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    Question 404 errors - NOF prepopulates error pages?

    Hi, long time user of NOF, and I am considering upgrading, yet again.....

    I've looked around, but could find any documentation if NOF autocreates standard HTML error pages that are a must have for good website managment. As it stands now, I have to cludge one together, which breaks everytime I redesign my sites...

    So,

    A. Does ver 11 have this feature? My guess is no.

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    B. If not, does anyone have any good suggestions of how to build the pages so that the headers and footers are prepopulated, as well as the pages are properly named?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by WCguy View Post
    Hi, long time user of NOF, and I am considering upgrading, yet again.....
    Good timing. NetO is running a 50% off sale on the latest product

    http://netobjects.com/icontact/20100430/

    Quote Originally Posted by WCguy View Post
    I've looked around, but could find any documentation if NOF autocreates standard HTML error pages that are a must have for good website managment. As it stands now, I have to cludge one together, which breaks everytime I redesign my sites...

    So,

    A. Does ver 11 have this feature? My guess is no.

    and

    B. If not, does anyone have any good suggestions of how to build the pages so that the headers and footers are prepopulated, as well as the pages are properly named?

    Thanks
    Create a regular page for your 404 landing. Just make sure that it is not in the menu structure. You can use the custom option in the nav bar component to create a menu with only the pages you want to display see this tutorial for more details http://www.gotfusion.com/tutorials/tut.cfm?itemID=369

    You should be able to select this page from your hosting control panel so that all 404's go to that page

    Here is my hosting tutorial on how to set a 404 redirect (your host may be different, ask them if you cannot find it in your control panel)

    http://www.gotfusion.com/support/fla...cfm?itemID=437
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    however, $100 for a software package that was released in 2008, without any updates since, is a risky proposition at best. When's the next upgrade coming out, if ever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WCguy View Post
    however, $100 for a software package that was released in 2008, without any updates since, is a risky proposition at best. When's the next upgrade coming out, if ever?
    I thought you said you were a long time user of the product? You would only need to purchase the $55 upgrade not the full retail version.

    As far as age. I still use notepad and that came out in what.... 1985 or so?
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    I clicked the link and it said $100. I must have missed something....

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    and I use notepad ++, thank you.

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    still, two questions remain:

    1. Is there development on NOF? Yes or no

    2. I use two computers for my work. A desktop that is used by multiple employees, so they can update our websites, and my laptop so I can work on them from home. Does your license policy allow for two installations?

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    and here are my bonafides



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    Quote Originally Posted by WCguy View Post
    I clicked the link and it said $100. I must have missed something....
    there are 2 links

    One says Buy Full Version

    Other says Buy Upgrade

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    Quote Originally Posted by WCguy View Post
    still, two questions remain:

    1. Is there development on NOF? Yes or no
    No one is going to say what is in the pipe for any software company. It just doesn't happen that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by WCguy View Post
    2. I use two computers for my work. A desktop that is used by multiple employees, so they can update our websites, and my laptop so I can work on them from home.
    The product is not designed to be multi user. It is a single user product. If you are letting others work on a single site project you are just asking for trouble.

    NetO did have a product that was multi user (check in check out). It was called Team Fusion Authoring Server (I still have a copy of it sitting here). It was sold to another company (marketed as Merant Collage). I don't know if it is still available or not.

    If you need multi user capabilities you should be looking at other products that are designed for a multi user environment
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    well, when you are running a small business, and you are the boss, well, sometimes you go looking for trouble, and sometimes trouble goes looking for you.....
    :lol:

    Having a shared development platform would be cool, but all I'm doing is sharing the NOD on a drive. Takes care of collisions on development when u use sneakernet that way.

    And since I have probably more years of software development and design management than most users, your statement

    No one is going to say what is in the pipe for any software company. It just doesn't happen that way.
    is flat out wrong.

    Your two available options are:

    1. No - NOF is EOL(end of life), and we are not presently working on upgrades, patches, new versions or enhancements.

    As you may be well aware, the cost of $50 or even $200 is infinitesimal to the opportunity cost of hours, weeks, and months of staff training on a package. Not to mention the years of work that go into maintaining a website, if you are doing it on your own. Browsers change, Apache changes, php changes, google has new requirements for css and js serving, and being stuck on a platform that has zero chance of addressing these pressing issues, risks $$$$ that far exceed the cost of the software.

    2. Yes - NOF has a development team, and we are working on a release at some future time. It could come next week, next month, next year, two years from now, depends on how hard we work, but we are at least coding shit. Hey, things are going so badly, we might throw all the code out and start over from scratch, but yes we are coding.

    I really don't care about a when, because it is what it is, and you are correct about "freezing" purchases. But you're sadly mistaken to think users shouldn't care if their software platform is EOL or not. Because they do.

    I might feel comfortable in letting my staff continue on NOF knowing that at least we might be able to import in our old sites if a new version of NOF or a new app comes out from a "related" team. Otherwise, it might be time to migrate to a new platform, as painful and EXPENSIVE as that might be.

    Weirdly enough, NOF could enjoy a renaissance due to Google's new-found religion of site speed. NOF's creation of static HTML is not a bad thing, especially if you change your main page text often.

    I've spent the last week in the underbelly of google's site ranking algorithms, and I can guarantee you that google is not sitting still and are pushing for tighter and tighter code and they are enforcing that by rewarding sites with higher rankings that comply.

    So I'm currently running NOF 10, purchased way back in 07 and ignored the 11 launch due to the company confusion, which is water under the bridge. And we've limped along. With three websites that enjoy page ranks of 6 and top 3 placements in our key words. The sites are ugly, but they work.

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