the marketing/sales boat on this one. The long
term
> return would be worth it IF there are third party components. I did some
> searches and there are so many things available for FP and DW yet next to
> nothing for NOF. No wonder everyone is switching to DW if they can afford
it.
> I've even toyed with downloading a trial version of FP to see where it's
at
> now.
>
> DW is on my wish list for 2006 even though I just upgraded to NOF9 due to
the
> lack of third party components. I was all set to join Club Coolmaps until
I
> found out they may not update components to NOF9.
>
> My take is NOF is going the way WordPerfect did years ago. WP had the
market
> sewn up (government and most businesses) as the standard. However, they
didn't
> keep up with the market and MS Word left them in the dust. I'm not a Word
fan
> but stick with it as it's now pretty much the standard for most people and
> companies even though I loved WP. (I do technical writing also at work
since
> I'm about the only one that knows how to tame Word.)
>
> Off my soapbox now as I'm sure your company has been told this by many
others.
> I sincerely hope NOF does not go the way of WordPerfect it would be
another big
> loss to loyal users and fans of NOF.
>
> Deb
> On Fri, Dec 23 2005 3:26 am, NetObjects Support <support@netobjects.com>
said:
> >Peter,
> >
> >9.0 has a boxed version but is available through the web store only.
> >Regarding the retail outlets: no plans for current version.
> >
> >Technical Support Team
> >support@netobjects.com
> >
> >Peter Eisenburger wrote:
> >> Chuck «BeyondFusion» wrote:
> >>
> >>> Inachu,
> >>>
> >>> From what I've heard, there are no plans for selling through retail
> >>> outlets.
> >>
> >>
> >> What? They wanna save the money for boxed versions? Then I can give one
> >> advice: the most money they can save is to not sell the product at all.
> >>
> >> Don't want to sound harsh. But visibility on warehouse shelves is
> >> important for the product being taken serious at the marketplace.
> >>
> >> I can only imagine you mean "before Xmas".
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Strictly via the web right now. At least in the U.S.
> >>>
> >>
>
>

[Brerdane]

Well no wonder MS FrontPage is more popular. Mind you I hate FP and have had
many people want me to do their sites in it. So far I have refused and they
continue to struggle with their sites. I will say this though at least you can
do collaboration in FP98 (the only way to make it behave).

You guys are really missing the marketing/sales boat on this one. The long term
return would be worth it IF there are third party components. I did some
searches and there are so many things available for FP and DW yet next to
nothing for NOF. No wonder everyone is switching to DW if they can afford it.
I've even toyed with downloading a trial version of FP to see where it's at
now.

DW is on my wish list for 2006 even though I just upgraded to NOF9 due to the
lack of third party components. I was all set to join Club Coolmaps until I
found out they may not update components to NOF9.

My take is NOF is going the way WordPerfect did years ago. WP had the market
sewn up (government and most businesses) as the standard. However, they didn't
keep up with the market and MS Word left them in the dust. I'm not a Word fan
but stick with it as it's now pretty much the standard for most people and
companies even though I loved WP. (I do technical writing also at work since
I'm about the only one that knows how to tame Word.)

Off my soapbox now as I'm sure your company has been told this by many others.
I sincerely hope NOF does not go the way of WordPerfect it would be another big
loss to loyal users and fans of NOF.

Deb
On Fri, Dec 23 2005 3:26 am, NetObjects Support <support@netobjects.com> said:
>Peter,
>
>9.0 has a boxed version but is available through the web store only.
>Regarding the retail outlets: no plans for current version.
>
>Technical Support Team
>support@netobjects.com
>
>Peter Eisenburger wrote:
>> Chuck «BeyondFusion» wrote:
>>
>>> Inachu,
>>>
>>> From what I've heard, there are no plans for selling through retail
>>> outlets.
>>
>>
>> What? They wanna save the money for boxed versions? Then I can give one
>> advice: the most money they can save is to not sell the product at all.
>>
>> Don't want to sound harsh. But visibility on warehouse shelves is
>> important for the product being taken serious at the marketplace.
>>
>> I can only imagine you mean "before Xmas".
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>>
>>> Strictly via the web right now. At least in the U.S.
>>>
>>

[Allison Moore]

> On the other hand, I went into CompUSA the other day and found very few
> software titles on the wall. Mostly OS, Norton, Office, Turbo tax and other
> stuff you wouldn't much want on your box unless you are new to computing.

Sounds about right. :-) The software shelves at Staples and
Office Depot are similarly bare.

Plus, the software "advice" I've gotten from CompUSA staff
has been universally poor and ill-informed. Moreover, if it
isn't sitting right in front of them, they can't remember
ever having seen it. If it is right in front of them, they
only notice it if it's the most popular name.

I've jumped through hoops trying to buy NOF via CompUSA when
CompUSA insisted that they were selling it and that it was
in stock. Gave up and went back to purchasing from a source
I can count on.

Allison