Update2, centering problem

LWD · 04-07-2010

Hey, Kimmo,

I'm glad to see you have all of your pictures back. You're right - the
rollovers are working in IE (not in FF or Opera).

It's been so long since I've used actions that when Anton wrote they would
not work with a centered site under any circumstances, I thought, hmmm, I
wonder if that's true...since I've never tested them with a centered site
and they're 'rollovers' - not 'actions' in the Fusion sense.

But they are 'absolutely' positioned, which means, I believe, that they take
their position from the 'wrapper' around them - your centered div. This is
as opposed to 'fixed' positioning which takes its position from the
'viewport' - i.e., the screen.

It would be interesting to see if they also work if you have a <center> tag
instead of a <div ="center"> tag. I would guess that they would not and
that it's the latter which makes the difference.

You realize that not all of your pages are centered, don't you? I notice
that 'subpage 2' is left-aligned - also that as opposed to the initial
'home' page - 'index' at fintesti2, the 'home' button on subpage2 takes me
to a page called '../html/home.html'.

I'd love to see the finished site.

Lucian

"Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
news:dur21s$65b3@news01.netobjects.com...
> http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti2/
>
> Actions and center in browser, and it works (at least to me with IE). I'm
> using nof's update2 and ticked that center in browser box.
>
> BW
>
> Kimmo
>
> "Anton Strauss" <anton@will-not-reply.com> kirjoitti
> viestissä:duqd1g$61l3@news01.netobjects.com...
>> when using actions, you can't centre in browser, as simple as that
>>
>> dump the actions, or don't centre
>>
>> --
>> Anton Strauss
>> www.videoproductions.com.au
>>
>>
>>
>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
>> news:dupog7$5sh4@news01.netobjects.com...
>>> Hi, Kimmo,
>>>
>>> Well, on the page the pictures disappear, your rollover code references
>>> these fixed/absolute layout regions and I'd say that's where your
>>> problem
>>> lies. Are they necessary?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> <SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript1.2" SRC="./assets/rollover.js"></SCRIPT>
>>> <script>
>>> 
>>> </script>
>>> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="./style.css">
>>> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="./site.css">
>>> <nolayer>
>>> <style id="NOF_STYLE_SHEET">
>>> <!--
>>> DIV#LayoutLYR { position:relative; top:0; left:0; z-index: 1;
>>> visibility:inherit; }
>>>
>>> DIV#LayoutRegion2LYR { position:relative; visibility:inherit; top:0;
>> left:0;
>>> width:800; height:391; z-index:1; }
>>> DIV#Picture37LYR { position:absolute; visibility:hidden; top:0; left:0;
>>> width:350; height:390; z-index:1 }
>>> DIV#Picture33LYR { position:absolute; visibility:inherit; top:0; left:0;
>>> width:350; height:390; z-index:2 }
>>> DIV#Picture34LYR { position:absolute; visibility:inherit; top:0;
>>> left:350;
>>> width:450; height:390; z-index:3 }
>>> DIV#Picture36LYR { position:absolute; visibility:hidden; top:0;
>>> left:350;
>>> width:450; height:390; z-index:4 }
>>> DIV#Picture38LYR { position:absolute; visibility:hidden; top:0; left:0;
>>> width:350; height:390; z-index:5 }
>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
>>> news:dupfo9$5on1@news01.netobjects.com...
>>> > Pls look http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti1/
>>> >
>>> > I just downloaded new update2. Now when you go this site (which should
>> be
>>> > ready today...) and move your mouse over the navigation buttons, all
>>> > pictures under that just disappear.
>>> >
>>> > This happened only just now, with update 2. If I uncheck 'Center in
>>> > browser', everything is ok. But If I use old system (div align
>> center..),
>>> > page do not center at all. So my only bet would be to use this 'Center
>> in
>>> > browser', but what happens to the pictures then?
>>> >
>>> > Pls inform, if you have any idea or solution?
>>> >
>>> > BW
>>> >
>>> > Kimmo
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Kimmo Laurila · 04-07-2010

http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti2/

Actions and center in browser, and it works (at least to me with IE). I'm
using nof's update2 and ticked that center in browser box.

BW

Kimmo

"Anton Strauss" <anton@will-not-reply.com> kirjoitti
viestissä:duqd1g$61l3@news01.netobjects.com...
> when using actions, you can't centre in browser, as simple as that
>
> dump the actions, or don't centre
>
> --
> Anton Strauss
> www.videoproductions.com.au
>
>
>
> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
> news:dupog7$5sh4@news01.netobjects.com...
>> Hi, Kimmo,
>>
>> Well, on the page the pictures disappear, your rollover code references
>> these fixed/absolute layout regions and I'd say that's where your problem
>> lies. Are they necessary?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> <SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript1.2" SRC="./assets/rollover.js"></SCRIPT>
>> <script>
>> 
>> </script>
>> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="./style.css">
>> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="./site.css">
>> <nolayer>
>> <style id="NOF_STYLE_SHEET">
>> <!--
>> DIV#LayoutLYR { position:relative; top:0; left:0; z-index: 1;
>> visibility:inherit; }
>>
>> DIV#LayoutRegion2LYR { position:relative; visibility:inherit; top:0;
> left:0;
>> width:800; height:391; z-index:1; }
>> DIV#Picture37LYR { position:absolute; visibility:hidden; top:0; left:0;
>> width:350; height:390; z-index:1 }
>> DIV#Picture33LYR { position:absolute; visibility:inherit; top:0; left:0;
>> width:350; height:390; z-index:2 }
>> DIV#Picture34LYR { position:absolute; visibility:inherit; top:0;
>> left:350;
>> width:450; height:390; z-index:3 }
>> DIV#Picture36LYR { position:absolute; visibility:hidden; top:0; left:350;
>> width:450; height:390; z-index:4 }
>> DIV#Picture38LYR { position:absolute; visibility:hidden; top:0; left:0;
>> width:350; height:390; z-index:5 }
>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
>> news:dupfo9$5on1@news01.netobjects.com...
>> > Pls look http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti1/
>> >
>> > I just downloaded new update2. Now when you go this site (which should
> be
>> > ready today...) and move your mouse over the navigation buttons, all
>> > pictures under that just disappear.
>> >
>> > This happened only just now, with update 2. If I uncheck 'Center in
>> > browser', everything is ok. But If I use old system (div align
> center..),
>> > page do not center at all. So my only bet would be to use this 'Center
> in
>> > browser', but what happens to the pictures then?
>> >
>> > Pls inform, if you have any idea or solution?
>> >
>> > BW
>> >
>> > Kimmo
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Anton Strauss · 04-07-2010

when using actions, you can't centre in browser, as simple as that

dump the actions, or don't centre

--
Anton Strauss
www.videoproductions.com.au

"LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
news:dupog7$5sh4@news01.netobjects.com...
> Hi, Kimmo,
>
> Well, on the page the pictures disappear, your rollover code references
> these fixed/absolute layout regions and I'd say that's where your problem
> lies. Are they necessary?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> <SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript1.2" SRC="./assets/rollover.js"></SCRIPT>
> <script>
> 
> </script>
> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="./style.css">
> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="./site.css">
> <nolayer>
> <style id="NOF_STYLE_SHEET">
> <!--
> DIV#LayoutLYR { position:relative; top:0; left:0; z-index: 1;
> visibility:inherit; }
>
> DIV#LayoutRegion2LYR { position:relative; visibility:inherit; top:0;
left:0;
> width:800; height:391; z-index:1; }
> DIV#Picture37LYR { position:absolute; visibility:hidden; top:0; left:0;
> width:350; height:390; z-index:1 }
> DIV#Picture33LYR { position:absolute; visibility:inherit; top:0; left:0;
> width:350; height:390; z-index:2 }
> DIV#Picture34LYR { position:absolute; visibility:inherit; top:0; left:350;
> width:450; height:390; z-index:3 }
> DIV#Picture36LYR { position:absolute; visibility:hidden; top:0; left:350;
> width:450; height:390; z-index:4 }
> DIV#Picture38LYR { position:absolute; visibility:hidden; top:0; left:0;
> width:350; height:390; z-index:5 }
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
>
>
>
> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
> news:dupfo9$5on1@news01.netobjects.com...
> > Pls look http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti1/
> >
> > I just downloaded new update2. Now when you go this site (which should
be
> > ready today...) and move your mouse over the navigation buttons, all
> > pictures under that just disappear.
> >
> > This happened only just now, with update 2. If I uncheck 'Center in
> > browser', everything is ok. But If I use old system (div align
center..),
> > page do not center at all. So my only bet would be to use this 'Center
in
> > browser', but what happens to the pictures then?
> >
> > Pls inform, if you have any idea or solution?
> >
> > BW
> >
> > Kimmo
> >
>
>

LWD · 04-07-2010

Glad to help, Kimmo - it's 1 p.m. here in Mississippi, not exactly night,
but getting darker by the minute due to an approaching thunderstorm.

When I think of it being night in Finland, I'm reminded of 'Night on Earth'
by Jim Jarmusch - the middle of the night in five cities of the world,
including Helsinki.

Lucian

"Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
news:duptuc$5t613@news01.netobjects.com...
> Oh, that one :-) Now I understand, I didn't know that there is a way to
> get rid of that, I was thinking that it always 'belongs to the box' :-)
> Once again this was a day when I learn something new :-)
>
> Thank you very much for your help! It's 9 pm here, so I have plenty of
> time during the night to get this baby ready for the customer. They want
> it to be in their server when they'll start working tomorrow, so let it be
> so :-)
>
> Good night, or what ever there is where you are :-)
>
> Kimmo
>
>
> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
> viestissä:dupsod$5t611@news01.netobjects.com...
>> Hi, Kimmo,
>>
>> Your English is fine - certainly much better than my Finnish.
>>
>> The image toolbar is the tiny bar which sometimes pops up over images
>> when you're using Internet Explorer. I've never figured out what causes
>> it to appear, but it's annoying.
>>
>> Here's a picture of it:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...totoolbar.mspx
>>
>> Here's another:
>> http://photomatt.net/2004/07/11/image-toolbar/
>>
>> Lucian
>>
>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
>> news:dups5s$5t610@news01.netobjects.com...
>>> Sorry my bad english, but what do you mean with 'dumb image toolbar'?
>>> I'm using ie and I do not know what you mean?
>>>
>>> Nice to hear that now page works better. It seems that I made some
>>> mistakes during placing content to the pages, as test1 supposed to be
>>> just like this test2 template.
>>>
>>> BW
>>>
>>> Kimmo
>>>
>>> PS: and thank you very much, really!
>>>
>>>
>>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
>>> viestissä:dupqki$5t69@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>> By the way, I get that dumb 'image toolbar' when I look at your page
>>>> with IE.
>>>>
>>>> You should be able to disable it with this code in the <head> section
>>>> of your page:
>>>>
>>>> <META HTTP-EQUIV="imagetoolbar" CONTENT="no">
>>>>
>>>> I don't think it makes any difference where - just between <head> and
>>>> </head>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
>>>> news:dupqe8$5t67@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>> Hi, Kimmo,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, that one page is working in IE, FF, and Opera - and Vilkku and
>>>>> Välkky's names appear when I mouse over the page in IE - but not in FF
>>>>> or Opera - but that's certainly better than the images completely
>>>>> disappearing in IE.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a nice effect. Have you tried to see if you can get it without
>>>>> fixed layout?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
>>>>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:dupplt$5sh6@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>> Pls look http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti2/ (even you are
>>>>>> already done too much for me :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is now a 'clean' template, look only opening page and 'home',
>>>>>> they both seems to me working fine and centered just fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
>>>>>> viestissä:dupp03$5sh5@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>>>I just looked at the individual images - girlmo.jpg, girlmo2.jpg,
>>>>>>>etc. and now see what you're trying to do with the rollover effect -
>>>>>>>but, as you see, it's not working. So, again, I'd guess that the
>>>>>>>problem is the fixed-positioning combined with the rollover code.
>>>>>>>While the pictures don't disappear when I view the site in Firefox or
>>>>>>>Opera, the girl's name never appears, for instance - i.e., the
>>>>>>>rollover is not working correctly. I only discovered the image with
>>>>>>>her name using the Firefox Developers Toolbar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lucian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> message news:dupo54$5t63@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>>>> In layout area (first page again), there is two rollover actions:
>>>>>>>> when you mouse over characters, their names will be seen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Navigation buttons are normal nof buttons.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I do not get is, why layout area is gone if I just move over
>>>>>>>> header or navigation buttons, as there shouldn't be no connection
>>>>>>>> with header and layout area (no mutual actions or things like
>>>>>>>> that).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also is confusing to hear that in fox and opera everything is ok.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hmm...mystery to me. I'll try to totally remake the first page, if
>>>>>>>> I have just messed that present one somehow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
>>>>>>>> viestissä:dupn3f$5t61@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>>>>> Hi, Kimmo,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When you wrote 'actions' - I thought you meant NetObjects Fusion
>>>>>>>>> 'actions' - which are Java-based.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I see now that you mean regular Javascript rollovers. Is that
>>>>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I now see the behavior your mean in Internet Explorer, but not in
>>>>>>>>> Firefox or Opera. I'd say it has to do with the rollover
>>>>>>>>> settings. I don't know why the problem appeared with Update 2
>>>>>>>>> because, to my knowledge, nothing in the rollover code was
>>>>>>>>> changed. If you have a site which was made with Fusion 9 prior to
>>>>>>>>> Update 2, you might want to compare the Javascript. It should be
>>>>>>>>> at 'http://morsiusgalleria/assets/rollover.js'. You have other
>>>>>>>>> Javascripts at that location as well - effects.js, script.js, and
>>>>>>>>> validation.js. See if they play a part - but I'd also guess your
>>>>>>>>> fixed layout is part of the problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lucian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> message news:dupk94$5on7@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>>>>>> It seems that update2 has nothing to do with this problem, most
>>>>>>>>>> probably I have made a mistake with actions and layout.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, have to remake that first page and look again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> kirjoitti
>>>>>>>>>> viestissä:dupfo9$5on1@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> Pls look http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti1/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I just downloaded new update2. Now when you go this site (which
>>>>>>>>>>> should be ready today...) and move your mouse over the
>>>>>>>>>>> navigation buttons, all pictures under that just disappear.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This happened only just now, with update 2. If I uncheck 'Center
>>>>>>>>>>> in browser', everything is ok. But If I use old system (div
>>>>>>>>>>> align center..), page do not center at all. So my only bet would
>>>>>>>>>>> be to use this 'Center in browser', but what happens to the
>>>>>>>>>>> pictures then?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pls inform, if you have any idea or solution?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BW
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Kimmo Laurila · 04-07-2010

Oh, that one :-) Now I understand, I didn't know that there is a way to get
rid of that, I was thinking that it always 'belongs to the box' :-) Once
again this was a day when I learn something new :-)

Thank you very much for your help! It's 9 pm here, so I have plenty of time
during the night to get this baby ready for the customer. They want it to be
in their server when they'll start working tomorrow, so let it be so :-)

Good night, or what ever there is where you are :-)

Kimmo

"LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
viestissä:dupsod$5t611@news01.netobjects.com...
> Hi, Kimmo,
>
> Your English is fine - certainly much better than my Finnish.
>
> The image toolbar is the tiny bar which sometimes pops up over images when
> you're using Internet Explorer. I've never figured out what causes it to
> appear, but it's annoying.
>
> Here's a picture of it:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...totoolbar.mspx
>
> Here's another:
> http://photomatt.net/2004/07/11/image-toolbar/
>
> Lucian
>
> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
> news:dups5s$5t610@news01.netobjects.com...
>> Sorry my bad english, but what do you mean with 'dumb image toolbar'? I'm
>> using ie and I do not know what you mean?
>>
>> Nice to hear that now page works better. It seems that I made some
>> mistakes during placing content to the pages, as test1 supposed to be
>> just like this test2 template.
>>
>> BW
>>
>> Kimmo
>>
>> PS: and thank you very much, really!
>>
>>
>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
>> viestissä:dupqki$5t69@news01.netobjects.com...
>>> By the way, I get that dumb 'image toolbar' when I look at your page
>>> with IE.
>>>
>>> You should be able to disable it with this code in the <head> section of
>>> your page:
>>>
>>> <META HTTP-EQUIV="imagetoolbar" CONTENT="no">
>>>
>>> I don't think it makes any difference where - just between <head> and
>>> </head>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
>>> news:dupqe8$5t67@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>> Hi, Kimmo,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that one page is working in IE, FF, and Opera - and Vilkku and
>>>> Välkky's names appear when I mouse over the page in IE - but not in FF
>>>> or Opera - but that's certainly better than the images completely
>>>> disappearing in IE.
>>>>
>>>> That's a nice effect. Have you tried to see if you can get it without
>>>> fixed layout?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
>>>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:dupplt$5sh6@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>> Pls look http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti2/ (even you are
>>>>> already done too much for me :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> There is now a 'clean' template, look only opening page and 'home',
>>>>> they both seems to me working fine and centered just fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>
>>>>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
>>>>> viestissä:dupp03$5sh5@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>>I just looked at the individual images - girlmo.jpg, girlmo2.jpg, etc.
>>>>>>and now see what you're trying to do with the rollover effect - but,
>>>>>>as you see, it's not working. So, again, I'd guess that the problem
>>>>>>is the fixed-positioning combined with the rollover code. While the
>>>>>>pictures don't disappear when I view the site in Firefox or Opera, the
>>>>>>girl's name never appears, for instance - i.e., the rollover is not
>>>>>>working correctly. I only discovered the image with her name using the
>>>>>>Firefox Developers Toolbar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lucian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dupo54$5t63@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>>> In layout area (first page again), there is two rollover actions:
>>>>>>> when you mouse over characters, their names will be seen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Navigation buttons are normal nof buttons.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I do not get is, why layout area is gone if I just move over
>>>>>>> header or navigation buttons, as there shouldn't be no connection
>>>>>>> with header and layout area (no mutual actions or things like that).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also is confusing to hear that in fox and opera everything is ok.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmm...mystery to me. I'll try to totally remake the first page, if I
>>>>>>> have just messed that present one somehow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
>>>>>>> viestissä:dupn3f$5t61@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>>>> Hi, Kimmo,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When you wrote 'actions' - I thought you meant NetObjects Fusion
>>>>>>>> 'actions' - which are Java-based.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see now that you mean regular Javascript rollovers. Is that
>>>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I now see the behavior your mean in Internet Explorer, but not in
>>>>>>>> Firefox or Opera. I'd say it has to do with the rollover settings.
>>>>>>>> I don't know why the problem appeared with Update 2 because, to my
>>>>>>>> knowledge, nothing in the rollover code was changed. If you have a
>>>>>>>> site which was made with Fusion 9 prior to Update 2, you might want
>>>>>>>> to compare the Javascript. It should be at
>>>>>>>> 'http://morsiusgalleria/assets/rollover.js'. You have other
>>>>>>>> Javascripts at that location as well - effects.js, script.js, and
>>>>>>>> validation.js. See if they play a part - but I'd also guess your
>>>>>>>> fixed layout is part of the problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lucian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> message news:dupk94$5on7@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>>>>> It seems that update2 has nothing to do with this problem, most
>>>>>>>>> probably I have made a mistake with actions and layout.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hmm, have to remake that first page and look again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> kirjoitti
>>>>>>>>> viestissä:dupfo9$5on1@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>>>>>> Pls look http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti1/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just downloaded new update2. Now when you go this site (which
>>>>>>>>>> should be ready today...) and move your mouse over the navigation
>>>>>>>>>> buttons, all pictures under that just disappear.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This happened only just now, with update 2. If I uncheck 'Center
>>>>>>>>>> in browser', everything is ok. But If I use old system (div align
>>>>>>>>>> center..), page do not center at all. So my only bet would be to
>>>>>>>>>> use this 'Center in browser', but what happens to the pictures
>>>>>>>>>> then?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pls inform, if you have any idea or solution?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BW
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

LWD · 04-07-2010

Hi, Kimmo,

Your English is fine - certainly much better than my Finnish.

The image toolbar is the tiny bar which sometimes pops up over images when
you're using Internet Explorer. I've never figured out what causes it to
appear, but it's annoying.

Here's a picture of it:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...totoolbar.mspx

Here's another:
http://photomatt.net/2004/07/11/image-toolbar/

Lucian

"Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
news:dups5s$5t610@news01.netobjects.com...
> Sorry my bad english, but what do you mean with 'dumb image toolbar'? I'm
> using ie and I do not know what you mean?
>
> Nice to hear that now page works better. It seems that I made some
> mistakes during placing content to the pages, as test1 supposed to be just
> like this test2 template.
>
> BW
>
> Kimmo
>
> PS: and thank you very much, really!
>
>
> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
> viestissä:dupqki$5t69@news01.netobjects.com...
>> By the way, I get that dumb 'image toolbar' when I look at your page with
>> IE.
>>
>> You should be able to disable it with this code in the <head> section of
>> your page:
>>
>> <META HTTP-EQUIV="imagetoolbar" CONTENT="no">
>>
>> I don't think it makes any difference where - just between <head> and
>> </head>
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
>> news:dupqe8$5t67@news01.netobjects.com...
>>> Hi, Kimmo,
>>>
>>> Yes, that one page is working in IE, FF, and Opera - and Vilkku and
>>> Välkky's names appear when I mouse over the page in IE - but not in FF
>>> or Opera - but that's certainly better than the images completely
>>> disappearing in IE.
>>>
>>> That's a nice effect. Have you tried to see if you can get it without
>>> fixed layout?
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
>>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
>>> news:dupplt$5sh6@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>> Pls look http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti2/ (even you are
>>>> already done too much for me :-)
>>>>
>>>> There is now a 'clean' template, look only opening page and 'home',
>>>> they both seems to me working fine and centered just fine.
>>>>
>>>> Kimmo
>>>>
>>>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
>>>> viestissä:dupp03$5sh5@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>I just looked at the individual images - girlmo.jpg, girlmo2.jpg, etc.
>>>>>and now see what you're trying to do with the rollover effect - but, as
>>>>>you see, it's not working. So, again, I'd guess that the problem is
>>>>>the fixed-positioning combined with the rollover code. While the
>>>>>pictures don't disappear when I view the site in Firefox or Opera, the
>>>>>girl's name never appears, for instance - i.e., the rollover is not
>>>>>working correctly. I only discovered the image with her name using the
>>>>>Firefox Developers Toolbar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lucian
>>>>>
>>>>> Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:dupo54$5t63@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>> In layout area (first page again), there is two rollover actions:
>>>>>> when you mouse over characters, their names will be seen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Navigation buttons are normal nof buttons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I do not get is, why layout area is gone if I just move over
>>>>>> header or navigation buttons, as there shouldn't be no connection
>>>>>> with header and layout area (no mutual actions or things like that).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also is confusing to hear that in fox and opera everything is ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm...mystery to me. I'll try to totally remake the first page, if I
>>>>>> have just messed that present one somehow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
>>>>>> viestissä:dupn3f$5t61@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>>> Hi, Kimmo,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When you wrote 'actions' - I thought you meant NetObjects Fusion
>>>>>>> 'actions' - which are Java-based.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see now that you mean regular Javascript rollovers. Is that
>>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I now see the behavior your mean in Internet Explorer, but not in
>>>>>>> Firefox or Opera. I'd say it has to do with the rollover settings.
>>>>>>> I don't know why the problem appeared with Update 2 because, to my
>>>>>>> knowledge, nothing in the rollover code was changed. If you have a
>>>>>>> site which was made with Fusion 9 prior to Update 2, you might want
>>>>>>> to compare the Javascript. It should be at
>>>>>>> 'http://morsiusgalleria/assets/rollover.js'. You have other
>>>>>>> Javascripts at that location as well - effects.js, script.js, and
>>>>>>> validation.js. See if they play a part - but I'd also guess your
>>>>>>> fixed layout is part of the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lucian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> message news:dupk94$5on7@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>>>> It seems that update2 has nothing to do with this problem, most
>>>>>>>> probably I have made a mistake with actions and layout.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hmm, have to remake that first page and look again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> kirjoitti
>>>>>>>> viestissä:dupfo9$5on1@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>>>>> Pls look http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti1/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just downloaded new update2. Now when you go this site (which
>>>>>>>>> should be ready today...) and move your mouse over the navigation
>>>>>>>>> buttons, all pictures under that just disappear.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This happened only just now, with update 2. If I uncheck 'Center
>>>>>>>>> in browser', everything is ok. But If I use old system (div align
>>>>>>>>> center..), page do not center at all. So my only bet would be to
>>>>>>>>> use this 'Center in browser', but what happens to the pictures
>>>>>>>>> then?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pls inform, if you have any idea or solution?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BW
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Kimmo Laurila · 04-07-2010

Sorry my bad english, but what do you mean with 'dumb image toolbar'? I'm
using ie and I do not know what you mean?

Nice to hear that now page works better. It seems that I made some mistakes
during placing content to the pages, as test1 supposed to be just like this
test2 template.

BW

Kimmo

PS: and thank you very much, really!

"LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
viestissä:dupqki$5t69@news01.netobjects.com...
> By the way, I get that dumb 'image toolbar' when I look at your page with
> IE.
>
> You should be able to disable it with this code in the <head> section of
> your page:
>
> <META HTTP-EQUIV="imagetoolbar" CONTENT="no">
>
> I don't think it makes any difference where - just between <head> and
> </head>
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
> news:dupqe8$5t67@news01.netobjects.com...
>> Hi, Kimmo,
>>
>> Yes, that one page is working in IE, FF, and Opera - and Vilkku and
>> Välkky's names appear when I mouse over the page in IE - but not in FF or
>> Opera - but that's certainly better than the images completely
>> disappearing in IE.
>>
>> That's a nice effect. Have you tried to see if you can get it without
>> fixed layout?
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
>> news:dupplt$5sh6@news01.netobjects.com...
>>> Pls look http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti2/ (even you are already
>>> done too much for me :-)
>>>
>>> There is now a 'clean' template, look only opening page and 'home', they
>>> both seems to me working fine and centered just fine.
>>>
>>> Kimmo
>>>
>>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
>>> viestissä:dupp03$5sh5@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>I just looked at the individual images - girlmo.jpg, girlmo2.jpg, etc.
>>>>and now see what you're trying to do with the rollover effect - but, as
>>>>you see, it's not working. So, again, I'd guess that the problem is the
>>>>fixed-positioning combined with the rollover code. While the pictures
>>>>don't disappear when I view the site in Firefox or Opera, the girl's
>>>>name never appears, for instance - i.e., the rollover is not working
>>>>correctly. I only discovered the image with her name using the Firefox
>>>>Developers Toolbar.
>>>>
>>>> Lucian
>>>>
>>>> Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:dupo54$5t63@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>> In layout area (first page again), there is two rollover actions: when
>>>>> you mouse over characters, their names will be seen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Navigation buttons are normal nof buttons.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I do not get is, why layout area is gone if I just move over
>>>>> header or navigation buttons, as there shouldn't be no connection with
>>>>> header and layout area (no mutual actions or things like that).
>>>>>
>>>>> Also is confusing to hear that in fox and opera everything is ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm...mystery to me. I'll try to totally remake the first page, if I
>>>>> have just messed that present one somehow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>
>>>>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
>>>>> viestissä:dupn3f$5t61@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>> Hi, Kimmo,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you wrote 'actions' - I thought you meant NetObjects Fusion
>>>>>> 'actions' - which are Java-based.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see now that you mean regular Javascript rollovers. Is that
>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I now see the behavior your mean in Internet Explorer, but not in
>>>>>> Firefox or Opera. I'd say it has to do with the rollover settings.
>>>>>> I don't know why the problem appeared with Update 2 because, to my
>>>>>> knowledge, nothing in the rollover code was changed. If you have a
>>>>>> site which was made with Fusion 9 prior to Update 2, you might want
>>>>>> to compare the Javascript. It should be at
>>>>>> 'http://morsiusgalleria/assets/rollover.js'. You have other
>>>>>> Javascripts at that location as well - effects.js, script.js, and
>>>>>> validation.js. See if they play a part - but I'd also guess your
>>>>>> fixed layout is part of the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lucian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in
>>>>>> message news:dupk94$5on7@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>>> It seems that update2 has nothing to do with this problem, most
>>>>>>> probably I have made a mistake with actions and layout.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmm, have to remake that first page and look again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> kirjoitti
>>>>>>> viestissä:dupfo9$5on1@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>>>> Pls look http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti1/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just downloaded new update2. Now when you go this site (which
>>>>>>>> should be ready today...) and move your mouse over the navigation
>>>>>>>> buttons, all pictures under that just disappear.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This happened only just now, with update 2. If I uncheck 'Center in
>>>>>>>> browser', everything is ok. But If I use old system (div align
>>>>>>>> center..), page do not center at all. So my only bet would be to
>>>>>>>> use this 'Center in browser', but what happens to the pictures
>>>>>>>> then?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pls inform, if you have any idea or solution?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BW
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

LWD · 04-07-2010

By the way, I get that dumb 'image toolbar' when I look at your page with
IE.

You should be able to disable it with this code in the <head> section of
your page:

<META HTTP-EQUIV="imagetoolbar" CONTENT="no">

I don't think it makes any difference where - just between <head> and
</head>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
news:dupqe8$5t67@news01.netobjects.com...
> Hi, Kimmo,
>
> Yes, that one page is working in IE, FF, and Opera - and Vilkku and
> Välkky's names appear when I mouse over the page in IE - but not in FF or
> Opera - but that's certainly better than the images completely
> disappearing in IE.
>
> That's a nice effect. Have you tried to see if you can get it without
> fixed layout?
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
> news:dupplt$5sh6@news01.netobjects.com...
>> Pls look http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti2/ (even you are already
>> done too much for me :-)
>>
>> There is now a 'clean' template, look only opening page and 'home', they
>> both seems to me working fine and centered just fine.
>>
>> Kimmo
>>
>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
>> viestissä:dupp03$5sh5@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>I just looked at the individual images - girlmo.jpg, girlmo2.jpg, etc.
>>>and now see what you're trying to do with the rollover effect - but, as
>>>you see, it's not working. So, again, I'd guess that the problem is the
>>>fixed-positioning combined with the rollover code. While the pictures
>>>don't disappear when I view the site in Firefox or Opera, the girl's name
>>>never appears, for instance - i.e., the rollover is not working
>>>correctly. I only discovered the image with her name using the Firefox
>>>Developers Toolbar.
>>>
>>> Lucian
>>>
>>> Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
>>> news:dupo54$5t63@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>> In layout area (first page again), there is two rollover actions: when
>>>> you mouse over characters, their names will be seen.
>>>>
>>>> Navigation buttons are normal nof buttons.
>>>>
>>>> What I do not get is, why layout area is gone if I just move over
>>>> header or navigation buttons, as there shouldn't be no connection with
>>>> header and layout area (no mutual actions or things like that).
>>>>
>>>> Also is confusing to hear that in fox and opera everything is ok.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm...mystery to me. I'll try to totally remake the first page, if I
>>>> have just messed that present one somehow.
>>>>
>>>> Kimmo
>>>>
>>>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
>>>> viestissä:dupn3f$5t61@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>> Hi, Kimmo,
>>>>>
>>>>> When you wrote 'actions' - I thought you meant NetObjects Fusion
>>>>> 'actions' - which are Java-based.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see now that you mean regular Javascript rollovers. Is that
>>>>> correct?
>>>>>
>>>>> I now see the behavior your mean in Internet Explorer, but not in
>>>>> Firefox or Opera. I'd say it has to do with the rollover settings. I
>>>>> don't know why the problem appeared with Update 2 because, to my
>>>>> knowledge, nothing in the rollover code was changed. If you have a
>>>>> site which was made with Fusion 9 prior to Update 2, you might want to
>>>>> compare the Javascript. It should be at
>>>>> 'http://morsiusgalleria/assets/rollover.js'. You have other
>>>>> Javascripts at that location as well - effects.js, script.js, and
>>>>> validation.js. See if they play a part - but I'd also guess your fixed
>>>>> layout is part of the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lucian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:dupk94$5on7@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>> It seems that update2 has nothing to do with this problem, most
>>>>>> probably I have made a mistake with actions and layout.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm, have to remake that first page and look again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> kirjoitti
>>>>>> viestissä:dupfo9$5on1@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>>> Pls look http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti1/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just downloaded new update2. Now when you go this site (which
>>>>>>> should be ready today...) and move your mouse over the navigation
>>>>>>> buttons, all pictures under that just disappear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This happened only just now, with update 2. If I uncheck 'Center in
>>>>>>> browser', everything is ok. But If I use old system (div align
>>>>>>> center..), page do not center at all. So my only bet would be to use
>>>>>>> this 'Center in browser', but what happens to the pictures then?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pls inform, if you have any idea or solution?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

LWD · 04-07-2010

Hi, Kimmo,

Yes, that one page is working in IE, FF, and Opera - and Vilkku and Välkky's
names appear when I mouse over the page in IE - but not in FF or Opera - but
that's certainly better than the images completely disappearing in IE.

That's a nice effect. Have you tried to see if you can get it without fixed
layout?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
"Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
news:dupplt$5sh6@news01.netobjects.com...
> Pls look http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti2/ (even you are already
> done too much for me :-)
>
> There is now a 'clean' template, look only opening page and 'home', they
> both seems to me working fine and centered just fine.
>
> Kimmo
>
> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
> viestissä:dupp03$5sh5@news01.netobjects.com...
>>I just looked at the individual images - girlmo.jpg, girlmo2.jpg, etc. and
>>now see what you're trying to do with the rollover effect - but, as you
>>see, it's not working. So, again, I'd guess that the problem is the
>>fixed-positioning combined with the rollover code. While the pictures
>>don't disappear when I view the site in Firefox or Opera, the girl's name
>>never appears, for instance - i.e., the rollover is not working correctly.
>>I only discovered the image with her name using the Firefox Developers
>>Toolbar.
>>
>> Lucian
>>
>> Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
>> news:dupo54$5t63@news01.netobjects.com...
>>> In layout area (first page again), there is two rollover actions: when
>>> you mouse over characters, their names will be seen.
>>>
>>> Navigation buttons are normal nof buttons.
>>>
>>> What I do not get is, why layout area is gone if I just move over header
>>> or navigation buttons, as there shouldn't be no connection with header
>>> and layout area (no mutual actions or things like that).
>>>
>>> Also is confusing to hear that in fox and opera everything is ok.
>>>
>>> Hmm...mystery to me. I'll try to totally remake the first page, if I
>>> have just messed that present one somehow.
>>>
>>> Kimmo
>>>
>>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
>>> viestissä:dupn3f$5t61@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>> Hi, Kimmo,
>>>>
>>>> When you wrote 'actions' - I thought you meant NetObjects Fusion
>>>> 'actions' - which are Java-based.
>>>>
>>>> I see now that you mean regular Javascript rollovers. Is that correct?
>>>>
>>>> I now see the behavior your mean in Internet Explorer, but not in
>>>> Firefox or Opera. I'd say it has to do with the rollover settings. I
>>>> don't know why the problem appeared with Update 2 because, to my
>>>> knowledge, nothing in the rollover code was changed. If you have a
>>>> site which was made with Fusion 9 prior to Update 2, you might want to
>>>> compare the Javascript. It should be at
>>>> 'http://morsiusgalleria/assets/rollover.js'. You have other
>>>> Javascripts at that location as well - effects.js, script.js, and
>>>> validation.js. See if they play a part - but I'd also guess your fixed
>>>> layout is part of the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Lucian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:dupk94$5on7@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>> It seems that update2 has nothing to do with this problem, most
>>>>> probably I have made a mistake with actions and layout.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm, have to remake that first page and look again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> kirjoitti
>>>>> viestissä:dupfo9$5on1@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>>> Pls look http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti1/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just downloaded new update2. Now when you go this site (which
>>>>>> should be ready today...) and move your mouse over the navigation
>>>>>> buttons, all pictures under that just disappear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This happened only just now, with update 2. If I uncheck 'Center in
>>>>>> browser', everything is ok. But If I use old system (div align
>>>>>> center..), page do not center at all. So my only bet would be to use
>>>>>> this 'Center in browser', but what happens to the pictures then?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pls inform, if you have any idea or solution?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Kimmo Laurila · 04-07-2010

Pls look http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti2/ (even you are already
done too much for me :-)

There is now a 'clean' template, look only opening page and 'home', they
both seems to me working fine and centered just fine.

Kimmo

"LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
viestissä:dupp03$5sh5@news01.netobjects.com...
>I just looked at the individual images - girlmo.jpg, girlmo2.jpg, etc. and
>now see what you're trying to do with the rollover effect - but, as you
>see, it's not working. So, again, I'd guess that the problem is the
>fixed-positioning combined with the rollover code. While the pictures
>don't disappear when I view the site in Firefox or Opera, the girl's name
>never appears, for instance - i.e., the rollover is not working correctly.
>I only discovered the image with her name using the Firefox Developers
>Toolbar.
>
> Lucian
>
> Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
> news:dupo54$5t63@news01.netobjects.com...
>> In layout area (first page again), there is two rollover actions: when
>> you mouse over characters, their names will be seen.
>>
>> Navigation buttons are normal nof buttons.
>>
>> What I do not get is, why layout area is gone if I just move over header
>> or navigation buttons, as there shouldn't be no connection with header
>> and layout area (no mutual actions or things like that).
>>
>> Also is confusing to hear that in fox and opera everything is ok.
>>
>> Hmm...mystery to me. I'll try to totally remake the first page, if I have
>> just messed that present one somehow.
>>
>> Kimmo
>>
>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> kirjoitti
>> viestissä:dupn3f$5t61@news01.netobjects.com...
>>> Hi, Kimmo,
>>>
>>> When you wrote 'actions' - I thought you meant NetObjects Fusion
>>> 'actions' - which are Java-based.
>>>
>>> I see now that you mean regular Javascript rollovers. Is that correct?
>>>
>>> I now see the behavior your mean in Internet Explorer, but not in
>>> Firefox or Opera. I'd say it has to do with the rollover settings. I
>>> don't know why the problem appeared with Update 2 because, to my
>>> knowledge, nothing in the rollover code was changed. If you have a site
>>> which was made with Fusion 9 prior to Update 2, you might want to
>>> compare the Javascript. It should be at
>>> 'http://morsiusgalleria/assets/rollover.js'. You have other Javascripts
>>> at that location as well - effects.js, script.js, and validation.js.
>>> See if they play a part - but I'd also guess your fixed layout is part
>>> of the problem.
>>>
>>> Lucian
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> wrote in message
>>> news:dupk94$5on7@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>> It seems that update2 has nothing to do with this problem, most
>>>> probably I have made a mistake with actions and layout.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, have to remake that first page and look again.
>>>>
>>>> Kimmo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Kimmo Laurila" <morsiusgalleria@morsiusgalleria.com> kirjoitti
>>>> viestissä:dupfo9$5on1@news01.netobjects.com...
>>>>> Pls look http://www.morsiusgalleria.com/fintesti1/
>>>>>
>>>>> I just downloaded new update2. Now when you go this site (which should
>>>>> be ready today...) and move your mouse over the navigation buttons,
>>>>> all pictures under that just disappear.
>>>>>
>>>>> This happened only just now, with update 2. If I uncheck 'Center in
>>>>> browser', everything is ok. But If I use old system (div align
>>>>> center..), page do not center at all. So my only bet would be to use
>>>>> this 'Center in browser', but what happens to the pictures then?
>>>>>
>>>>> Pls inform, if you have any idea or solution?
>>>>>
>>>>> BW
>>>>>
>>>>> Kimmo
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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