OT: PDF ads, which programs?

[Derek]

Allison Moore wrote:
>> I used that before we had Wordstar...
>
> My first word processor was Easy Writer. Ran on an Apple II (that was
> really a lemon). Then taught myself WordStar from a v2 programming
> manual. That was pre-DOS. WordStar was a workhorse.
>
> Never used a Trash-80. :-)
>
> Allison
>
>

Yup, Wordstar was pretty hoopy. WordPerfect was a bit of a revelation
when it came along, I still have a soft spot for it (GUIs? Who needs
'em!). IBM Displaywriter somewhere along the line too...

TRS-80 was spawn of the devil in our neck of the woods <g>

[Charles Edmonds]

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:41:31 +0000, Derek wrote:

> Various laser printers, including the early Apple Laserwriter; I worked
> for a PC dealer, so we had various bits to play with over time. Best fun
> was getting hooked up to a Linotronic 100 for a local design / print
> bureau. I can still remember the scorched fingers from soldering
> different cable configurations...

I can relate to that too.

I think I still have a 100 light break out box (for RS232) around here
somewhere along with at least 100 DB25/DB9 setups<g>

:-)

Charles


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[Derek]

> I had an English made computer called a Tano Dragon that was compatible
> with it... BUT it also had GWBASIC on a ROM so one could do some "real"
> programming...
>

Whoa, steady there Charles, you'll start a fight - the Dragon was made
in Wales!

I did a bit of Googling; apparently you can pick up a brand-new (i.e.
unsold / unused) Dragon 64 for $45 here:

http://www.cadigital.com/computer.htm

Derek

[Charles Edmonds]

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:52:22 +0000, Derek wrote:

> Whoa, steady there Charles, you'll start a fight - the Dragon was made
> in Wales!

Well that could be (since that is where our ancestry comes from<g>).

We were importing it from a distributor in England ... my bad.


> I did a bit of Googling; apparently you can pick up a brand-new (i.e.
> unsold / unused) Dragon 64 for $45 here:
>
> http://www.cadigital.com/computer.htm

Cool - I might have to get one<g>.

I actually started with a Commodore VIC-20 and made the full swing of
things, Apples, CPM machines, the Dragon of course, then on to the PC
clones (Sanyo MBC-550/555) and right on down the line.

:-)

Charles


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[MoiInAust]

"Charles Edmonds" <cje_ByteMeSpammers_@lansrad.com> wrote in message
news:1gvgkg97xr1h5$.nylvnu80lyam$.dlg@40tude.net.. .
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:41:31 +0000, Derek wrote:
>
>> Various laser printers, including the early Apple Laserwriter; I worked
>> for a PC dealer, so we had various bits to play with over time. Best fun
>> was getting hooked up to a Linotronic 100 for a local design / print
>> bureau. I can still remember the scorched fingers from soldering
>> different cable configurations...
>
> I can relate to that too.
>
> I think I still have a 100 light break out box (for RS232) around here
> somewhere along with at least 100 DB25/DB9 setups<g>

Not to be outdone, it takes long time to convert ASCII to binary character
by character and then to key it in to a PDP8....

[Charles Edmonds]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:33:11 +1100, MoiInAust wrote:

> Not to be outdone, it takes long time to convert ASCII to binary character
> by character and then to key it in to a PDP8....

True<g>

I never worked with an 8, but did the PDP11...

:-)

Charles

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[MoiInAust]

"Charles Edmonds" <cje_ByteMeSpammers_@lansrad.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:33:11 +1100, MoiInAust wrote:
>
>> Not to be outdone, it takes long time to convert ASCII to binary
>> character
>> by character and then to key it in to a PDP8....
>
> True<g>
>
> I never worked with an 8, but did the PDP11...

Newbie!

[Charles Edmonds]

On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:21:14 +1100, MoiInAust wrote:

>> I never worked with an 8, but did the PDP11...
>
> Newbie!

On that platform<g>

:-)

Charles


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[Allison Moore]

> Yup, Wordstar was pretty hoopy. WordPerfect was a bit of a revelation
> when it came along,

Yikes, WordPerfect. Now that's devil spawn in my eyes. I've tried many
times and many versions, and I've never been able to wrap my head around
WordPerfect. I just don't process information that way.

My sister doesn't either. She learned word processing on WordPerfect.
Even though she's extremely bright and used it frequently, it took her
years to remember the command structure. OTOH, I set her down in front
of WordStar one day while she was visiting and quickly showed her
WordStar's command structure. She picked it up instantly and had her
document done in minutes. And when she was doing multi-language stuff,
she found she could get more done and more easily in Nota Bene than in
WordPerfect. Nota Bene had a command structure that was very similar to
WordStar's.

And yeah, the TRS-80 was also considered devil spawn in our office.

Allison

[Allison Moore]

> I was going to guess. <g> I thought I recognized you from the VP
> newsgroup.

Yup, that's me. <g>

Allison