More bugs?

[Pop]

I know I wasn't invited to this thread and probably should only
post apologetically, but ...

FWIW, the "too large" is caused, apparently, by something going
wrong with the Master Border. Changing the Master Border will
usually, so far anyway, fix that situation. I had it happen to
me when I had to recover a site from my server. First set the MB
to zero margins, and then Add a new master border to use, and it
worked fine. I also managed to repair the original master border
that caused the problem, but I've forgotten right now how I did
it.

<RANT>
IMO version 8 & 9 have gone "buggy", thus I've stayed with 7
because besides being the version I started with, perusing all of
the ng's for 7 thru 9. 7 appears by far the most stable.
Luckily, the archives are retained, so I've been gratefulto have
them. As much as I like Fusion, and agree that their db concept
is a good one, I will not yet upgrade just because of the types
of message contents in those groups.
IMO it's unacceptable to say "Don't use Photo Gallery; use
this other one instead." I -might- agree if this were a $40 app,
but it's not. Even the upgrade prices are preposterously high,
IMO. Therefore, it has to work as advertised. Considering the
cost, Fusion is more than required to do what it says it does.
Excuses without fixes forthcoming for free, are totally and
completely unacceptable and not a way to do business.
And I'll "neglect to mention" the initial fraud pulled on me
with my first phoney "fully functional" and "free" version of
Fusion 7, a "$149 value" which couldn't be updated and couldn't
be used to upgrade! Nor will I mention how, when trying to
update or upgrade it, the program and the web site blamed
everything but reality for WHY the upgrade/update failed to
recognize my version.
Yes, that caused me great frustration but I did like the app,
and WSP finally let me have a copy of the "real" Fusion 7 for
$40,but it's not something I will soon forget about, e.g. the
bait & switch routine.
UNfortunately I DO really like Fusion 7 (with its updates).
</rant>
"!
For those reasons, I will, instead of upgrading, move to
another application if/when I need more than version 7 can
provide. IMO the app has reached a complexity beyond the ability
of WSP et al to properly test, starting at Version 8, and yet
continues to raise the cost with each succeeding rev.

Perhaps this answers some questions for the OP. Watch the post
not make it to the board now.

Regards,

Pop


"Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e22018$4o52@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> Thanks for the suggestions. It's NOT operator error. I'm
> doing nothing
> outside of creating pages and adding objects. I'm not advanced
> when it comes
> to web authoring. I frequently test and save when I know
> things are
> working. The problem is going back to the project at a later
> time produces
> corrupted objects that get deleted. All Links being lost in
> menu boxes,
> photos disappearing, objects suddenly being corrupted, etc.
>
> I tested again, and I now know for a fact, that after setting
> up a gallery,
> then going back in and changing the frame style is what caused
> all the full
> sized pictures to disappear. I tried it with the one good
> gallery page that
> remained, and went page by page in the album view, and all I
> saw was the
> thumbnails instead of the full sized photos. I had hoped to
> use the
> internal gallery creator so I could keep a consistent look
> across all my
> pages.
>
> As for posting something, that's just it... I have NOTHING to
> post, because
> 3 times already I have lost what I've done.
>
> I uploaded my old Website, created with Front Page 98 to my
> webserver
> www.chippeweb.com. This is basically what I want to do, with
> all those
> photos, and more,and a few other things. FP was SO easy to work
> with, and I
> never had any of the problems I have here. However, with all
> the changes MS
> has made to IE the stuff I created with FP is next to useless.
>
> Perhaps it IS the photo galleries that's the problem, as that
> is what has
> been giving me the most grief. However, what would I have
> possibly done to
> make Fusion refuse to open my Home Page for editing, greeting
> me with a
> "page too large" error and telling me to open it in Win NT4?
> Publishing the
> site locally showed no sign of large fonts in the home page.
> There were only
> 2 text paragraphs, regular font size, the rollover menu on the
> left, the
> banner, and a small photo of me in the top border.
>
>
> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
> news:e21ue1$4o51@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> | Hi, Anthony,
> |
> | Fusion's not a perfect program by any means, but when I read
> posts like
> | yours, I can't help but feel it's 'operator error' - and
> please don't take
> | that the wrong way. I've been using Fusion for about 9
> years, I guess,
> and
> | I can't even remember the last time it crashed for any
> reason. So I guess
> | what I'm wondering is if you've tried to take things step by
> step - saving
> | templates as you go - and seeing what exactly is causing the
> crashes -
....

[TheBox]

Anthony,

I had to take some beauty sleep after my posts, but I believe that the
others have picked up where I left off with all the right answers but to
your plight. Both Chuck and Lucian are well respected in my book and have
never led me a stray...
-
Bert

"LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
news:e222pv$4o53@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> Hi, Anthony,
>
> Well, I don't see anything on chippeweb.com which you couldn't do with
> Fusion, but not with the photo galleries, which use stacked pages. Fusion
> makes it very easy to use frames, for instance, and it's no problem
> whatsoever to link a photo to a thumbnail. As far as the pages being too
> large, well, are they? What size are you setting them to be?
>
> A corrupted installation is certainly not impossible, but if the program
> is coming up and working until you get to a certain step, it would seem to
> me that the problem is with that step.
>
> Why not just start tomorrow, post something which does work with, say, 6
> photos, don't change the frame yet, and let us look at it?
>
> There's enough collective experience here to fix most problems with Fusion
> sites. In fact, I can't think of a single problem we haven't gotten to
> the bottom of in the ca. 4 years I've been intensely reading and
> contributing to this newsgroup. Otherwise, we're all guessing and that's
> not productive and gets you no further.
>
> When you say you're doing nothing 'outside of creating pages and adding
> objects' - the question is how you're creating pages and adding objects.
> Until we see some code, we're all in the dark.
>
> Lucian
>
>
>
> "Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e22018$4o52@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> Thanks for the suggestions. It's NOT operator error. I'm doing nothing
>> outside of creating pages and adding objects. I'm not advanced when it
>> comes
>> to web authoring. I frequently test and save when I know things are
>> working. The problem is going back to the project at a later time
>> produces
>> corrupted objects that get deleted. All Links being lost in menu boxes,
>> photos disappearing, objects suddenly being corrupted, etc.
>>
>> I tested again, and I now know for a fact, that after setting up a
>> gallery,
>> then going back in and changing the frame style is what caused all the
>> full
>> sized pictures to disappear. I tried it with the one good gallery page
>> that
>> remained, and went page by page in the album view, and all I saw was the
>> thumbnails instead of the full sized photos. I had hoped to use the
>> internal gallery creator so I could keep a consistent look across all my
>> pages.
>>
>> As for posting something, that's just it... I have NOTHING to post,
>> because
>> 3 times already I have lost what I've done.
>>
>> I uploaded my old Website, created with Front Page 98 to my webserver
>> www.chippeweb.com. This is basically what I want to do, with all those
>> photos, and more,and a few other things. FP was SO easy to work with, and
>> I
>> never had any of the problems I have here. However, with all the changes
>> MS
>> has made to IE the stuff I created with FP is next to useless.
>>
>> Perhaps it IS the photo galleries that's the problem, as that is what has
>> been giving me the most grief. However, what would I have possibly done
>> to
>> make Fusion refuse to open my Home Page for editing, greeting me with a
>> "page too large" error and telling me to open it in Win NT4? Publishing
>> the
>> site locally showed no sign of large fonts in the home page. There were
>> only
>> 2 text paragraphs, regular font size, the rollover menu on the left, the
>> banner, and a small photo of me in the top border.
>>
>>
>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
>> news:e21ue1$4o51@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> | Hi, Anthony,
>> |
>> | Fusion's not a perfect program by any means, but when I read posts like
>> | yours, I can't help but feel it's 'operator error' - and please don't
>> take
>> | that the wrong way. I've been using Fusion for about 9 years, I guess,
>> and
>> | I can't even remember the last time it crashed for any reason. So I
>> guess
>> | what I'm wondering is if you've tried to take things step by step -
>> saving
>> | templates as you go - and seeing what exactly is causing the crashes -
>> i.e.,
>> | not to wait until you have four complete galleries with 60 photos each
>> up
>> | which then crash.
>> |
>> | Those of us who contribute to these newsgroups often will tell you
>> certain
>> | ways to keep your life simple using Fusion. In fact, I uploaded a post
>> on
>> | just that a while back which has been copied often since. If I get
>> | ambitious, I'll look for it and post it again or, what makes more
>> sense,
>> put
>> | it on my server.
>> |
>> | Its essence, though, was to use dynamic html output (instead of
>> | fixed-page-layout), CSS, simple table structures,etc. Also, when
>> you're
>> | just getting started, to take it slow, put a bit of text on a page,
>> local
>> | publish it, examine the code with 'View Source' - a great way to do
>> this
>> is
>> | with Firefox's Developers Toolbar, for instance- then put a bit more on
>> the
>> | page, see what it does, etc.. In other words, to not expect miracles
>> and
>> | improbably complicated things from Fusion or any other web design
>> software
>> | just because you believe the software should do what you want and the
>> rules
>> | of html and css and javascript be damned.
>> |
>> | Having said that - and I'm not saying that's what you did because
>> there's
>> | little anyone here can do but guess until you put up something for us
>> to
>> | actually look at and examine - Fusion's stacked pages - used in several
>> | places, including for photo galleries, seem to cause trouble more often
>> than
>> | not - but not because there's inherently anything wrong with the code,
>> just
>> | through people not understanding how to use them or what they can do.
>> |
>> | I and others gave up on Fusion's photo gallery tool a long time ago
>> because
>> | other gallery solutions seemed more flexible. My personal favorite is
>> | JAlbum's BananAlbum - available - free - from www.jalbum.net.
>> |
>> | You can see examples here:
>> |
>> | 1. used within a Fusion page as an I-frame:
>> | http://www.lwdgrfx.com/JAlbumIFrame/
>> | 2. used as a standalone album: http://www.lwdgrfx.com/2005FallMarket1/
>> |
>> | Take a look. You can integrate any of JAlbum's skins into Fusion
>> easily
>> | although I prefer to use them as standalone albums.
>> |
>> | If you have something we can look at, put it in a test subdirectory on
>> your
>> | server and post the link here. We may see something you're
>> overlooking.
>> |
>> | HTH,
>> |
>> | Lucian
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> | "Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> | news:e21s14$4o11@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> | >I am doing nothing outside of adding pages, photos, text FROM WITHIN
>> | >Fusion.
>> | > I am a novice at this (but VERY knowledgeable of computers, operating
>> | > systems, and software). I have know advanced knowledge of web
>> authoring,
>> | > so
>> | > I do not do anything outside of creating the WYSIWYG page creation
>> and
>> | > setting up photo galleries. I do nothing advanced, nor outside of
>> Fusion.
>> | > I
>> | > just wanted a simple site containing personal pages and photo albums.
>> | >
>> | > Also, I let the unzip window close on it's own when running the main
>> | > installer and the updater installer - I did not close them manually
>> or
>> | > interrupt them. Can you offer any suggestions as to what I might be
>> doing,
>> | > or have done to cause these problems? As I've stated
>> | >
>> | >
>> | > Here's my latest example:
>> | >
>> | > I set up 25 photo Gallery Pages, and completed 4 Complete galleries -
>> each
>> | > with between 30 and 60 photos. All thumbnails and photos WERE there,
>> now,
>> | > only the thumbnails are there - the full size photos are gone. I see
>> the
>> | > thumbnail page fine, but when I view the actual photo album pages,
>> the
>> | > thumbnails appear, not the full size photos. I have also discovered
>> that
>> | > using the beveled frame on the thumbnails page causes all the extra
>> space
>> | > between the end of the thumbnail gallery and the bottom of the page.
>> When
>> | > I
>> | > tried a few other frames, and resized the page, the page size stayed
>> put.
>> | > I
>> | > also suspect this is how all my photos were lost - in changing the
>> gallery
>> | > frames. In my recycle bin, I have noticed dozens and dozens of JPG
>> files -
>> | > the files that WERE part of the project. I did not put them there.
>> This
>> | > must have been what the software found that was "corrupted" and
>> deleted
>> | > them
>> | > as I mentioned previously.
>> | >
>> | > This was supposed to be a fun project to occupy my free time at
>> nights
>> and
>> | > weekends, but it's been turning into nothing more than anguish and
>> | > frustration for me. I am going to have to start this project over
>> again
>> | > for
>> | > a FOURTH time, should I be brave enough to try again.
>> | >
>> | > I just cannot understand why my pages are being changed out of
>> nowhere,
>> | > and
>> | > items just keep getting deleted or corrupted. I have well over 1,000
>> | > photos
>> | > I had wanted to include in this site, as well as many other pages,
>> but
>> it
>> | > looks like I won't be able to do this. I am getting very frustrated
>> with
>> | > this - not good for my blood pressure. I am doing nothing more than
>> | > running
>> | > the software, creating and adding pages, photos, texts and links -
>> but
>> | > things just keep disappearing. I have 50GB of webspace, and still
>> have
>> | > nothing to put up there.
>> | >
>> | > Having the computer knowledge I do, as well as my knack for problem
>> | > solving
>> | > (part of what I do for a living) seems to be of no help here, because
>> I
>> | > expend a great deal of time and effort into getting this website
>> created,
>> | > only to have it automatically destroyed at some point or other. The
>> | > aggravation it is causing me is no longer worth the effort, I am
>> afraid.
>> | > I
>> | > sincerely would like to be refunded.
>> | >
>> | > I thank you for you prompt response.
>> | >
>> | > Anthony Chiappette
>> | > Brooklyn, NY
>> | > achiappette AT nyc DOT rr DOT com.
>> | >
>> | >
>> | > "Chuck «BeyondFusion»" <supportno@spambeyondfusion.com> wrote in
>> message
>> | > news:e21o8j$3g94@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> | > | Anthony,
>> | > |
>> | > | Sorry you're having such difficulties.
>> | > |
>> | > | I can't help but think there's something you're doing (or have
>> done)
>> | > that's contributing to the problems.
>> | > |
>> | > | It doesn't help your situation, but I've found Fusion 9, especially
>> with
>> | > Update 2, to be very stable. As have many
>> | > | others.
>> | > |
>> | > | It has it's issues, but nothing like what you seem to be running
>> into.
>> | > |
>> | > | Have you added any content using HTML Source View?
>> | > |
>> | > | When you installed the software originally (and again when
>> installing
>> | > Update 2) did you allow the setup windows to close
>> | > | on their own? Particularly the self-extracting unzip Window.
>> Clsoing
>> it
>> | > manually can lead to an incomplete installation.
>> | > |
>> | > | --
>> | > | Chuck Joslin - Team NetObjects
>> | > | BeyondFusion.com - Your Fusion Community
>> | > | www.beyondfusion.com
>> | > |
>> | > | Fusion Wish List - www.beyondfusion.com/wish
>> | > | Register domain names at www.awavedomains.com
>> | > |
>> | > | "Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> | > news:e21lpl$3g93@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> | > | > No. I am creating everything within Fusion 9.
>> | > | >
>> | > | > This thing is really screwing up! I added another page, now,
>> every
>> | > page
>> | > I
>> | > | > navigate to says invalid objects were found and were deleted. IT
>> | > DELETED
>> | > | > ALL MY BORDER MENUS AND LINKS, AND ALL MY PHOTO GALLERIES!
>> | > | >
>> | > | > This software sucks BIG time. Do they give refunds? I requested
>> a
>> | > refund by
>> | > | > email, but have not heard back. Am I going to have to request
>> Amex
>> to
>> | > | > reverse this charge? I don't need this aggravation. 200.00 for
>> the
>> | > | > software, and 25.00 for site styles 1 & 2 - you'd think the
>> software
>> | > would
>> | > | > actually WORK. I should have trusted my judgment and just bought
>> | > Front
>> | > | > Page.
>> | > | >
>> | > | > I think I WOULD be better off just creating the pages in Word.
>> | > | >
>> | > | > "Chuck «BeyondFusion»" <supportno@spambeyondfusion.com> wrote in
>> | > message
>> | > | > news:e21k5o$3g92@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> | > | > | Have you been pasting in content from Microsoft Word, by any
>> chance?
>> | > | > |
>> | > | > | --
>> | > | > | Chuck Joslin - Team NetObjects
>> | > | > | BeyondFusion.com - Your Fusion Community
>> | > | > | www.beyondfusion.com
>> | > | > |
>> | > | > | Fusion Wish List - www.beyondfusion.com/wish
>> | > | > | Register domain names at www.awavedomains.com
>> | > | > |
>> | > | > | "Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> | > | > news:e21jbq$3g53@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> | > | > | > Yes, I have.
>> | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > "TheBox" <bequalsmc2@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
>> | > | > | > news:e21a8e$3g52@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> | > | > | > | Anthony,
>> | > | > | > |
>> | > | > | > | Have you updated to the latest patch released last week?
>> | > | > | > | -
>> | > | > | > | http://www.netobjects.com/support/html/produpdates.html
>> | > | > | > |
>> | > | > | > |
>> | > | > | > | "Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> message
>> | > | > | > | news:e219ae$3g51@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> | > | > | > | > Not to put anything down, as all software has bugs - but
>> some
>> | > of
>> | > the
>> | > | > | > | > problems I have seen in the 2 days I have used it are
>> amazing.
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | > I need help .... OR A REFUND! (I have already requested
>> one).
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | > 1) I spent about 2 hours getting my website together (a
>> | > personal
>> | > web
>> | > | > | > | > site).
>> | > | > | > | > The main focus will be photos of family / friends.
>> Anyway,
>> | > after 2
>> | > | > | > hours
>> | > | > | > | > of
>> | > | > | > | > work, and about 4 or 5 pages completed, I tried to open
>> the
>> | > project
>> | > | > | > again
>> | > | > | > | > and am greeted with a message that invalid objects were
>> found
>> | > and
>> | > | > would
>> | > | > | > be
>> | > | > | > | > removed. I was told the operation was successful. The
>> website
>> | > was
>> | > | > | > useless
>> | > | > | > | > after this. I had to start ALL OVER AGAIN.
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | > 2) By this time, I was a bit more comfortable and was
>> able
>> to
>> | > | > recreate
>> | > | > | > the
>> | > | > | > | > lost pages a bit more quickly. I tried to change some
>> settings
>> | > (I
>> | > | > forget
>> | > | > | > | > where), and the program just lost focus, like there was a
>> | > hidden
>> | > | > dialog
>> | > | > | > | > box
>> | > | > | > | > somewhere, but none was visible, nothing in the task
>> manager,
>> | > no
>> | > | > button
>> | > | > | > on
>> | > | > | > | > the task bar. I couldn't click on anything in the
>> window.
>> | > When
>> | > I
>> | > | > tried
>> | > | > | > to
>> | > | > | > | > click anywhere in the Fusion window I would get an error
>> beep
>> | > and
>> | > | > the
>> | > | > | > | > window
>> | > | > | > | > border would flash (exactly what happens when a dialog
>> box
>> is
>> | > | > displayed
>> | > | > | > | > and
>> | > | > | > | > you try to click outside the dialog). I had to kill
>> Fusion.
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | > 3) On next restart, I received a message that the site
>> was
>> | > corrupt
>> | > | > and a
>> | > | > | > | > backup would be restored. It seemed to restore fine. By
>> this
>> | > time,
>> | > | > I
>> | > | > | > had
>> | > | > | > | > about 30 incomplete pages in the website. I then
>> discovered
>> | > that
>> | > a
>> | > | > menu
>> | > | > | > | > drop
>> | > | > | > | > list I created with 25 items lost ALL the URLs I had
>> pasted
>> | > in.
>> | > The
>> | > | > text
>> | > | > | > | > labels were still there, but the URL boxes were blank. I
>> had
>> | > to
>> | > go
>> | > | > | > again,
>> | > | > | > | > and click, ONE BY ONE, then reposition the properties
>> window
>> | > to
>> | > get
>> | > | > to
>> | > | > | > the
>> | > | > | > | > next item, on and on, for all 25 links.
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | > 4) I fixed that and saved the project. Then, when I tried
>> to
>> | > go
>> | > to
>> | > | > my
>> | > | > | > home
>> | > | > | > | > page to edit it, it would not let me open the home page.
>> It
>> | > said
>> | > the
>> | > | > | > page
>> | > | > | > | > was too large and I needed to resize fonts in the
>> associated
>> | > style,
>> | > | > OR
>> | > | > | > | > open
>> | > | > | > | > it up in Windows NT 4 (HUH??????). The home page only
>> had
>> the
>> | > usual
>> | > | > | > | > rollover links in the border area and 2 paragraphs of
>> text,
>> | > and
>> | > a
>> | > | > small
>> | > | > | > | > picture. Funny - I could publish the site, and the home
>> page
>> | > was
>> | > | > fine -
>> | > | > | > | > no
>> | > | > | > | > large fonts, and the home page was only 1K in size. So,
>> I
>> had
>> | > to
>> | > | > create
>> | > | > | > a
>> | > | > | > | > new page, then drag it above the home page to make that
>> my
>> NEW
>> | > home
>> | > | > | > page,
>> | > | > | > | > then delete the old home page.
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | > 5) This one really IRKS me to no end... I have created
>> many
>> | > photo
>> | > | > | > gallery
>> | > | > | > | > pages, and have completed 4 pages so far. When I created
>> the
>> | > pages,
>> | > | > I
>> | > | > | > | > resized the bottom border to just below the bottom of the
>> | > thumbnails
>> | > | > | > grid.
>> | > | > | > | > However, Fusion INSISTS on creating A LOT of empty space
>> after
>> | > the
>> | > | > end
>> | > | > | > of
>> | > | > | > | > the thumbnails. I have links in the bottom border of
>> these
>> | > pages, so
>> | > | > one
>> | > | > | > | > would need to scroll all the way down to get to those
>> links.
>> | > No
>> | > | > matter
>> | > | > | > | > how
>> | > | > | > | > many times I resize the height of the page, it always
>> reverts
>> | > to
>> | > the
>> | > | > big
>> | > | > | > | > empty space. If I resize the page, then preview the page,
>> the
>> | > blank
>> | > | > | > space
>> | > | > | > | > is
>> | > | > | > | > gone - until I view the page in the editor again. Why
>> does
>> it
>> | > do
>> | > | > | > this???
>> | > | > | > | > And how do I get rid of the empty space?
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | > I have WinXP home - all updates (NOT IE 7), 3GB DDR RAM,
>> 1
>> TB
>> | > HD
>> | > | > space
>> | > | > | > (on
>> | > | > | > | > 2
>> | > | > | > | > physical drives) about 600GB free space on drives. I
>> would
>> | > think
>> | > | > the
>> | > | > | > | > software would behave better than this.
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | > Any comments/suggestions/criticisms welcomed. Thank you.
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[LWD]

Hi, Anthony,

Well, that page doesn't have a photo gallery, and the photo galleries seem
to be causing your problem, so that's why we're curious to see what they
might look like. But, as I say, just upload one with five or six photos.

As far as the page you uploaded, what I see are a lot of extra table cells.
Fusion uses tables for positioning, but there are ways to keep the number of
tables down. A good way to see the structure visually is to use Firefox's
Developer Toolbar, which is available for free here:
http://chrispederick.com/work/webdeveloper/

I'm attaching a screenshot of your page with the table cells outlined.

I also was curious to know if you're using CSS (you are) and the dynamic
html setting, so those are both good starts. Much of what you did with your
original site using frames you can do far more easily with Fusion's master
borders, but I'd seriously look at using an external photo gallery myself.
Nevertheless, upload one so we can all take a look.

Lucian


"Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e24e2r$dqt1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> Thanks. I uploaded some pages to
> http://www.chippeweb.com/newsite/index.html
> and this is basically what I want to do, with more personal pages, a guest
> book, and A LOT more photos. This is the same basic design I was using.
> I
> like this style. I created 4 galleries with about 20 or so photos each.
> All
> this worked fine.
>
> I appreciate all the help. Thank you.
>
> Incidentally, that site, I created about 7 years go with FP98.
>
> Anthony.
>
>
> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
> news:e247pv$cso4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> | Hi, Anthony,
> |
> | Well, I mentioned frames because your FrontPage site has them and I've
> found
> | that new Fusion users are often confused about master borders.
> |
> | If you upload a few pages, just put five or six images on them. They'll
> be
> | enough for us to get an idea what's going on.
> |
> | Lucian
> |
> | "Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:e2473f$csp5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> | >I wasn't using frames - I added a few items to the MasterBorder , and
> even
> | > made a copy of the MasterBorder so I can change some objects on
> certain
> | > pages.
> | >
> | > I am going to rebuild a few of the pages and post them so I can show
> you
> | > what I am trying to accomplish.
> | >
> | > I appreciate all the effort everyone is extending to help me out.
> Thanks
> | > to
> | > everyone.
> | >
> | > "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
> | > news:e23hep$8sk4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> | > | Something else just occurred to me since you're new to Fusion,
> Anthony.
> | > |
> | > | A lot of new Fusion users confuse frames with Master Borders.
> | > |
> | > | You can have
> | > | * frames without master borders
> | > | * master borders without frames, and
> | > | * master borders which are frames.
> | > |
> | > | Additionally, the term 'master border' is a bit confusing.
> | > |
> | > | The name would seem to imply that a 'master border' has to go all
> the
> | > way
> | > | through a site. But, in fact, a site can have as many 'master
> borders'
> | > as
> | > a
> | > | designer wants - e.g., a 'master border' for 'Work', a 'master
> border'
> | > for
> | > | 'My New House', a 'master border' for 'Friends', one for 'Family'
> etc.
> | > You
> | > | can put match any master border to any page and change it at any
> time.
> | > |
> | > | Think of 'master borders' as 'repeated elements' - which, in
> Fusion's
> | > case,
> | > | work on the four borders of a page, if you want, though you can have
> | > just
> | > | one side of a page be a master border.
> | > |
> | > | Lucian
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | "Pop" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
> | > | news:e23446$7nb3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> | > | >I know I wasn't invited to this thread and probably should only
> post
> | > | >apologetically, but ...
> | > | >
> | > | > FWIW, the "too large" is caused, apparently, by something going
> wrong
> | > with
> | > | > the Master Border. Changing the Master Border will usually, so
> far
> | > | > anyway, fix that situation. I had it happen to me when I had to
> | > recover
> | > a
> | > | > site from my server. First set the MB to zero margins, and then
> Add
> a
> | > new
> | > | > master border to use, and it worked fine. I also managed to
> repair
> | > the
> | > | > original master border that caused the problem, but I've forgotten
> | > right
> | > | > now how I did it.
> | > | >
> | > | > <RANT>
> | > | > IMO version 8 & 9 have gone "buggy", thus I've stayed with 7
> because
> | > | > besides being the version I started with, perusing all of the ng's
> for
> | > 7
> | > | > thru 9. 7 appears by far the most stable. Luckily, the archives
> are
> | > | > retained, so I've been gratefulto have them. As much as I like
> | > Fusion,
> | > | > and agree that their db concept is a good one, I will not yet
> upgrade
> | > just
> | > | > because of the types of message contents in those groups.
> | > | > IMO it's unacceptable to say "Don't use Photo Gallery; use this
> | > other
> | > | > one instead." I -might- agree if this were a $40 app, but it's
> not.
> | > Even
> | > | > the upgrade prices are preposterously high, IMO. Therefore, it
> has
> to
> | > | > work as advertised. Considering the cost, Fusion is more than
> | > required
> | > to
> | > | > do what it says it does. Excuses without fixes forthcoming for
> free,
> | > are
> | > | > totally and completely unacceptable and not a way to do business.
> | > | > And I'll "neglect to mention" the initial fraud pulled on me
> with
> my
> | > | > first phoney "fully functional" and "free" version of Fusion 7, a
> | > "$149
> | > | > value" which couldn't be updated and couldn't be used to upgrade!
> Nor
> | > | > will I mention how, when trying to update or upgrade it, the
> program
> | > and
> | > | > the web site blamed everything but reality for WHY the
> upgrade/update
> | > | > failed to recognize my version.
> | > | > Yes, that caused me great frustration but I did like the app,
> and
> | > WSP
> | > | > finally let me have a copy of the "real" Fusion 7 for $40,but it's
> not
> | > | > something I will soon forget about, e.g. the bait & switch
> routine.
> | > | > UNfortunately I DO really like Fusion 7 (with its updates).
> | > | > </rant>
> | > | > "!
> | > | > For those reasons, I will, instead of upgrading, move to another
> | > | > application if/when I need more than version 7 can provide. IMO
> the
> | > app
> | > | > has reached a complexity beyond the ability of WSP et al to
> properly
> | > test,
> | > | > starting at Version 8, and yet continues to raise the cost with
> each
> | > | > succeeding rev.
> | > | >
> | > | > Perhaps this answers some questions for the OP. Watch the post
> not
> | > make
> | > | > it to the board now.
> | > | >
> | > | > Regards,
> | > | >
> | > | > Pop
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > "Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > | > news:e22018$4o52@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> | > | >> Thanks for the suggestions. It's NOT operator error. I'm doing
> | > nothing
> | > | >> outside of creating pages and adding objects. I'm not advanced
> when
> | > it
> | > | >> comes
> | > | >> to web authoring. I frequently test and save when I know things
> are
> | > | >> working. The problem is going back to the project at a later time
> | > | >> produces
> | > | >> corrupted objects that get deleted. All Links being lost in menu
> | > boxes,
> | > | >> photos disappearing, objects suddenly being corrupted, etc.
> | > | >>
> | > | >> I tested again, and I now know for a fact, that after setting up
> a
> | > | >> gallery,
> | > | >> then going back in and changing the frame style is what caused
> all
> | > the
> | > | >> full
> | > | >> sized pictures to disappear. I tried it with the one good
> gallery
> | > page
> | > | >> that
> | > | >> remained, and went page by page in the album view, and all I saw
> was
> | > the
> | > | >> thumbnails instead of the full sized photos. I had hoped to use
> the
> | > | >> internal gallery creator so I could keep a consistent look across
> all
> | > my
> | > | >> pages.
> | > | >>
> | > | >> As for posting something, that's just it... I have NOTHING to
> post,
> | > | >> because
> | > | >> 3 times already I have lost what I've done.
> | > | >>
> | > | >> I uploaded my old Website, created with Front Page 98 to my
> webserver
> | > | >> www.chippeweb.com. This is basically what I want to do, with all
> | > those
> | > | >> photos, and more,and a few other things. FP was SO easy to work
> with,
> | > and
> | > | >> I
> | > | >> never had any of the problems I have here. However, with all the
> | > changes
> | > | >> MS
> | > | >> has made to IE the stuff I created with FP is next to useless.
> | > | >>
> | > | >> Perhaps it IS the photo galleries that's the problem, as that is
> what
> | > has
> | > | >> been giving me the most grief. However, what would I have
> possibly
> | > done
> | > | >> to
> | > | >> make Fusion refuse to open my Home Page for editing, greeting me
> with
> | > a
> | > | >> "page too large" error and telling me to open it in Win NT4?
> | > Publishing
> | > | >> the
> | > | >> site locally showed no sign of large fonts in the home page.
> There
> | > were
> | > | >> only
> | > | >> 2 text paragraphs, regular font size, the rollover menu on the
> left,
> | > the
> | > | >> banner, and a small photo of me in the top border.
> | > | >>
> | > | >>
> | > | >> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
> | > | >> news:e21ue1$4o51@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> | > | >> | Hi, Anthony,
> | > | >> |
> | > | >> | Fusion's not a perfect program by any means, but when I read
> posts
> | > like
> | > | >> | yours, I can't help but feel it's 'operator error' - and please
> | > don't
> | > | >> take
> | > | >> | that the wrong way. I've been using Fusion for about 9 years,
> I
> | > guess,
> | > | >> and
> | > | >> | I can't even remember the last time it crashed for any reason.
> So
> | > I
> | > | >> guess
> | > | >> | what I'm wondering is if you've tried to take things step by
> step -
> | > | >> saving
> | > | >> | templates as you go - and seeing what exactly is causing the
> | > crashes -
> | > | > ...
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

[Nancy O]

Good grief. Please don't place 1500+ photos into one nod file. NOF gallery
databases should be kept to just a few per nod file. I don't use more than
20-30 photos per gallery. 60 would be pushing the NOF limits. Perhaps you
should look at jalbum which Lucian highly recommends. But even Jalbum has
limits, too.

--Nancy




"Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e247es$csp6@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> Thanks for the suggestion. I had already resized and optimized the
images.
> The total size for ALL of the photos I have so far is only 67.5 MEGAbytes.
I
> have a total of 1,518 photos, which I had hoped to spread across the 25
> galleries. Most are sized to approx 320 pixels wide, and a few are 640
> pixels. Most files are less than 40K each.
>
> If you look at the galleries I created on my old website
www.chippeweb.com,
> these are all the same photos I was trying to add to gallery pages in
> Fusion.
>
>
> "Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
> news:e238i0$87n4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> | Hi Anthony,
> | Welcome to the NOF newsgroup. I agree with Chuck and Lucian but would
> also
> | add this:
> |
> | Optimize those family photos in Photoshop or some other photo editing
> | program BEFORE inserting images into NOF. No web design program can
> handle
> | huge (5-8 megapixel) image libraries. Full size Photo Gallery images
> should
> | be compressed into 30-50 kb jpgs before you bring them into NOF,
otherwise
> | you are inviting disaster.
> |
> | Best of luck on your project,
> |
> | --Nancy
> |
> |
> | "Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:e219ae$3g51@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> | > Not to put anything down, as all software has bugs - but some of the
> | > problems I have seen in the 2 days I have used it are amazing.
> | >
> | > I need help .... OR A REFUND! (I have already requested one).
> | >
> | >
> | > 1) I spent about 2 hours getting my website together (a personal web
> | site).
> | > The main focus will be photos of family / friends. Anyway, after 2
> hours
> | of
> | > work, and about 4 or 5 pages completed, I tried to open the project
> again
> | > and am greeted with a message that invalid objects were found and
would
> be
> | > removed. I was told the operation was successful. The website was
> useless
> | > after this. I had to start ALL OVER AGAIN.
> | >
> | > 2) By this time, I was a bit more comfortable and was able to recreate
> the
> | > lost pages a bit more quickly. I tried to change some settings (I
forget
> | > where), and the program just lost focus, like there was a hidden
dialog
> | box
> | > somewhere, but none was visible, nothing in the task manager, no
button
> on
> | > the task bar. I couldn't click on anything in the window. When I
tried
> to
> | > click anywhere in the Fusion window I would get an error beep and the
> | window
> | > border would flash (exactly what happens when a dialog box is
displayed
> | and
> | > you try to click outside the dialog). I had to kill Fusion.
> | >
> | > 3) On next restart, I received a message that the site was corrupt and
a
> | > backup would be restored. It seemed to restore fine. By this time, I
> had
> | > about 30 incomplete pages in the website. I then discovered that a
menu
> | drop
> | > list I created with 25 items lost ALL the URLs I had pasted in. The
text
> | > labels were still there, but the URL boxes were blank. I had to go
> again,
> | > and click, ONE BY ONE, then reposition the properties window to get to
> the
> | > next item, on and on, for all 25 links.
> | >
> | > 4) I fixed that and saved the project. Then, when I tried to go to my
> home
> | > page to edit it, it would not let me open the home page. It said the
> page
> | > was too large and I needed to resize fonts in the associated style, OR
> | open
> | > it up in Windows NT 4 (HUH??????). The home page only had the usual
> | > rollover links in the border area and 2 paragraphs of text, and a
small
> | > picture. Funny - I could publish the site, and the home page was
fine -
> | no
> | > large fonts, and the home page was only 1K in size. So, I had to
create
> a
> | > new page, then drag it above the home page to make that my NEW home
> page,
> | > then delete the old home page.
> | >
> | > 5) This one really IRKS me to no end... I have created many photo
> gallery
> | > pages, and have completed 4 pages so far. When I created the pages, I
> | > resized the bottom border to just below the bottom of the thumbnails
> grid.
> | > However, Fusion INSISTS on creating A LOT of empty space after the end
> of
> | > the thumbnails. I have links in the bottom border of these pages, so
one
> | > would need to scroll all the way down to get to those links. No
matter
> | how
> | > many times I resize the height of the page, it always reverts to the
big
> | > empty space. If I resize the page, then preview the page, the blank
> space
> | is
> | > gone - until I view the page in the editor again. Why does it do
> this???
> | > And how do I get rid of the empty space?
> | >
> | > I have WinXP home - all updates (NOT IE 7), 3GB DDR RAM, 1 TB HD space
> (on
> | 2
> | > physical drives) about 600GB free space on drives. I would think the
> | > software would behave better than this.
> | >
> | > Any comments/suggestions/criticisms welcomed. Thank you.
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

[Anthony]

Thanks. I uploaded some pages to
http://www.chippeweb.com/newsite/index.html
and this is basically what I want to do, with more personal pages, a guest
book, and A LOT more photos. This is the same basic design I was using. I
like this style. I created 4 galleries with about 20 or so photos each. All
this worked fine.

I appreciate all the help. Thank you.

Incidentally, that site, I created about 7 years go with FP98.

Anthony.


"LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
news:e247pv$cso4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
| Hi, Anthony,
|
| Well, I mentioned frames because your FrontPage site has them and I've
found
| that new Fusion users are often confused about master borders.
|
| If you upload a few pages, just put five or six images on them. They'll
be
| enough for us to get an idea what's going on.
|
| Lucian
|
| "Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:e2473f$csp5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
| >I wasn't using frames - I added a few items to the MasterBorder , and
even
| > made a copy of the MasterBorder so I can change some objects on certain
| > pages.
| >
| > I am going to rebuild a few of the pages and post them so I can show you
| > what I am trying to accomplish.
| >
| > I appreciate all the effort everyone is extending to help me out.
Thanks
| > to
| > everyone.
| >
| > "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
| > news:e23hep$8sk4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
| > | Something else just occurred to me since you're new to Fusion,
Anthony.
| > |
| > | A lot of new Fusion users confuse frames with Master Borders.
| > |
| > | You can have
| > | * frames without master borders
| > | * master borders without frames, and
| > | * master borders which are frames.
| > |
| > | Additionally, the term 'master border' is a bit confusing.
| > |
| > | The name would seem to imply that a 'master border' has to go all the
| > way
| > | through a site. But, in fact, a site can have as many 'master
borders'
| > as
| > a
| > | designer wants - e.g., a 'master border' for 'Work', a 'master border'
| > for
| > | 'My New House', a 'master border' for 'Friends', one for 'Family' etc.
| > You
| > | can put match any master border to any page and change it at any time.
| > |
| > | Think of 'master borders' as 'repeated elements' - which, in Fusion's
| > case,
| > | work on the four borders of a page, if you want, though you can have
| > just
| > | one side of a page be a master border.
| > |
| > | Lucian
| > |
| > |
| > | "Pop" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
| > | news:e23446$7nb3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
| > | >I know I wasn't invited to this thread and probably should only post
| > | >apologetically, but ...
| > | >
| > | > FWIW, the "too large" is caused, apparently, by something going
wrong
| > with
| > | > the Master Border. Changing the Master Border will usually, so far
| > | > anyway, fix that situation. I had it happen to me when I had to
| > recover
| > a
| > | > site from my server. First set the MB to zero margins, and then Add
a
| > new
| > | > master border to use, and it worked fine. I also managed to repair
| > the
| > | > original master border that caused the problem, but I've forgotten
| > right
| > | > now how I did it.
| > | >
| > | > <RANT>
| > | > IMO version 8 & 9 have gone "buggy", thus I've stayed with 7 because
| > | > besides being the version I started with, perusing all of the ng's
for
| > 7
| > | > thru 9. 7 appears by far the most stable. Luckily, the archives are
| > | > retained, so I've been gratefulto have them. As much as I like
| > Fusion,
| > | > and agree that their db concept is a good one, I will not yet
upgrade
| > just
| > | > because of the types of message contents in those groups.
| > | > IMO it's unacceptable to say "Don't use Photo Gallery; use this
| > other
| > | > one instead." I -might- agree if this were a $40 app, but it's not.
| > Even
| > | > the upgrade prices are preposterously high, IMO. Therefore, it has
to
| > | > work as advertised. Considering the cost, Fusion is more than
| > required
| > to
| > | > do what it says it does. Excuses without fixes forthcoming for free,
| > are
| > | > totally and completely unacceptable and not a way to do business.
| > | > And I'll "neglect to mention" the initial fraud pulled on me with
my
| > | > first phoney "fully functional" and "free" version of Fusion 7, a
| > "$149
| > | > value" which couldn't be updated and couldn't be used to upgrade!
Nor
| > | > will I mention how, when trying to update or upgrade it, the program
| > and
| > | > the web site blamed everything but reality for WHY the
upgrade/update
| > | > failed to recognize my version.
| > | > Yes, that caused me great frustration but I did like the app, and
| > WSP
| > | > finally let me have a copy of the "real" Fusion 7 for $40,but it's
not
| > | > something I will soon forget about, e.g. the bait & switch routine.
| > | > UNfortunately I DO really like Fusion 7 (with its updates).
| > | > </rant>
| > | > "!
| > | > For those reasons, I will, instead of upgrading, move to another
| > | > application if/when I need more than version 7 can provide. IMO the
| > app
| > | > has reached a complexity beyond the ability of WSP et al to properly
| > test,
| > | > starting at Version 8, and yet continues to raise the cost with each
| > | > succeeding rev.
| > | >
| > | > Perhaps this answers some questions for the OP. Watch the post not
| > make
| > | > it to the board now.
| > | >
| > | > Regards,
| > | >
| > | > Pop
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:e22018$4o52@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
| > | >> Thanks for the suggestions. It's NOT operator error. I'm doing
| > nothing
| > | >> outside of creating pages and adding objects. I'm not advanced when
| > it
| > | >> comes
| > | >> to web authoring. I frequently test and save when I know things
are
| > | >> working. The problem is going back to the project at a later time
| > | >> produces
| > | >> corrupted objects that get deleted. All Links being lost in menu
| > boxes,
| > | >> photos disappearing, objects suddenly being corrupted, etc.
| > | >>
| > | >> I tested again, and I now know for a fact, that after setting up a
| > | >> gallery,
| > | >> then going back in and changing the frame style is what caused all
| > the
| > | >> full
| > | >> sized pictures to disappear. I tried it with the one good gallery
| > page
| > | >> that
| > | >> remained, and went page by page in the album view, and all I saw
was
| > the
| > | >> thumbnails instead of the full sized photos. I had hoped to use
the
| > | >> internal gallery creator so I could keep a consistent look across
all
| > my
| > | >> pages.
| > | >>
| > | >> As for posting something, that's just it... I have NOTHING to post,
| > | >> because
| > | >> 3 times already I have lost what I've done.
| > | >>
| > | >> I uploaded my old Website, created with Front Page 98 to my
webserver
| > | >> www.chippeweb.com. This is basically what I want to do, with all
| > those
| > | >> photos, and more,and a few other things. FP was SO easy to work
with,
| > and
| > | >> I
| > | >> never had any of the problems I have here. However, with all the
| > changes
| > | >> MS
| > | >> has made to IE the stuff I created with FP is next to useless.
| > | >>
| > | >> Perhaps it IS the photo galleries that's the problem, as that is
what
| > has
| > | >> been giving me the most grief. However, what would I have possibly
| > done
| > | >> to
| > | >> make Fusion refuse to open my Home Page for editing, greeting me
with
| > a
| > | >> "page too large" error and telling me to open it in Win NT4?
| > Publishing
| > | >> the
| > | >> site locally showed no sign of large fonts in the home page. There
| > were
| > | >> only
| > | >> 2 text paragraphs, regular font size, the rollover menu on the
left,
| > the
| > | >> banner, and a small photo of me in the top border.
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
| > | >> news:e21ue1$4o51@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
| > | >> | Hi, Anthony,
| > | >> |
| > | >> | Fusion's not a perfect program by any means, but when I read
posts
| > like
| > | >> | yours, I can't help but feel it's 'operator error' - and please
| > don't
| > | >> take
| > | >> | that the wrong way. I've been using Fusion for about 9 years, I
| > guess,
| > | >> and
| > | >> | I can't even remember the last time it crashed for any reason.
So
| > I
| > | >> guess
| > | >> | what I'm wondering is if you've tried to take things step by
step -
| > | >> saving
| > | >> | templates as you go - and seeing what exactly is causing the
| > crashes -
| > | > ...
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

[Anthony]

Thanks for the suggestion. I had already resized and optimized the images.
The total size for ALL of the photos I have so far is only 67.5 MEGAbytes. I
have a total of 1,518 photos, which I had hoped to spread across the 25
galleries. Most are sized to approx 320 pixels wide, and a few are 640
pixels. Most files are less than 40K each.

If you look at the galleries I created on my old website www.chippeweb.com,
these are all the same photos I was trying to add to gallery pages in
Fusion.


"Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:e238i0$87n4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
| Hi Anthony,
| Welcome to the NOF newsgroup. I agree with Chuck and Lucian but would
also
| add this:
|
| Optimize those family photos in Photoshop or some other photo editing
| program BEFORE inserting images into NOF. No web design program can
handle
| huge (5-8 megapixel) image libraries. Full size Photo Gallery images
should
| be compressed into 30-50 kb jpgs before you bring them into NOF, otherwise
| you are inviting disaster.
|
| Best of luck on your project,
|
| --Nancy
|
|
| "Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:e219ae$3g51@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
| > Not to put anything down, as all software has bugs - but some of the
| > problems I have seen in the 2 days I have used it are amazing.
| >
| > I need help .... OR A REFUND! (I have already requested one).
| >
| >
| > 1) I spent about 2 hours getting my website together (a personal web
| site).
| > The main focus will be photos of family / friends. Anyway, after 2
hours
| of
| > work, and about 4 or 5 pages completed, I tried to open the project
again
| > and am greeted with a message that invalid objects were found and would
be
| > removed. I was told the operation was successful. The website was
useless
| > after this. I had to start ALL OVER AGAIN.
| >
| > 2) By this time, I was a bit more comfortable and was able to recreate
the
| > lost pages a bit more quickly. I tried to change some settings (I forget
| > where), and the program just lost focus, like there was a hidden dialog
| box
| > somewhere, but none was visible, nothing in the task manager, no button
on
| > the task bar. I couldn't click on anything in the window. When I tried
to
| > click anywhere in the Fusion window I would get an error beep and the
| window
| > border would flash (exactly what happens when a dialog box is displayed
| and
| > you try to click outside the dialog). I had to kill Fusion.
| >
| > 3) On next restart, I received a message that the site was corrupt and a
| > backup would be restored. It seemed to restore fine. By this time, I
had
| > about 30 incomplete pages in the website. I then discovered that a menu
| drop
| > list I created with 25 items lost ALL the URLs I had pasted in. The text
| > labels were still there, but the URL boxes were blank. I had to go
again,
| > and click, ONE BY ONE, then reposition the properties window to get to
the
| > next item, on and on, for all 25 links.
| >
| > 4) I fixed that and saved the project. Then, when I tried to go to my
home
| > page to edit it, it would not let me open the home page. It said the
page
| > was too large and I needed to resize fonts in the associated style, OR
| open
| > it up in Windows NT 4 (HUH??????). The home page only had the usual
| > rollover links in the border area and 2 paragraphs of text, and a small
| > picture. Funny - I could publish the site, and the home page was fine -
| no
| > large fonts, and the home page was only 1K in size. So, I had to create
a
| > new page, then drag it above the home page to make that my NEW home
page,
| > then delete the old home page.
| >
| > 5) This one really IRKS me to no end... I have created many photo
gallery
| > pages, and have completed 4 pages so far. When I created the pages, I
| > resized the bottom border to just below the bottom of the thumbnails
grid.
| > However, Fusion INSISTS on creating A LOT of empty space after the end
of
| > the thumbnails. I have links in the bottom border of these pages, so one
| > would need to scroll all the way down to get to those links. No matter
| how
| > many times I resize the height of the page, it always reverts to the big
| > empty space. If I resize the page, then preview the page, the blank
space
| is
| > gone - until I view the page in the editor again. Why does it do
this???
| > And how do I get rid of the empty space?
| >
| > I have WinXP home - all updates (NOT IE 7), 3GB DDR RAM, 1 TB HD space
(on
| 2
| > physical drives) about 600GB free space on drives. I would think the
| > software would behave better than this.
| >
| > Any comments/suggestions/criticisms welcomed. Thank you.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|

[Anthony]

I wasn't using frames - I added a few items to the MasterBorder , and even
made a copy of the MasterBorder so I can change some objects on certain
pages.

I am going to rebuild a few of the pages and post them so I can show you
what I am trying to accomplish.

I appreciate all the effort everyone is extending to help me out. Thanks to
everyone.

"LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
news:e23hep$8sk4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
| Something else just occurred to me since you're new to Fusion, Anthony.
|
| A lot of new Fusion users confuse frames with Master Borders.
|
| You can have
| * frames without master borders
| * master borders without frames, and
| * master borders which are frames.
|
| Additionally, the term 'master border' is a bit confusing.
|
| The name would seem to imply that a 'master border' has to go all the way
| through a site. But, in fact, a site can have as many 'master borders' as
a
| designer wants - e.g., a 'master border' for 'Work', a 'master border' for
| 'My New House', a 'master border' for 'Friends', one for 'Family' etc.
You
| can put match any master border to any page and change it at any time.
|
| Think of 'master borders' as 'repeated elements' - which, in Fusion's
case,
| work on the four borders of a page, if you want, though you can have just
| one side of a page be a master border.
|
| Lucian
|
|
| "Pop" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
| news:e23446$7nb3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
| >I know I wasn't invited to this thread and probably should only post
| >apologetically, but ...
| >
| > FWIW, the "too large" is caused, apparently, by something going wrong
with
| > the Master Border. Changing the Master Border will usually, so far
| > anyway, fix that situation. I had it happen to me when I had to recover
a
| > site from my server. First set the MB to zero margins, and then Add a
new
| > master border to use, and it worked fine. I also managed to repair the
| > original master border that caused the problem, but I've forgotten right
| > now how I did it.
| >
| > <RANT>
| > IMO version 8 & 9 have gone "buggy", thus I've stayed with 7 because
| > besides being the version I started with, perusing all of the ng's for 7
| > thru 9. 7 appears by far the most stable. Luckily, the archives are
| > retained, so I've been gratefulto have them. As much as I like Fusion,
| > and agree that their db concept is a good one, I will not yet upgrade
just
| > because of the types of message contents in those groups.
| > IMO it's unacceptable to say "Don't use Photo Gallery; use this other
| > one instead." I -might- agree if this were a $40 app, but it's not.
Even
| > the upgrade prices are preposterously high, IMO. Therefore, it has to
| > work as advertised. Considering the cost, Fusion is more than required
to
| > do what it says it does. Excuses without fixes forthcoming for free, are
| > totally and completely unacceptable and not a way to do business.
| > And I'll "neglect to mention" the initial fraud pulled on me with my
| > first phoney "fully functional" and "free" version of Fusion 7, a "$149
| > value" which couldn't be updated and couldn't be used to upgrade! Nor
| > will I mention how, when trying to update or upgrade it, the program and
| > the web site blamed everything but reality for WHY the upgrade/update
| > failed to recognize my version.
| > Yes, that caused me great frustration but I did like the app, and WSP
| > finally let me have a copy of the "real" Fusion 7 for $40,but it's not
| > something I will soon forget about, e.g. the bait & switch routine.
| > UNfortunately I DO really like Fusion 7 (with its updates).
| > </rant>
| > "!
| > For those reasons, I will, instead of upgrading, move to another
| > application if/when I need more than version 7 can provide. IMO the app
| > has reached a complexity beyond the ability of WSP et al to properly
test,
| > starting at Version 8, and yet continues to raise the cost with each
| > succeeding rev.
| >
| > Perhaps this answers some questions for the OP. Watch the post not make
| > it to the board now.
| >
| > Regards,
| >
| > Pop
| >
| >
| > "Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:e22018$4o52@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
| >> Thanks for the suggestions. It's NOT operator error. I'm doing
nothing
| >> outside of creating pages and adding objects. I'm not advanced when it
| >> comes
| >> to web authoring. I frequently test and save when I know things are
| >> working. The problem is going back to the project at a later time
| >> produces
| >> corrupted objects that get deleted. All Links being lost in menu boxes,
| >> photos disappearing, objects suddenly being corrupted, etc.
| >>
| >> I tested again, and I now know for a fact, that after setting up a
| >> gallery,
| >> then going back in and changing the frame style is what caused all the
| >> full
| >> sized pictures to disappear. I tried it with the one good gallery page
| >> that
| >> remained, and went page by page in the album view, and all I saw was
the
| >> thumbnails instead of the full sized photos. I had hoped to use the
| >> internal gallery creator so I could keep a consistent look across all
my
| >> pages.
| >>
| >> As for posting something, that's just it... I have NOTHING to post,
| >> because
| >> 3 times already I have lost what I've done.
| >>
| >> I uploaded my old Website, created with Front Page 98 to my webserver
| >> www.chippeweb.com. This is basically what I want to do, with all those
| >> photos, and more,and a few other things. FP was SO easy to work with,
and
| >> I
| >> never had any of the problems I have here. However, with all the
changes
| >> MS
| >> has made to IE the stuff I created with FP is next to useless.
| >>
| >> Perhaps it IS the photo galleries that's the problem, as that is what
has
| >> been giving me the most grief. However, what would I have possibly
done
| >> to
| >> make Fusion refuse to open my Home Page for editing, greeting me with a
| >> "page too large" error and telling me to open it in Win NT4? Publishing
| >> the
| >> site locally showed no sign of large fonts in the home page. There were
| >> only
| >> 2 text paragraphs, regular font size, the rollover menu on the left,
the
| >> banner, and a small photo of me in the top border.
| >>
| >>
| >> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
| >> news:e21ue1$4o51@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
| >> | Hi, Anthony,
| >> |
| >> | Fusion's not a perfect program by any means, but when I read posts
like
| >> | yours, I can't help but feel it's 'operator error' - and please don't
| >> take
| >> | that the wrong way. I've been using Fusion for about 9 years, I
guess,
| >> and
| >> | I can't even remember the last time it crashed for any reason. So I
| >> guess
| >> | what I'm wondering is if you've tried to take things step by step -
| >> saving
| >> | templates as you go - and seeing what exactly is causing the
crashes -
| > ...
| >
| >
|
|

[LWD]

Something else just occurred to me since you're new to Fusion, Anthony.

A lot of new Fusion users confuse frames with Master Borders.

You can have
* frames without master borders
* master borders without frames, and
* master borders which are frames.

Additionally, the term 'master border' is a bit confusing.

The name would seem to imply that a 'master border' has to go all the way
through a site. But, in fact, a site can have as many 'master borders' as a
designer wants - e.g., a 'master border' for 'Work', a 'master border' for
'My New House', a 'master border' for 'Friends', one for 'Family' etc. You
can put match any master border to any page and change it at any time.

Think of 'master borders' as 'repeated elements' - which, in Fusion's case,
work on the four borders of a page, if you want, though you can have just
one side of a page be a master border.

Lucian


"Pop" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:e23446$7nb3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>I know I wasn't invited to this thread and probably should only post
>apologetically, but ...
>
> FWIW, the "too large" is caused, apparently, by something going wrong with
> the Master Border. Changing the Master Border will usually, so far
> anyway, fix that situation. I had it happen to me when I had to recover a
> site from my server. First set the MB to zero margins, and then Add a new
> master border to use, and it worked fine. I also managed to repair the
> original master border that caused the problem, but I've forgotten right
> now how I did it.
>
> <RANT>
> IMO version 8 & 9 have gone "buggy", thus I've stayed with 7 because
> besides being the version I started with, perusing all of the ng's for 7
> thru 9. 7 appears by far the most stable. Luckily, the archives are
> retained, so I've been gratefulto have them. As much as I like Fusion,
> and agree that their db concept is a good one, I will not yet upgrade just
> because of the types of message contents in those groups.
> IMO it's unacceptable to say "Don't use Photo Gallery; use this other
> one instead." I -might- agree if this were a $40 app, but it's not. Even
> the upgrade prices are preposterously high, IMO. Therefore, it has to
> work as advertised. Considering the cost, Fusion is more than required to
> do what it says it does. Excuses without fixes forthcoming for free, are
> totally and completely unacceptable and not a way to do business.
> And I'll "neglect to mention" the initial fraud pulled on me with my
> first phoney "fully functional" and "free" version of Fusion 7, a "$149
> value" which couldn't be updated and couldn't be used to upgrade! Nor
> will I mention how, when trying to update or upgrade it, the program and
> the web site blamed everything but reality for WHY the upgrade/update
> failed to recognize my version.
> Yes, that caused me great frustration but I did like the app, and WSP
> finally let me have a copy of the "real" Fusion 7 for $40,but it's not
> something I will soon forget about, e.g. the bait & switch routine.
> UNfortunately I DO really like Fusion 7 (with its updates).
> </rant>
> "!
> For those reasons, I will, instead of upgrading, move to another
> application if/when I need more than version 7 can provide. IMO the app
> has reached a complexity beyond the ability of WSP et al to properly test,
> starting at Version 8, and yet continues to raise the cost with each
> succeeding rev.
>
> Perhaps this answers some questions for the OP. Watch the post not make
> it to the board now.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pop
>
>
> "Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e22018$4o52@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> Thanks for the suggestions. It's NOT operator error. I'm doing nothing
>> outside of creating pages and adding objects. I'm not advanced when it
>> comes
>> to web authoring. I frequently test and save when I know things are
>> working. The problem is going back to the project at a later time
>> produces
>> corrupted objects that get deleted. All Links being lost in menu boxes,
>> photos disappearing, objects suddenly being corrupted, etc.
>>
>> I tested again, and I now know for a fact, that after setting up a
>> gallery,
>> then going back in and changing the frame style is what caused all the
>> full
>> sized pictures to disappear. I tried it with the one good gallery page
>> that
>> remained, and went page by page in the album view, and all I saw was the
>> thumbnails instead of the full sized photos. I had hoped to use the
>> internal gallery creator so I could keep a consistent look across all my
>> pages.
>>
>> As for posting something, that's just it... I have NOTHING to post,
>> because
>> 3 times already I have lost what I've done.
>>
>> I uploaded my old Website, created with Front Page 98 to my webserver
>> www.chippeweb.com. This is basically what I want to do, with all those
>> photos, and more,and a few other things. FP was SO easy to work with, and
>> I
>> never had any of the problems I have here. However, with all the changes
>> MS
>> has made to IE the stuff I created with FP is next to useless.
>>
>> Perhaps it IS the photo galleries that's the problem, as that is what has
>> been giving me the most grief. However, what would I have possibly done
>> to
>> make Fusion refuse to open my Home Page for editing, greeting me with a
>> "page too large" error and telling me to open it in Win NT4? Publishing
>> the
>> site locally showed no sign of large fonts in the home page. There were
>> only
>> 2 text paragraphs, regular font size, the rollover menu on the left, the
>> banner, and a small photo of me in the top border.
>>
>>
>> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
>> news:e21ue1$4o51@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>> | Hi, Anthony,
>> |
>> | Fusion's not a perfect program by any means, but when I read posts like
>> | yours, I can't help but feel it's 'operator error' - and please don't
>> take
>> | that the wrong way. I've been using Fusion for about 9 years, I guess,
>> and
>> | I can't even remember the last time it crashed for any reason. So I
>> guess
>> | what I'm wondering is if you've tried to take things step by step -
>> saving
>> | templates as you go - and seeing what exactly is causing the crashes -
> ...
>
>

[Nancy O]

Hi Anthony,
Welcome to the NOF newsgroup. I agree with Chuck and Lucian but would also
add this:

Optimize those family photos in Photoshop or some other photo editing
program BEFORE inserting images into NOF. No web design program can handle
huge (5-8 megapixel) image libraries. Full size Photo Gallery images should
be compressed into 30-50 kb jpgs before you bring them into NOF, otherwise
you are inviting disaster.

Best of luck on your project,

--Nancy


"Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e219ae$3g51@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> Not to put anything down, as all software has bugs - but some of the
> problems I have seen in the 2 days I have used it are amazing.
>
> I need help .... OR A REFUND! (I have already requested one).
>
>
> 1) I spent about 2 hours getting my website together (a personal web
site).
> The main focus will be photos of family / friends. Anyway, after 2 hours
of
> work, and about 4 or 5 pages completed, I tried to open the project again
> and am greeted with a message that invalid objects were found and would be
> removed. I was told the operation was successful. The website was useless
> after this. I had to start ALL OVER AGAIN.
>
> 2) By this time, I was a bit more comfortable and was able to recreate the
> lost pages a bit more quickly. I tried to change some settings (I forget
> where), and the program just lost focus, like there was a hidden dialog
box
> somewhere, but none was visible, nothing in the task manager, no button on
> the task bar. I couldn't click on anything in the window. When I tried to
> click anywhere in the Fusion window I would get an error beep and the
window
> border would flash (exactly what happens when a dialog box is displayed
and
> you try to click outside the dialog). I had to kill Fusion.
>
> 3) On next restart, I received a message that the site was corrupt and a
> backup would be restored. It seemed to restore fine. By this time, I had
> about 30 incomplete pages in the website. I then discovered that a menu
drop
> list I created with 25 items lost ALL the URLs I had pasted in. The text
> labels were still there, but the URL boxes were blank. I had to go again,
> and click, ONE BY ONE, then reposition the properties window to get to the
> next item, on and on, for all 25 links.
>
> 4) I fixed that and saved the project. Then, when I tried to go to my home
> page to edit it, it would not let me open the home page. It said the page
> was too large and I needed to resize fonts in the associated style, OR
open
> it up in Windows NT 4 (HUH??????). The home page only had the usual
> rollover links in the border area and 2 paragraphs of text, and a small
> picture. Funny - I could publish the site, and the home page was fine -
no
> large fonts, and the home page was only 1K in size. So, I had to create a
> new page, then drag it above the home page to make that my NEW home page,
> then delete the old home page.
>
> 5) This one really IRKS me to no end... I have created many photo gallery
> pages, and have completed 4 pages so far. When I created the pages, I
> resized the bottom border to just below the bottom of the thumbnails grid.
> However, Fusion INSISTS on creating A LOT of empty space after the end of
> the thumbnails. I have links in the bottom border of these pages, so one
> would need to scroll all the way down to get to those links. No matter
how
> many times I resize the height of the page, it always reverts to the big
> empty space. If I resize the page, then preview the page, the blank space
is
> gone - until I view the page in the editor again. Why does it do this???
> And how do I get rid of the empty space?
>
> I have WinXP home - all updates (NOT IE 7), 3GB DDR RAM, 1 TB HD space (on
2
> physical drives) about 600GB free space on drives. I would think the
> software would behave better than this.
>
> Any comments/suggestions/criticisms welcomed. Thank you.
>
>
>
>
>

[LWD]

Hi, Anthony,

Well, I mentioned frames because your FrontPage site has them and I've found
that new Fusion users are often confused about master borders.

If you upload a few pages, just put five or six images on them. They'll be
enough for us to get an idea what's going on.

Lucian

"Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e2473f$csp5@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
>I wasn't using frames - I added a few items to the MasterBorder , and even
> made a copy of the MasterBorder so I can change some objects on certain
> pages.
>
> I am going to rebuild a few of the pages and post them so I can show you
> what I am trying to accomplish.
>
> I appreciate all the effort everyone is extending to help me out. Thanks
> to
> everyone.
>
> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
> news:e23hep$8sk4@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> | Something else just occurred to me since you're new to Fusion, Anthony.
> |
> | A lot of new Fusion users confuse frames with Master Borders.
> |
> | You can have
> | * frames without master borders
> | * master borders without frames, and
> | * master borders which are frames.
> |
> | Additionally, the term 'master border' is a bit confusing.
> |
> | The name would seem to imply that a 'master border' has to go all the
> way
> | through a site. But, in fact, a site can have as many 'master borders'
> as
> a
> | designer wants - e.g., a 'master border' for 'Work', a 'master border'
> for
> | 'My New House', a 'master border' for 'Friends', one for 'Family' etc.
> You
> | can put match any master border to any page and change it at any time.
> |
> | Think of 'master borders' as 'repeated elements' - which, in Fusion's
> case,
> | work on the four borders of a page, if you want, though you can have
> just
> | one side of a page be a master border.
> |
> | Lucian
> |
> |
> | "Pop" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
> | news:e23446$7nb3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> | >I know I wasn't invited to this thread and probably should only post
> | >apologetically, but ...
> | >
> | > FWIW, the "too large" is caused, apparently, by something going wrong
> with
> | > the Master Border. Changing the Master Border will usually, so far
> | > anyway, fix that situation. I had it happen to me when I had to
> recover
> a
> | > site from my server. First set the MB to zero margins, and then Add a
> new
> | > master border to use, and it worked fine. I also managed to repair
> the
> | > original master border that caused the problem, but I've forgotten
> right
> | > now how I did it.
> | >
> | > <RANT>
> | > IMO version 8 & 9 have gone "buggy", thus I've stayed with 7 because
> | > besides being the version I started with, perusing all of the ng's for
> 7
> | > thru 9. 7 appears by far the most stable. Luckily, the archives are
> | > retained, so I've been gratefulto have them. As much as I like
> Fusion,
> | > and agree that their db concept is a good one, I will not yet upgrade
> just
> | > because of the types of message contents in those groups.
> | > IMO it's unacceptable to say "Don't use Photo Gallery; use this
> other
> | > one instead." I -might- agree if this were a $40 app, but it's not.
> Even
> | > the upgrade prices are preposterously high, IMO. Therefore, it has to
> | > work as advertised. Considering the cost, Fusion is more than
> required
> to
> | > do what it says it does. Excuses without fixes forthcoming for free,
> are
> | > totally and completely unacceptable and not a way to do business.
> | > And I'll "neglect to mention" the initial fraud pulled on me with my
> | > first phoney "fully functional" and "free" version of Fusion 7, a
> "$149
> | > value" which couldn't be updated and couldn't be used to upgrade! Nor
> | > will I mention how, when trying to update or upgrade it, the program
> and
> | > the web site blamed everything but reality for WHY the upgrade/update
> | > failed to recognize my version.
> | > Yes, that caused me great frustration but I did like the app, and
> WSP
> | > finally let me have a copy of the "real" Fusion 7 for $40,but it's not
> | > something I will soon forget about, e.g. the bait & switch routine.
> | > UNfortunately I DO really like Fusion 7 (with its updates).
> | > </rant>
> | > "!
> | > For those reasons, I will, instead of upgrading, move to another
> | > application if/when I need more than version 7 can provide. IMO the
> app
> | > has reached a complexity beyond the ability of WSP et al to properly
> test,
> | > starting at Version 8, and yet continues to raise the cost with each
> | > succeeding rev.
> | >
> | > Perhaps this answers some questions for the OP. Watch the post not
> make
> | > it to the board now.
> | >
> | > Regards,
> | >
> | > Pop
> | >
> | >
> | > "Anthony" <chippe01NOSPAMNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > news:e22018$4o52@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> | >> Thanks for the suggestions. It's NOT operator error. I'm doing
> nothing
> | >> outside of creating pages and adding objects. I'm not advanced when
> it
> | >> comes
> | >> to web authoring. I frequently test and save when I know things are
> | >> working. The problem is going back to the project at a later time
> | >> produces
> | >> corrupted objects that get deleted. All Links being lost in menu
> boxes,
> | >> photos disappearing, objects suddenly being corrupted, etc.
> | >>
> | >> I tested again, and I now know for a fact, that after setting up a
> | >> gallery,
> | >> then going back in and changing the frame style is what caused all
> the
> | >> full
> | >> sized pictures to disappear. I tried it with the one good gallery
> page
> | >> that
> | >> remained, and went page by page in the album view, and all I saw was
> the
> | >> thumbnails instead of the full sized photos. I had hoped to use the
> | >> internal gallery creator so I could keep a consistent look across all
> my
> | >> pages.
> | >>
> | >> As for posting something, that's just it... I have NOTHING to post,
> | >> because
> | >> 3 times already I have lost what I've done.
> | >>
> | >> I uploaded my old Website, created with Front Page 98 to my webserver
> | >> www.chippeweb.com. This is basically what I want to do, with all
> those
> | >> photos, and more,and a few other things. FP was SO easy to work with,
> and
> | >> I
> | >> never had any of the problems I have here. However, with all the
> changes
> | >> MS
> | >> has made to IE the stuff I created with FP is next to useless.
> | >>
> | >> Perhaps it IS the photo galleries that's the problem, as that is what
> has
> | >> been giving me the most grief. However, what would I have possibly
> done
> | >> to
> | >> make Fusion refuse to open my Home Page for editing, greeting me with
> a
> | >> "page too large" error and telling me to open it in Win NT4?
> Publishing
> | >> the
> | >> site locally showed no sign of large fonts in the home page. There
> were
> | >> only
> | >> 2 text paragraphs, regular font size, the rollover menu on the left,
> the
> | >> banner, and a small photo of me in the top border.
> | >>
> | >>
> | >> "LWD" <**lucdix**@**jam**dot*rr**dot**com> wrote in message
> | >> news:e21ue1$4o51@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
> | >> | Hi, Anthony,
> | >> |
> | >> | Fusion's not a perfect program by any means, but when I read posts
> like
> | >> | yours, I can't help but feel it's 'operator error' - and please
> don't
> | >> take
> | >> | that the wrong way. I've been using Fusion for about 9 years, I
> guess,
> | >> and
> | >> | I can't even remember the last time it crashed for any reason. So
> I
> | >> guess
> | >> | what I'm wondering is if you've tried to take things step by step -
> | >> saving
> | >> | templates as you go - and seeing what exactly is causing the
> crashes -
> | > ...
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
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