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  1. #1
    dwolf
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    Default Site map options

    I hope you all... don't feel like asking many questions is taking advantage
    or just a pain.. This group is one of the things that made using this
    program for so many years so great.

    I did a site map that NOF generates... Is there a feature that can create a
    non java site map.. just another page that gives links to all my pages.. and
    I'm sure Google wouldn't mind looking at that page too.. !!

    joel



  2. #2
    Chuck «BeyondFusion»
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    Default Re: Site map options

    Joel,

    Have you seen this free component for Fusion?

    http://www.toedter.com/en/htmlsitemap.html

    Works well. Generates an HTML site map.

    --
    Chuck Joslin
    BeyondFusion.com - Your Fusion Community
    www.beyondfusion.com

    Register domain names at www.awavedomains.com

    "dwolf" <jojodwolfnospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:erq179$aao9@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >I hope you all... don't feel like asking many questions is taking advantage
    >or just a pain.. This group is one of the things that made using this
    >program for so many years so great.
    >
    > I did a site map that NOF generates... Is there a feature that can create
    > a non java site map.. just another page that gives links to all my pages..
    > and I'm sure Google wouldn't mind looking at that page too.. !!
    >
    > joel
    >




  3. #3
    dwolf
    Guest

    Default Re: Site map options

    So do you think the sitemap does anything for web placement.. especially the
    java version... It certainly does not see like a tool a visitor would get
    much use from except maybe the search feature...
    "Chuck «BeyondFusion»" <supportno@spambeyondfusion.com> wrote in message
    news:erqhbb$ckf2@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > That's just a collection of links.
    >
    > Not a site map, per se.
    >
    > Yes, you'd have to build that manually.
    >
    > --
    > Chuck Joslin
    > BeyondFusion.com - Your Fusion Community
    > www.beyondfusion.com
    >
    > Register domain names at www.awavedomains.com
    >
    > "dwolf" <jojodwolfnospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:erqgr1$ckf1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> Thanks ... I gave it a try.. I might use it. I was thinking of something
    >> more like this
    >> http://www.decodame.com/site_map.htm
    >>
    >> Maybe that one I will just have to build myself
    >>
    >>
    >> "Chuck «BeyondFusion»" <supportno@spambeyondfusion.com> wrote in message
    >> news:erq4ec$b1b3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >>> Joel,
    >>>
    >>> Have you seen this free component for Fusion?
    >>>
    >>> http://www.toedter.com/en/htmlsitemap.html
    >>>
    >>> Works well. Generates an HTML site map.
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Chuck Joslin
    >>> BeyondFusion.com - Your Fusion Community
    >>> www.beyondfusion.com
    >>>
    >>> Register domain names at www.awavedomains.com
    >>>
    >>> "dwolf" <jojodwolfnospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:erq179$aao9@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >>>>I hope you all... don't feel like asking many questions is taking
    >>>>advantage or just a pain.. This group is one of the things that made
    >>>>using this program for so many years so great.
    >>>>
    >>>> I did a site map that NOF generates... Is there a feature that can
    >>>> create a non java site map.. just another page that gives links to all
    >>>> my pages.. and I'm sure Google wouldn't mind looking at that page too..
    >>>> !!
    >>>>
    >>>> joel
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >




  4. #4
    Chuck «BeyondFusion»
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    Default Re: Site map options

    Most sites should probably have a site map page. Useful for search engines,
    to be sure.

    The one you're using that's the Java component doe nothing really useful, as
    far as I'm concerned. I've never used it.

    I've used the one I told you about or build one using the site map tool in
    AllWebMenus on sites I use it to make menus for.

    --
    Chuck Joslin
    BeyondFusion.com - Your Fusion Community
    www.beyondfusion.com

    Register domain names at www.awavedomains.com

    "dwolf" <jojodwolfnospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:erqipt$d8d1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > So do you think the sitemap does anything for web placement.. especially
    > the java version... It certainly does not see like a tool a visitor would
    > get much use from except maybe the search feature...
    > "Chuck «BeyondFusion»" <supportno@spambeyondfusion.com> wrote in message
    > news:erqhbb$ckf2@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> That's just a collection of links.
    >>
    >> Not a site map, per se.
    >>
    >> Yes, you'd have to build that manually.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Chuck Joslin
    >> BeyondFusion.com - Your Fusion Community
    >> www.beyondfusion.com
    >>
    >> Register domain names at www.awavedomains.com
    >>
    >> "dwolf" <jojodwolfnospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:erqgr1$ckf1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >>> Thanks ... I gave it a try.. I might use it. I was thinking of something
    >>> more like this
    >>> http://www.decodame.com/site_map.htm
    >>>
    >>> Maybe that one I will just have to build myself
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Chuck «BeyondFusion»" <supportno@spambeyondfusion.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:erq4ec$b1b3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >>>> Joel,
    >>>>
    >>>> Have you seen this free component for Fusion?
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.toedter.com/en/htmlsitemap.html
    >>>>
    >>>> Works well. Generates an HTML site map.
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> Chuck Joslin
    >>>> BeyondFusion.com - Your Fusion Community
    >>>> www.beyondfusion.com
    >>>>
    >>>> Register domain names at www.awavedomains.com
    >>>>
    >>>> "dwolf" <jojodwolfnospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:erq179$aao9@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >>>>>I hope you all... don't feel like asking many questions is taking
    >>>>>advantage or just a pain.. This group is one of the things that made
    >>>>>using this program for so many years so great.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I did a site map that NOF generates... Is there a feature that can
    >>>>> create a non java site map.. just another page that gives links to all
    >>>>> my pages.. and I'm sure Google wouldn't mind looking at that page
    >>>>> too.. !!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> joel
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >




  5. #5
    dwolf
    Guest

    Default Re: Site map options

    Thanks ... I gave it a try.. I might use it. I was thinking of something
    more like this
    http://www.decodame.com/site_map.htm

    Maybe that one I will just have to build myself


    "Chuck «BeyondFusion»" <supportno@spambeyondfusion.com> wrote in message
    news:erq4ec$b1b3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > Joel,
    >
    > Have you seen this free component for Fusion?
    >
    > http://www.toedter.com/en/htmlsitemap.html
    >
    > Works well. Generates an HTML site map.
    >
    > --
    > Chuck Joslin
    > BeyondFusion.com - Your Fusion Community
    > www.beyondfusion.com
    >
    > Register domain names at www.awavedomains.com
    >
    > "dwolf" <jojodwolfnospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:erq179$aao9@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >>I hope you all... don't feel like asking many questions is taking
    >>advantage or just a pain.. This group is one of the things that made using
    >>this program for so many years so great.
    >>
    >> I did a site map that NOF generates... Is there a feature that can create
    >> a non java site map.. just another page that gives links to all my
    >> pages.. and I'm sure Google wouldn't mind looking at that page too.. !!
    >>
    >> joel
    >>

    >
    >




  6. #6
    Chuck «BeyondFusion»
    Guest

    Default Re: Site map options

    That's just a collection of links.

    Not a site map, per se.

    Yes, you'd have to build that manually.

    --
    Chuck Joslin
    BeyondFusion.com - Your Fusion Community
    www.beyondfusion.com

    Register domain names at www.awavedomains.com

    "dwolf" <jojodwolfnospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:erqgr1$ckf1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > Thanks ... I gave it a try.. I might use it. I was thinking of something
    > more like this
    > http://www.decodame.com/site_map.htm
    >
    > Maybe that one I will just have to build myself
    >
    >
    > "Chuck «BeyondFusion»" <supportno@spambeyondfusion.com> wrote in message
    > news:erq4ec$b1b3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> Joel,
    >>
    >> Have you seen this free component for Fusion?
    >>
    >> http://www.toedter.com/en/htmlsitemap.html
    >>
    >> Works well. Generates an HTML site map.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Chuck Joslin
    >> BeyondFusion.com - Your Fusion Community
    >> www.beyondfusion.com
    >>
    >> Register domain names at www.awavedomains.com
    >>
    >> "dwolf" <jojodwolfnospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:erq179$aao9@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >>>I hope you all... don't feel like asking many questions is taking
    >>>advantage or just a pain.. This group is one of the things that made
    >>>using this program for so many years so great.
    >>>
    >>> I did a site map that NOF generates... Is there a feature that can
    >>> create a non java site map.. just another page that gives links to all
    >>> my pages.. and I'm sure Google wouldn't mind looking at that page too..
    >>> !!
    >>>
    >>> joel
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >




  7. #7
    Kathy
    Guest

    Default Re: Site map options

    Hi Laurence
    Re: the comment on giving "precedence" to sites that submit to Google (
    sitemap) Not quite what I meant to infer. My understanding is that by
    submitting a site to Google helps robots to indexed your site ? Making a
    site more Google "friendly". A sitemap is extra information to have about
    your site, its not required nor does it override the information found
    through crawling the internet. The value of submitting ensures that new
    and changed URLs get into the index as fast as possible and also pages
    with content that might attract only a few users .
    A site map ( on the site) enhances the useability of a website. --- Kathy













    "LBA" <webdesigns@no2spamabramsnet.com> wrote in message
    news:erv7fs$t653@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > Kathy wrote:
    >> <snip>Submitting a sitemap to Google is important for web
    >> placement.<snip>

    > I'm curious about that comment. Since inception, search engines have
    > developed the art of spidering in order to follow all links on a site.
    > Without that, search engines would not find most site content and
    > therefore would not develop an accurate view of what's out there.
    > Relevance and accuracy being their primary criteria, this has always been
    > essential to the survival of Google and Yahoo and all the rest. So,
    > seeking nothing but an accurate picture of the web, why would search
    > engines overlook easily spidered content by giving precedence to sites
    > that submitted a sitemap to them?
    >
    > Laurence




  8. #8
    Kathy
    Guest

    Default Re: Site map options

    Submitting a sitemap to Google is important for web placement. ( this is not
    the same as having a sitemap displayed on your site) Having a website map is
    a useful tool & anything that makes a site userfriendly is good.

    Kathy
    "dwolf" <jojodwolfnospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:erqipt$d8d1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    > So do you think the sitemap does anything for web placement.. especially
    > the java version... It certainly does not see like a tool a visitor would
    > get much use from except maybe the search feature...
    > "Chuck «BeyondFusion»" <supportno@spambeyondfusion.com> wrote in message
    > news:erqhbb$ckf2@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >> That's just a collection of links.
    >>
    >> Not a site map, per se.
    >>
    >> Yes, you'd have to build that manually.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Chuck Joslin
    >> BeyondFusion.com - Your Fusion Community
    >> www.beyondfusion.com
    >>
    >> Register domain names at www.awavedomains.com
    >>
    >> "dwolf" <jojodwolfnospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:erqgr1$ckf1@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >>> Thanks ... I gave it a try.. I might use it. I was thinking of something
    >>> more like this
    >>> http://www.decodame.com/site_map.htm
    >>>
    >>> Maybe that one I will just have to build myself
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Chuck «BeyondFusion»" <supportno@spambeyondfusion.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:erq4ec$b1b3@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >>>> Joel,
    >>>>
    >>>> Have you seen this free component for Fusion?
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.toedter.com/en/htmlsitemap.html
    >>>>
    >>>> Works well. Generates an HTML site map.
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> Chuck Joslin
    >>>> BeyondFusion.com - Your Fusion Community
    >>>> www.beyondfusion.com
    >>>>
    >>>> Register domain names at www.awavedomains.com
    >>>>
    >>>> "dwolf" <jojodwolfnospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:erq179$aao9@flsun90netnews01.netobjects.com.. .
    >>>>>I hope you all... don't feel like asking many questions is taking
    >>>>>advantage or just a pain.. This group is one of the things that made
    >>>>>using this program for so many years so great.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I did a site map that NOF generates... Is there a feature that can
    >>>>> create a non java site map.. just another page that gives links to all
    >>>>> my pages.. and I'm sure Google wouldn't mind looking at that page
    >>>>> too.. !!
    >>>>>
    >>>>> joel
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >




  9. #9
    LBA
    Guest

    Default Re: Site map options

    Kathy wrote:
    > <snip>Submitting a sitemap to Google is important for web placement.<snip>

    I'm curious about that comment. Since inception, search engines have
    developed the art of spidering in order to follow all links on a site.
    Without that, search engines would not find most site content and
    therefore would not develop an accurate view of what's out there.
    Relevance and accuracy being their primary criteria, this has always
    been essential to the survival of Google and Yahoo and all the rest.
    So, seeking nothing but an accurate picture of the web, why would search
    engines overlook easily spidered content by giving precedence to sites
    that submitted a sitemap to them?

    Laurence

  10. #10
    Charles Edmonds
    Guest

    Default Re: Site map options

    On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:05:09 -0800, LBA wrote:

    >> <snip>Submitting a sitemap to Google is important for web placement.<snip>

    > I'm curious about that comment. Since inception, search engines have
    > developed the art of spidering in order to follow all links on a site.
    > Without that, search engines would not find most site content and
    > therefore would not develop an accurate view of what's out there.
    > Relevance and accuracy being their primary criteria, this has always
    > been essential to the survival of Google and Yahoo and all the rest.
    > So, seeking nothing but an accurate picture of the web, why would search
    > engines overlook easily spidered content by giving precedence to sites
    > that submitted a sitemap to them?


    Laurence,

    This statement is true - especially in the light of all the sites that use
    JavaScript and/or Flash Navigation.

    In general, Search Engines don't spider those links (as well as database
    driven sites where the links are dynamic and the length of the total
    parameter is VERY long.

    A good sitemap gives the Search Engines a clear direct path to EVERY page
    that has content that needs to be indexed on the site.

    It has the added benefit that there is no danger of a link being broken (or
    renamed) and the spider abandoning its indexing of a page because of that.

    It is one of the easiest things that can be done to ensure the proper
    indexing of a site.


    ;-)

    Charles




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