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    Greg C
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    Default Converting from HTML to CSS

    Hello,

    I have a fairly large website (45 pages, some quite long) that I started
    several years ago with NOF 7. The entire thing uses HTML markup, and I'm
    constantly struggling with formatting detials, like getting a hyperlink to
    be the right font size and color.

    I'm thinking that converting to CSS might make my life easier, but given my
    history with this product, I'm fearful that I'm going to get badly sliced if
    I try this.

    Have other people done this, and if so, what's been their experience? Did it
    work well for you?

    Thanks,

    Greg C



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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg C View Post
    Hello,

    I have a fairly large website (45 pages, some quite long) that I started
    several years ago with NOF 7. The entire thing uses HTML markup, and I'm
    constantly struggling with formatting detials, like getting a hyperlink to
    be the right font size and color.

    I'm thinking that converting to CSS might make my life easier, but given my
    history with this product, I'm fearful that I'm going to get badly sliced if
    I try this.

    Have other people done this, and if so, what's been their experience? Did it
    work well for you?

    Thanks,

    Greg C
    This tutorial will go over how you clear off all HTML formating

    http://www.gotfusion.com/tutorials/tut.cfm?itemID=4046

    Just make sure that you do not insert more in the future by using the properties palette to modify text. Always make a CSS class and apply that rather than changing color, size, font, etc. Every time you use the properties palette to change something, you re re-creating more inline HTML formating.

    There is no way to "disable" inline HTML formating other than to avoid creating it yourself.
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    Hi Greg,

    I've been in a similar position as this once or twice. The solution I used you may not like but long term you will see benefits.

    Basically it's re-build the entire site from scratch . Starting with a clean slate you can set up your CSS before you do anything else and test everything on a blank page before you start to build the 45 pages again. You get a clean NOF file and will probably find you get less crashes and other quirks that NOF throws up after a while.

    I recently went down this route with a 246 page site and another 65 page site and I can confirm that the NOF files were significantly smaller, faster to load and close, reduced crashes etc and generally an all round improvement.....but a real pain to do!
    Paul - Aditerum Ltd and AllSortsOfStuff Ltd
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    Greg C
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    Default Re: Converting from HTML to CSS

    Hi Paul,

    Thanks for explaining this approach. One otherquestion I have: I'm using V9
    right now. Iis it worth upgrading to V11, or is the maintenance version much
    the same?

    Thanks,

    Greg


    "Adendum" <Adendum.4ajm3n@no-mx.forums.netobjects.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > Hi Greg,
    >
    > I've been in a similar position as this once or twice. The solution I
    > used you may not like but long term you will see benefits.
    >
    > Basically it's re-build the entire site from scratch . Starting with
    > a clean slate you can set up your CSS before you do anything else and
    > test everything on a blank page before you start to build the 45 pages
    > again. You get a clean NOF file and will probably find you get less
    > crashes and other quirks that NOF throws up after a while.
    >
    > I recently went down this route with a 246 page site and another 65
    > page site and I can confirm that the NOF files were significantly
    > smaller, faster to load and close, reduced crashes etc and generally an
    > all round improvement.....but a real pain to do!
    >
    >
    >
    > Paul - Aditerum & Adendum
    > NOF11 (in Admin mode!); Vista Premium 64bit; AMD Phenom IIx4 945
    > Processor 3.00Ghz; 8.0Gb RAM




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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg C View Post
    Hi Paul,

    Thanks for explaining this approach. One otherquestion I have: I'm using V9
    right now. Iis it worth upgrading to V11, or is the maintenance version much
    the same?

    Thanks,

    Greg

    11 is a big improvement over older versions. You will be much happier with the new interface.

    They are offering it at 50% off again

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    Thanks for the recommendation, but why is it that the gotfusion.com website
    appears to have been generated by V7? (From looking at tags in the HTML?)

    Thanks,

    Greg


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    > Greg C wrote:
    >> Hi Paul,
    >>
    >> Thanks for explaining this approach. One otherquestion I have: I'm
    >> using V9
    >> right now. Iis it worth upgrading to V11, or is the maintenance version
    >> much
    >> the same?
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >>
    >> Greg
    >>

    >
    >
    > 11 is a big improvement over older versions. You will be much happier
    > with the new interface.
    >
    > They are offering it at 50% off again
    >
    > http://netobjects.com/icontact/20100430/
    >
    >
    >
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg C View Post
    Thanks for the recommendation, but why is it that the gotfusion.com website
    appears to have been generated by V7? (From looking at tags in the HTML?)

    Thanks,

    Greg
    There may be some older tutorials from when the web site started back in 2001 which have not been updated. I believe that there are still some MX and even version 5 tutorials somewhere (if you look deep enough). With over 1000 pages of content things can get lost

    The gotFusion web site is fully data driven. Tutorials are served by a master tutorial display page which was written in 2004 (one page displays over 400 tutorials). All content is added via an administration page using a web browser. Content entered this week is displayed in the single tutorial master display page.

    http://www.gotfusion.com/tutorials/tut.cfm?itemID=4061

    To answer your version 11 question, yes it is worth upgrading. Version 11 is a very nice improvement over the older products as far as work flow and ease of use.

    It is currently be offered at 50% off the normal price too (which makes it even nicer)

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