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  1. #1
    BW
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    Default Re: Cat5e Wiring

    Maybe a stupid question but are you using a hub or a switch?
    Most switches are auto detect but hubs i am pretty sure need crossover
    cables not straight cables.
    BW
    "Josh" <tirmgt@(NO=SPAM)netreach.net> wrote in message
    news:duoor9$5im1@news01.netobjects.com...
    >i know this is off topic but i was hoping that there might be a few more
    >tech guys ( or girls ) in here that might know the answer. i also know this
    >is going to sound stupid but does CAT5e cable go bad? how would it right?
    >well the reason why i ask is that i have a box of 1000 feet of the cable. i
    >have made cables in the past with no problems. well i just redid my home
    >office and laid 3 lines. all three tested fine on a hand held lan tester
    >and when i hooked it up to the network the computers saw the network fine
    >but would not transfer anything. the cables are only about 15 feet long and
    >i redid the connections 3 times. also tried all different types of end
    >connections but get the same results. the only thing i can think of is that
    >it is a bad cable since i have made 100's of cables in the past and never
    >saw anything like this. the cable has been stored in the box in a dry
    >basement for about 2 years.
    >
    > anyone have any thoughts?
    >
    >




  2. #2
    DT
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    Default Re: Cat5e Wiring

    > is going to sound stupid but does CAT5e cable go bad? how would it right?
    1. CAT5e cable will outlive you and I.
    2. If you are plugging in and getting an IP address from your DHCP
    server/router chances are you don't have a wiring problem. Are you getting
    an IP address?
    3. Ping another PC on the network.
    4. Make sure you are using the proper ends on the wire. If the wire is solid
    or stranded, they have different ends.



  3. #3
    Josh
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    Default OT: Cat5e Wiring

    i know this is off topic but i was hoping that there might be a few more
    tech guys ( or girls ) in here that might know the answer. i also know this
    is going to sound stupid but does CAT5e cable go bad? how would it right?
    well the reason why i ask is that i have a box of 1000 feet of the cable. i
    have made cables in the past with no problems. well i just redid my home
    office and laid 3 lines. all three tested fine on a hand held lan tester and
    when i hooked it up to the network the computers saw the network fine but
    would not transfer anything. the cables are only about 15 feet long and i
    redid the connections 3 times. also tried all different types of end
    connections but get the same results. the only thing i can think of is that
    it is a bad cable since i have made 100's of cables in the past and never
    saw anything like this. the cable has been stored in the box in a dry
    basement for about 2 years.

    anyone have any thoughts?



  4. #4
    Josh
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    Default Re: Cat5e Wiring

    figured it should out live me, but just thought it was strange..

    wire is solid and it is pinging and all just keeps coming with a limited
    connection message and timing out.

    thanks for the reply

    josh

    "DT" <david@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:dup6pk$5ld2@news01.netobjects.com...
    >> is going to sound stupid but does CAT5e cable go bad? how would it right?

    > 1. CAT5e cable will outlive you and I.
    > 2. If you are plugging in and getting an IP address from your DHCP
    > server/router chances are you don't have a wiring problem. Are you
    > getting an IP address?
    > 3. Ping another PC on the network.
    > 4. Make sure you are using the proper ends on the wire. If the wire is
    > solid or stranded, they have different ends.
    >
    >




  5. #5
    Josh
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    tried two different ways. one a direct connection to the cable modem and one
    a connection to a hub which is connected to the fiber optic line. both witht
    he same results.

    thanks for the reply.

    josh

    "BW" <beauwoods@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
    news:dup5r9$5ku5@news01.netobjects.com...
    > Maybe a stupid question but are you using a hub or a switch?
    > Most switches are auto detect but hubs i am pretty sure need crossover
    > cables not straight cables.
    > BW
    > "Josh" <tirmgt@(NO=SPAM)netreach.net> wrote in message
    > news:duoor9$5im1@news01.netobjects.com...
    >>i know this is off topic but i was hoping that there might be a few more
    >>tech guys ( or girls ) in here that might know the answer. i also know
    >>this is going to sound stupid but does CAT5e cable go bad? how would it
    >>right? well the reason why i ask is that i have a box of 1000 feet of the
    >>cable. i have made cables in the past with no problems. well i just redid
    >>my home office and laid 3 lines. all three tested fine on a hand held lan
    >>tester and when i hooked it up to the network the computers saw the
    >>network fine but would not transfer anything. the cables are only about 15
    >>feet long and i redid the connections 3 times. also tried all different
    >>types of end connections but get the same results. the only thing i can
    >>think of is that it is a bad cable since i have made 100's of cables in
    >>the past and never saw anything like this. the cable has been stored in
    >>the box in a dry basement for about 2 years.
    >>
    >> anyone have any thoughts?
    >>
    >>

    >
    >




  6. #6
    Josh
    Guest

    Default Re: Cat5e Wiring

    i am starting to lean towards maybe a defective cable. not just the ones i
    made but the entire 1000 feet. i did check all the cables with a cable
    tester and all connections came back fine. i have made 10 cables now ranging
    from 2 feet to 25 feet and get the same results.


    "Russ" <RussellH@ysNOSPAMTODAYTHANKYOUmail.net> wrote in message
    news:A921.1142006132.381@gfwebforum.com...
    > Josh wrote:
    >> figured it should out live me, but just thought it was strange..
    >>
    >> wire is solid and it is pinging and all just keeps coming with a limited
    >> connection message and timing out.
    >>
    >> thanks for the reply
    >>
    >> josh
    >>
    >> "DT" <david@nospam.com> wrote in message
    >> news:dup6pk$5ld2@news01.netobjects.com...
    >>>> is going to sound stupid but does CAT5e cable go bad? how would it
    >>>> right?
    >>> 1. CAT5e cable will outlive you and I.
    >>> 2. If you are plugging in and getting an IP address from your DHCP
    >>> server/router chances are you don't have a wiring problem. Are you
    >>> getting an IP address?
    >>> 3. Ping another PC on the network.
    >>> 4. Make sure you are using the proper ends on the wire. If the wire is
    >>> solid or stranded, they have different ends.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    > Check your pin-outs. Only some pairs will be used for the carrier-sense,
    > but more will be used if you try to actually use the cable.
    >
    > One test would be if you configure your devices to use half-duplex which
    > will use fewer of the pairs. If it works at half-duplex, and not at
    > full-duplex, then there's a problem (miss-wired and/or broken somewhere)
    > in the cable. Unless you have a cable tester that'll test all the pairs
    > then it'd be best to re-make the cable.
    >
    > Russ.
    >
    >




  7. #7
    Russ
    Guest

    Default Re: Cat5e Wiring

    Josh wrote:
    > figured it should out live me, but just thought it was strange..
    >
    > wire is solid and it is pinging and all just keeps coming with a limited
    > connection message and timing out.
    >
    > thanks for the reply
    >
    > josh
    >
    > "DT" <david@nospam.com> wrote in message
    > news:dup6pk$5ld2@news01.netobjects.com...
    >>> is going to sound stupid but does CAT5e cable go bad? how would it right?

    >> 1. CAT5e cable will outlive you and I.
    >> 2. If you are plugging in and getting an IP address from your DHCP
    >> server/router chances are you don't have a wiring problem. Are you
    >> getting an IP address?
    >> 3. Ping another PC on the network.
    >> 4. Make sure you are using the proper ends on the wire. If the wire is
    >> solid or stranded, they have different ends.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >

    Check your pin-outs. Only some pairs will be used for the carrier-sense,
    but more will be used if you try to actually use the cable.

    One test would be if you configure your devices to use half-duplex which
    will use fewer of the pairs. If it works at half-duplex, and not at
    full-duplex, then there's a problem (miss-wired and/or broken somewhere)
    in the cable. Unless you have a cable tester that'll test all the pairs
    then it'd be best to re-make the cable.

    Russ.



  8. #8
    Russ
    Guest

    Default Re: Cat5e Wiring


    oh, ....and check your network cards, too!

    ;-)

    Russ.
    Josh wrote:
    > i am starting to lean towards maybe a defective cable. not just the ones i
    > made but the entire 1000 feet. i did check all the cables with a cable
    > tester and all connections came back fine. i have made 10 cables now ranging
    > from 2 feet to 25 feet and get the same results.
    >
    >
    > "Russ" <RussellH@ysNOSPAMTODAYTHANKYOUmail.net> wrote in message
    > news:A921.1142006132.381@gfwebforum.com...
    >> Josh wrote:
    >>> figured it should out live me, but just thought it was strange..
    >>>
    >>> wire is solid and it is pinging and all just keeps coming with a limited
    >>> connection message and timing out.
    >>>
    >>> thanks for the reply
    >>>
    >>> josh
    >>>
    >>> "DT" <david@nospam.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:dup6pk$5ld2@news01.netobjects.com...
    >>>>> is going to sound stupid but does CAT5e cable go bad? how would it
    >>>>> right?
    >>>> 1. CAT5e cable will outlive you and I.
    >>>> 2. If you are plugging in and getting an IP address from your DHCP
    >>>> server/router chances are you don't have a wiring problem. Are you
    >>>> getting an IP address?
    >>>> 3. Ping another PC on the network.
    >>>> 4. Make sure you are using the proper ends on the wire. If the wire is
    >>>> solid or stranded, they have different ends.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>

    >> Check your pin-outs. Only some pairs will be used for the carrier-sense,
    >> but more will be used if you try to actually use the cable.
    >>
    >> One test would be if you configure your devices to use half-duplex which
    >> will use fewer of the pairs. If it works at half-duplex, and not at
    >> full-duplex, then there's a problem (miss-wired and/or broken somewhere)
    >> in the cable. Unless you have a cable tester that'll test all the pairs
    >> then it'd be best to re-make the cable.
    >>
    >> Russ.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >




  9. #9
    Stu Evans
    Guest

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    Hi,

    Most common mistake people make is to not put the cables in the correct
    pins.. dont just wire 1-1 2-2 etc. Do a search for wiring and it will give a
    and b methods. The cable is designed to work in pairs and will drop speed
    etc if you mix this up.

    Stu
    "Josh" <tirmgt@(NO=SPAM)netreach.net> wrote in message
    news:duq84g$5vm10@news01.netobjects.com...
    > figured it should out live me, but just thought it was strange..
    >
    > wire is solid and it is pinging and all just keeps coming with a limited
    > connection message and timing out.
    >
    > thanks for the reply
    >
    > josh
    >
    > "DT" <david@nospam.com> wrote in message
    > news:dup6pk$5ld2@news01.netobjects.com...
    >>> is going to sound stupid but does CAT5e cable go bad? how would it
    >>> right?

    >> 1. CAT5e cable will outlive you and I.
    >> 2. If you are plugging in and getting an IP address from your DHCP
    >> server/router chances are you don't have a wiring problem. Are you
    >> getting an IP address?
    >> 3. Ping another PC on the network.
    >> 4. Make sure you are using the proper ends on the wire. If the wire is
    >> solid or stranded, they have different ends.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >




  10. #10
    Stu Evans
    Guest

    Default Re: Cat5e Wiring

    Hi,

    Just thought that I would give you the colors on this link. Check to see
    that you have the colors in the correct places at either end. "and for those
    sceptics YES IT DOES MATTER !"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Cat5Diagram.jpg

    Stu :-)


    "Stu Evans" <stunospamevans9@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:dve30k$b8s2@news01.netobjects.com...
    > Hi,
    >
    > Most common mistake people make is to not put the cables in the correct
    > pins.. dont just wire 1-1 2-2 etc. Do a search for wiring and it will give
    > a and b methods. The cable is designed to work in pairs and will drop
    > speed etc if you mix this up.
    >
    > Stu
    > "Josh" <tirmgt@(NO=SPAM)netreach.net> wrote in message
    > news:duq84g$5vm10@news01.netobjects.com...
    >> figured it should out live me, but just thought it was strange..
    >>
    >> wire is solid and it is pinging and all just keeps coming with a limited
    >> connection message and timing out.
    >>
    >> thanks for the reply
    >>
    >> josh
    >>
    >> "DT" <david@nospam.com> wrote in message
    >> news:dup6pk$5ld2@news01.netobjects.com...
    >>>> is going to sound stupid but does CAT5e cable go bad? how would it
    >>>> right?
    >>> 1. CAT5e cable will outlive you and I.
    >>> 2. If you are plugging in and getting an IP address from your DHCP
    >>> server/router chances are you don't have a wiring problem. Are you
    >>> getting an IP address?
    >>> 3. Ping another PC on the network.
    >>> 4. Make sure you are using the proper ends on the wire. If the wire is
    >>> solid or stranded, they have different ends.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >




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